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Apr 12, 2016 20:29:44   #
Sons of Liberty Loc: look behind you!
 
The Republican party has tried every dirty trick to keep billionaire Donald Trump from winning the GOP p**********l nomination.

But if Trump emerges from the July Republican National Convention as the party’s nominee, a group of wealthy Republicans has a “plan B” to make sure he still never reaches the White House.

According to multiple reports, some senior, well-funded members of the Republican party are readying a complex plan to install their chosen man in the White House — retired Marine General James Mattis.

“An anonymous group of conservative billionaires is ready to place their bets on a man dubbed ‘Mad Dog,’ hoping to draft him into the p**********l race to confront Donald Trump,” reports the Daily Beast.

The Daily Caller says his name is being circulated by anti-Trump Republican party insiders that are “looking into the possibility of fielding a third-party p**********l ticket if Donald Trump wins the Republican nomination.”

In fact, according to the The Daily Beast’s Tim Mak, there have already been six strategic memos drafted outlining how Mattis could win, with the hopes of luring him into the race.

The party insiders would rely on the anti-Trump and anti-Hillary Clinton third party v**e to split the e*******l college math enough to stop either from receiving the 270 v**es needed to win the presidency.

According to Mak, if “the retired military officer could win several states won by President Obama in 2012, they might be able to block Clinton, thus forcing the incoming House of Representatives to make a decision on the next president of the United States.” That’s something that hasn’t happened in nearly 200 years.

The most likely target would be Florida, where a Mattis victory over the 29 e*******l v**es could create a Trump-Clinton e*******l scenario similar to something like this:

http://thehornnews.com/secret-gop-backup-plan-dump-trump/

Without 270 e*******l v**es, the House of Representatives would v**e on the three possible candidates — which has only happened twice before, in 1800 and 1824.

The goal is that Mattis would be the compromise choice among the Republican-controlled House, who would install him in the White House.

Noted conservative commentator Eric Erickson and Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol have weighed in on the possible run.

Kristol, speaking at a fundraiser for the Hoover Institute in February where Mattis is a visiting fellow, suggested that the retired four-star general could be conscripted into the race.

In April, Erickson weighed in on the possibility:

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Apr 13, 2016 06:20:01   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
You got this right!!!

Did you by chance hear any of Trumps comments yesterday and the "RNC slim" that shows us all how little our v**e really counts and their crooked ways of getting who they want, not the will of the people in office???

They throw this e******n and I will never ever again v**e R..I will also work very hard to be sure that party does in fact implode!!!!

Trump had a meeting with them yesterday too...I hope he told them exactly what he intends to do to expose it all~~~

Delegate v**es should follow the popular v**e of the people and to hell with them having all the power to throw it .....Rules re-written a week before the Convention etc..I sure will be watching for them!!

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Apr 13, 2016 11:08:19   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
lindajoy wrote:
You got this right!!!

Did you by chance hear any of Trumps comments yesterday and the "RNC slim" that shows us all how little our v**e really counts and their crooked ways of getting who they want, not the will of the people in office???

They throw this e******n and I will never ever again v**e R..I will also work very hard to be sure that party does in fact implode!!!!

Trump had a meeting with them yesterday too...I hope he told them exactly what he intends to do to expose it all~~~

Delegate v**es should follow the popular v**e of the people and to hell with them having all the power to throw it .....Rules re-written a week before the Convention etc..I sure will be watching for them!!
You got this right!!! br br Did you by chance hea... (show quote)


Oklahoma has finally recognized the Libertarian Party so I plan on changing my registration after all I relate more to Libertarian than either Democrat or Republican.

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Apr 13, 2016 18:17:53   #
cornelius Loc: NEBRASKA
 
YOU REALLY WISH TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BY SUCH A NEFARIOUS SCHEME? THAT WOLD BE REALLY STUPID.
CJC

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Apr 13, 2016 18:31:38   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
cornelius wrote:
YOU REALLY WISH TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BY SUCH A NEFARIOUS SCHEME? THAT WOLD BE REALLY STUPID.
CJC


The Republican Party is doing a pretty good job of destroying themselves.

