BoJester

I wish you the very best of the holiday season, and hope that you do not judge all posters by the few radical types who seem determined to eliminate all opposing viewpoints from this forum. At least one angry fool declared that this forum was THEIR site and they wanted to drive others away.
What is interesting and obvious to all but the most mentally challenged is tht the name calling, personal attacks and denigration always come from the posters who yell the loudest about the very same.
Since I am unable to lower my intellect to even try to communicate with the very low IQ types, I choose to ignore most of their drivel, which is like the soap opera, bash Obama, bash liberals, bash the government, rush is right, teaparty is good, conservatives are smart etc.
Stay away for a week, you miss nothing, it is always the same old tired lie, same old tired story.

graham2252

Happy holidays to you and your family, and you are so right about empty wagons that only make noise. I did not believe it at first but I got pulled in by someone where I said things that were not nice and that gets nothing accomplished. Positive feedback seems to not come from the right unless it is their way or no way. I thought we could agree to disagree and move on with the issue and maybe come to an understanding about things that matter. But I learned a long time ago, "Those that matter, don't mind" and "those that mind, don't matter". From time to time I will give you a shout out and thanks for your insight.

BoJester

OK good, I am taking some vacation and will be away from the computer and the keyboard kommandos until after the New Year.
Again, wishing you a great holdiay and peace and tranquility if you decide to post.

graham2252

Well I not sure if will stay that long but I won't be on alot. So you have a happy New Year and enjoy your vacation. My wife and I run this not for profit organization so I have some things planed for the kids that will take most of my free time but I will check the pc once and a while.

Kirby

Getting used to this new (for me) site, so this is a test to see how it shows up. Will give it another shot after eyeballing result.

Kirby

Ok, think I have the general hang of this forum now. Ok, the "quote" thing didn't take, but this was supposed to be a response to Graham. I'll get it all down eventually.

I started back at the beginning and laboriously read every post especially between you and your adversary (De'voe -?). My guess is you are an older black guy who doesn't wish to see the changes this country has made. I can fully appreciate the painful past you have had, but if you want to truly get ahead of the game and actually accomplish things for your kids programs, learn to critically read. It took me some hard effort to get there myself, but the outcome made it worth it. You missed some very critically important points that you chose to ignore. Number one, white America v**ed Obama in not once but stupidly, twice. Number two, w****s by a large majority have been willing for decades to powerfully help and bend over backwards to help anyone desiring to shelve the h**e rhetoric and make big efforts to help themselves.

My experience is that the education as the Orientals have found out and proved is there for everyone, but b****s repeatedly sneer at it while jiving through school hallways of their schools despising everything except the bad boy image. Their parents back them, pay the consequences, and still rage against whitey as their problem. "Whitey" continues to cough up more money, grant worthless degrees to undeserving b****s, grasp desperately at more worthless programs, and try to make square pegs fit in round holes by spoon-feeding terribly unqualified b****s through college programs they have no business in.

On the other hand, you have b****s who work hard, study hard, shelve the bad boy crap, go to college, and make very successful names for themselves and great lives for their families. The choice is there. Take your pick, but quit blaming whitey and the few scraps of r****m that will always be there between both races.

R****m has always existed in EVERY culture, race, and nation on planet earth. White America didn't even begin to invent it but did generally practice it much more civilly than many predecessors including the black Africans who practiced ruthless s***eries upon their own, cannibalized, head-hunted, and ate their neighbors g*****ls. So, my point is, let's keep some honest and objective sense of perspective here.

Again, learn to read and OBJECTIVELY (shelve the feelings thing) and your life and work with kids will soar with success. I truly understand hard beginnings. It took me the first fifty years of my life to learn some very hard lessons. "Feelings" get in the way and destroy effective results. It's tough, but you will benefit enormously.

Mandela's own effectiveness and universal love by all was a tribute to his almost impossible ability to forgive, forget, and objectively move on. He became one of history's greatest of men beyond just what he accomplished in his own country.

There is never anything new in a painful life or its beginnings. Those same beginnings destroyed the first fifty years of my life. I made the decision to finally rid myself of letting a painful past determine my decisions and ability to make tough but sound decisions.

Any r****m left in America is minimal and practiced at least as heavily by b****s as by anyone. The politicians of both the Republican and Democrat parties are using tactics as old as the mountains and hills - race baiting. Keep the hatreds alive and use it to garner v**es while giving lip service to real results.

The terms Liberal and Progressive are merely the shape-shifting tactics used by the c*******ts of old. Make a bad name for yourself and then simply change your label and tactical warfare. The "cold war" is truly over, but the Marxists are alive and well. Reading Obama's own book and all of his history is extremely informative for anyone who knows how to think for himself. He is a Muslim with legions of Marxists as mentors and friends. He's using the tactics of Saul Alinsky (Rules of Engagement) and another mentor/friend Francis Fox Piven (Cloward-Piven) flawlessly and playing millions for the dupes they are. He's a proven homosexual who's ex-gay friends from his college and post college years mysteriously died under very questionable circumstances just before entering into the p**********l race. He has almost zero qualifications as a politician prior to the 2008 p**********l run. Learn to truly think and ask yourself how such a man who has also played the Chicago thug political game flawlessly ever got into the game.

The answer is that he like all of our presidents of the past 30 to 40 years are hand selected by a group called the CFR with heavy influence from the Tri-Lateral Commission. Do yourself a favor - all of you so-called "Liberals" or wh**ever other populist label you choose, and do some honest research of your own. Set aside your little play books and C*******t Manifesto manuals, do the research on your own, and make your own conclusions. Politics has become extremely dangerous with some very powerful players pulling the strings behind the scenes. It's comically simple to trot out lip service to popular causes. The sheeple fall for the most moronic and heavily orchestrated games you can imagine. It's so easy to manipulate the trashing of names without any real factual content and the Democrat/l*****t/Libs and their lackey pretenders the Republicans are playing you all like finely tuned fiddles.

"Obamacare" is not "law". It was rammed down our throats by several illegal and unconstitutional means by lying thugs who couldn't care less about the poor. The real purpose is absolute and dictatorial power. Obama clearly lied through his teeth on so many major points it isn't funny, but few of you care beyond the stupid lip service he gives to the poor and under-insured. Insurance rates have gone up just as they knew they would. Hundreds of thousands have lost their insurance just as they knew they would and tens of millions more will lose it within a year. The insurance companies though as greedy as claimed are not at fault. You've worn out using Bush as your patsy, but not to worry, there are plenty of scapegoats to go around. Obama can go on blaming everyone but himself, but the plan wasn't for it to work in the first place.

READ everything you can get your hands on, and relearn how to think on your own. Everyone set aside your little party manuals and start from scratch. Our nation is going down and the blame is going to fly everywhere but where it belongs - first of all to the American people who let themselves fall into ignorance and then be spoon-fed some of the most ridiculous lies any population in history has bought into.

I know, I'm a r****t, bigoted, etc., but for the record, there are some dynamite b****s out there who would make incredible presidents. I would v**e for any one of them at the drop of a hat. You just fell for the one that the real powers shoveled to you because they knew the American public was over ripe for any black candidate they put up ... and boy did you fall hook, line, and sinker for the whole enchilada.

Put the whole picture together folks. You really fell hard for the biggest liar in all of America's history. It was so easy to soft-soap the sell because absolutely no one did their homework just as they knew you wouldn't. Obama's history and real self was so easy to find right from the beginning, but the American boob-tube generation did just as they were primed to do and with absolute and total ignorance.

Man, this quote thing really got botched. The following isn't mine but supposed to be the quote I was riding in on.

ote=graham2252]Bojester, I did not thank you for your comment before so I am doing so now and thanks for the warning because it surely came true and these guys are brainwashed to the point they can't see the anger within them that hinders them from showing compassion for those less fortunate than themselves and they attack anyone that does not see things their way. I started this forum to talk about r****m in American and somehow it turned into handouts or lack of handouts is r****m on the part of those affected. Those on the right see any questions about cutting food stamps,and other programs as r****m. Now I know I see r****m in this country and to say it is not there is crazy. To say it does not exitst in the new v****g changes is ludicris. To not notice it in the wages paid by big companys is unexceptable. I do know this, if it smells like bs, if you step in bs and when you hear bs then you konw it is bull S--t. Love to hear from you.[/quote]