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Apr 14, 2016 06:17:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
cornelius wrote:
YOU REALLY WISH TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BY SUCH A NEFARIOUS SCHEME? THAT WOLD BE REALLY STUPID.
CJC


What Republican Party??

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Apr 14, 2016 08:39:10   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
This is exactly what I have been saying for years.

The Weirdest Possible Outcomes For The Strangest E******n In U.S. History

Brandon Smith
Alt Market
April 13, 2016
If you are a longtime activist in the Liberty Movement then you are well aware that e******ns do not matter in terms of the future direction our nation takes.
Presidents are puppets of international financiers, and so are most legislators. Whenever a president does attempt to go against the system, he either ends up shot by a “lone gunman,” or his office is disgraced by a conveniently-leaked scandal.
Today, e******ns represent the illusion of choice; that is all. The leadership of both major parties seem different in terms of their rhetoric, but this is all cosmetic. Underneath the talk, Democrat and Republican leaders are nearly identical in their support for bigger government, more centralization, less constitutional protections, more globalism, more power to international banks and central banks, and less t***sparency and accountability.
For many decades now, the choice has been between the puppet on the left hand or the puppet on the right hand. This year is proving to be a little different, at least on the face of things, to the point where e******ns are becoming rather surreal.
For younger generations with limited experience participating in the world of U.S. e******ns, developments today might seem odd but not outlandish. For older generations of Americans a consensus seems to be forming and the concerns commonly expressed in the mainstream and on the web appear to match – 2016 is turning out to be the strangest p**********l e******n they have ever seen.
In my recent article “Will A Trump Presidency Really Change Anything For The Better?,” I examine Trump’s ambiguity as an individual and his lack of political history, and why this makes him a hard candidate to pin down. The fact is, Trump is enticing to the public for the most part because the public has no idea what he really stands for. We have no evidence that his rhetoric is false because he has no legislative history to contradict his claims.
With candidates like Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and Ted Cruz, the public is well aware of where they really stand on the issues – Clinton is hardcore g*******t establishment, Ted Cruz is the same though he pretends to be opposite, and Bernie, well, Bernie is damn socialist and his only redeeming value is that he is at least honest about it.
The public knows what they will get with the other candidates; they do not know what they will get with Trump. Thus, Trump enjoys an incredible level of popularity because many Americans would rather gamble on the unknown than stick with the status quo.
The very presence of a candidate like Trump alone makes e******n 2016 extra weird, but this is only the beginning.
Some might argue that any change in the atmosphere of our e******n process at this point can only be a good thing. I would argue that the fact that the establishment is allowing their long time control mechanism to evolve into an overwhelming reality television-style circus (rather than the stiff and boringly predictable farce we are used to) suggests that Americans are being deliberately distracted from dangerous geopolitical and economic developments.
Look at it this way; we have Trump who is an attack-dog candidate who ends up in the news every other day for something he said and who attacks a Democratic opponent with which he has in the past maintained a longtime friendship. We have a fully exposed international criminal in the form of Clinton, who has been under investigation and should be prosecuted. We have a full-blown socialist named Bernie whose supporters make up a majority of the crazed social justice and cultural Marxist crowd. And we have Cruz, a “pro-constitution” anti-bank candidate with ties to those same banks and ties to an anti-sovereignty think tank (The Council on Foreign Relations).
Some Republicans accuse Trump of being an agent for the Clinton camp. Some Democrats accuse Sanders of being an agent for the Republicans. Hillary barks like a dog at her own campaign events. Sanders supporters start fights at Trump rallies and then get their asses beat because cultural Marxists are abject weaklings. Cruz gets accused of repeated adultery while some i***t thinks that posting naked pictures of Trumps wife will actually hurt his campaign rather than help it.
This whole situation feels like a soap opera gone terribly awry. How could one NOT be distracted?
In the meantime, we have a global economy returning to extreme volatility after years of central bank manipulation which has failed to accomplish anything except make the rich and powerful more rich and powerful. We have potential geopolitical hot spots in Syria, Ukraine and the South China Sea which continue to present possible triggers for global conflict. We have internationally organized terrorist supervillains in the form of ISIS, the same Islamic extremists that Western covert intelligence agencies trained and funded to destabilize the Middle East now attacking multiple countries in the West. And, we have Eastern and Western banks working closely with the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements while pretending to be at odds with each other.
Any of the above factors could set catastrophes in motion that could change the world for a hundred years or more, and yet we are fed a steady diet of campaign mega-drama.
As stated earlier, e******ns in the U.S. do not decide the future of our nation, but they do in many ways reflect the level of insanity that our collective society has reached, and, they also can reflect the direction in which the establishment hopes to send us.
I believe it is very possible, considering the already erratic nature of the e******ns so far, that we might end up with unexpected developments and outcomes designed to further mesmerize the masses. Here are just a few of those potential events.
A Three Or Four-Way Race
Trump has suggested in the past that he might run as an independent candidate in the event that the Republican Party uses a brokered convention to remove him from the race. I am not convinced that the entire Trump vs. Republican Establishment situation is not a contrived Kabuki theater. That said, the general argument would be that a Trump independent run would “guarantee” a Democratic win.
Again, I believe the winner of the e******n is already predetermined, but assuming for a moment this is not the case, the Democrats have the same problem as the Republicans. Bernie Sanders has said months ago that he was not interested in running under a third party if Clinton gets the nomination, but his supporters continue to call for him to do so, and, many of those polled have stated that they would refuse to v**e for Clinton if Sanders loses the nomination.
This presents a potentially frenetic final e******n filled with utter chaos; a three- or four-way “competition” in which there is no clear leader; a funny prospect for those of us who are tired of the e******n con game, but pretty disturbing to everyone else.
Delegates Choose A Candidate That Does Not Represent Public Wishes
Contentions are increasing over the existence of “super delegates” in the Democratic Party which have the power to override party majority sentiment towards a particular candidate. Many of these super delegates are actually top ranking members and officials of the Democratic Party, and can v**e for any candidate they wish rather than following a “pledge” to v**e at the convention for the candidate that the democratic constituency wants.
While the Republican establishment tends to use convention “rule changes” as a fail-safe to prevent a grassroots candidate from achieving an upset in the nomination (as they did with Ron Paul), the Democrats use the super delegates as a fail-safe for the same purpose. It is very possible that Bernie Sanders could receive the widest popular support among Democrat v**ers but still lose the nomination to Clinton through the super delegates.
Convention-Inspired Conflict And R**ts
Given the already seething angst between supporters of Trump, Cruz, Sanders and Clinton, any railroading of a candidate at the conventions, whether real or fabricated for effect, could very well result in internal violence spilling into open r**ts. Some candidates, including Trump, have suggested this will be the ultimate outcome. I tend to agree. The divisions between Americans are so pronounced now that I would be shocked if people did not react emotionally to a brokered or stolen convention. This would also be a fantastic method to continue the distraction of the public away from greater problems.
A Surprise Combined Ticket
This scenario had not struck me as realistic until last week; I’m not sure why (perhaps it is too strange), but it is certainly plausible. The idea that Trump and Cruz or Clinton and Sanders might actually combine forces at a brokered convention might sound ridiculous today, but keep in mind that most e******ns are nothing more than theater, and this includes f**e rivalries. Beyond this, the argument could be made on either side that the only way to “win” is to unite the divided Democrats or divided Republicans through a truce. I can hear the sound bites now – “People, in the end we are all (Democrats/Republicans), and we must stop the d******eness for the good of the party. It is time to focus on the real enemy; the (Democrats/Republicans)…”
Such a scenario could stave off r**ting and inner-party chaos, but the final e******n results would still be a guaranteed explosion of tensions.
Widespread E******n F***d On Both Sides
Yes, there is already widespread e******n f***d in the U.S. every two to four years. However, what I am referring to is e******n f***d which takes a mainstream stage and which makes even the most oblivious Americans question the validity of the process. I am talking about the mainstream media deliberately pushing the meme of e******n f***d to help the establishment conjure the environment of instability they obviously want. I am talking about the complete unraveling of the American p**********l race.
A Postponed E******n
In the event of stolen conventions, e******n f***d or r**ting, the e******n itself could very well be postponed. Congress does have the authority to pass a law postponing federal e******ns due to emergencies or “extenuating circumstances”, and, they also have the ability to t***sfer that authority to the executive branch.
Keep in mind, this could also take place in the event of a national crisis outside of the e******n process. An economic collapse, large scale terrorist attacks, or general social breakdown could result in a postponed e******n. Though this is an incredibly unlikely scenario, with the way 2016 has been going I would not rule anything out. Also take note that such a scenario would result in a prolonged Obama White House and of course the inevitable outcome mentioned below…
Civil War
I have said it before and I’ll say it again, if Hillary Clinton is chosen by the establishment to take Obama’s place, the result would probably be outright civil war in the U.S. The level of hatred among conservatives for that woman is so stratospheric I cannot see any other outcome. It might not happen immediately, but a solid bet would be conf**gration within her first term.
With a Trump win, I could also see at the very least nationwide r**ts similar in tone to those that occurred in Ferguson, Missouri, with the social justice cultists running wild with their goofy slogans and molotov cocktails. These people are a paper tiger however, and are only a threat if they manage to convince a majority of the ethnic American population to follow their lead.
The greater danger is if Trump is actually an agent for the establishment rather than anti-establishment. If Trump responds to r**ting using unconstitutional measures or exploits the crisis to overstep the bounds of federal power, at that point we will know exactly who he works for. Again, with Trump, everything is a gamble and we won’t know until we know.
Some of the above theoretical scenarios might sound outlandish, but then again, if you traveled back in time a decade ago and tried to explain what the conditions of e******ns would be in 2016, I doubt anyone would believe you.
I continue to hold to the premise that the e******ns have entered the world of the weird because America itself is on the edge of something that will shake its very core. What that event will be is hard to say because there are so many possibilities, but tensions of this caliber usually escalate to crisis before they deescalate, and tensions today are surely escalating.
It is clear that we are in for a roller-coaster ride in the next year, so prepare accordingly, but also keep in mind that e******ns in themselves do not represent threats or solutions to threats. You and I, the awake and aware, are the solution to the threats facing this country. The e******ns only serve as a gauge for how close to the bottom of the abyss we actually are.