graham2252

[/quote]I will not respond to any statements made by you concerning the presidents life style of the past other than to say thats how you feel. But to the point of this forum you try to make it sound as if r****m is a small thing that will always be and that I do agree on one of those facts and that is r****m will always be. But our history has shown that r****m has in the past and present day continued to cause great harm to b****s and cause them undue hardships and to deny its affects is to not be true thy self. A lot of people think that the 50's and 60's were the time that b****s had best in this country because there were no welfare or other programs that were to help b****s climb the economic latter. Far from the trueth, and insulting. Note b****s were still being lynched and working for scraps that did not afford them a decent living to take care of their kids. Secondly it seems that because b****s and not all have not taken advantage of education the way society thinks they should have is because they are some how lazy and want to be bad boys and criminals. Wrong, there are lots of reasons why b****s and w****s don't do well in the education systems and when we as a people address some of these issues we will get a better understanding of what is needed to correct this growing problem. The world has and still is changing so much and at a pace thats hard to keep up with. When you cut programs and stop funding schools that provides the latest technology training that is neccessary for advancement, you are adding to the drop out rate, knowing that the communities that some of the poorest people live in is also contributing to the problems. It is easy to say those b****s are lazy and all they want is government handouts to do nothing but committ crimes against their own people and be a burden to tax payers. Now lets look at some of the posible causes of these behaviors that may be at the root of this nation wide situation. Are there jobs for those worthless college degrees that you say some of us b****s have. Is there disrimination in the hiring pratices done by some companys? Can black parents pay for rent, lights, gas, food,and clothing with what little wages are given by these rich companys? Is our justice system fair to fill their jails and prisons with 93%(one third) of the b****s population? This is just a few of the road blocks intentionally put in place to keep b****s from achieving success in our America. Oh, lets not forget stop and frisk that is practiced across the nation. The v****g changes in North Carolina I guess is not done to cause b****s problems as well as in Texus. You know it is plan to see when you do some fact reading that does not just support your point of veiw. But I know you don't veiw these points as a real enough r****t problem for b****s, so no this , it is for b****s. And if or when it is corrected you will see a better society for all of us. Until those w***e A******ns that keeps us apart with their r****t practices stop, things will not get any better.

GOP poison

WOW. You are telling me that when Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz were out there smiling from ear to ear with their Tea Party crowds all happy as hell and saying how happy they were that they were actually thanking Obama for shutting down the government? AMAZING !!!!

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

If it were not for r****t liberal excuse makers such as yourself, r****m would hardly exist, so you and your liberal party just keep on k*****g all those unborn black babies and i guarantee r****m will be gone due to you fine effert at genocide.

Welcome aboard.

rickenbacker

Selvin The reason the people dont like Obama has nothing to do with the color of his skin, or his nappy hair, or anything else about his physical make up - the reason he is disliked is because of his behavior in office - He has done things for which any white president would have been impeached, convicted, and executed for Treason a long time ago! Its ONLY because he is Black that he has been spared, and not been Impeached The Cowardly Congress wont go against a Black president for fear of being tagged as not PC! The Neo Liberals, giving credit where credit is due, have done a spectacular job over the years of brainwashing this nation into accepting PC as a legitimate political policy .. but of course it is all non-sense but it has literally been the controlling philosophy of this nation for decades and has allowed T*****rs like Obama to survive Except the People are finally waking up thanks, EXCLUSIVELY, to a Mr Donald Trump who has had the balls (read courage) to say what all thinking people have been thinking for decades - That this nation is being ruled by a bunch of Sociopathic, self serving, bought and paid for Hack politicians who would sell out their own mother to attain and retain their position of power and over-compensated for positions in Cogress - the Nation and its people be Damned !

Jimbolai

oBummer has done more to destroy obmmer than any white people. After all, without the white v**e he would not be president. So you call w****s devils because they don't like to get shafted?

fiatlux

R****m went nowhere in America but where it always was: in the sickened and debased heart of a person. It is, sadly, very much alive and, er, thriving in this country, despite what the Right on Fox and Limbugh try to suppress.

Jimbolai

Selvin Graham you are a r****t. Get over it.

AProudNavyVeteran69 Loc: Burien,Washington

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: It will be a Cold and Windy day in Hell, before i side up with the KKK. They are a Human Bomb of Destruction. I am a Mixed Breed, and proud of it, and i have no respect for anyone who tries to trash another Race. We should all learn to live together in this Country, without being a control Freaks.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Welcome to the forum, Selvin.