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Apr 14, 2016 08:54:19   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Until enough of the brainwashed/dead sheople wake up, things are only going to get worse for the middle class.

Chart of the Day – Wall Street vs. Main Street

Michael Krieger
Liberty Blitzkrieg
April 13, 2016
Wall Street is counting its winnings from seven years of easy money.
The results represent a clear victory for Wall Street over Main Street, according to the team of Michael Hartnett, BofA’s chief investment strategist.
“Zero rates and asset purchases of central banks have, thus far, proved much more favorable to Wall Street, capitalists, shadow banks, ‘unicorns,’ and so on than it has for Main Street, workers, savers, banks and the jobs market,” the BofA team wrote.
– From the post: Bank of America Admits – Central Bank Policy Enriched Wall Street While “Steamrolling” Main Street
When I first started this website several years ago, part of my mission was to convince as many people as possible that we all have a common adversary, the U.S. status quo. Back then, the public was still largely confused. Still in financial shock from the crisis, many Americans hung onto hope that if they just kept their heads down and worked hard things would get better. Well they didn’t get better, and they aren’t going to.
The reason things aren’t getting better is because the economy is r****d. A weak, largely phony cyclical recovery isn’t going to help you, nor will time, technology or empty promises from corrupt politicians. The only thing that’s going to change things for the better is massive, paradigm-level systemic change. To achieve such change, the current oligarchy needs to be o*******wn. This isn’t meant to conjure up imagery of pitchforks and guillotines; however, it is meant to bring home the point that the current cadre of discredited, corrupt and unethical “leaders” running the show and crafting public policy need to removed from any and all positions of power through democratic means. The good news is that the public is beginning to understand this, and you can see this desire through the rise of both Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.
In some ways, a lot of the work already has been done. Citizens have finally figured out they’ve been duped, which is half the battle given denial is such a powerful emotion. The key challenge from here is to choose a better path; one of liberty, real free markets, civil liberties, ethics and the rule of law . The primary objective shouldn’t be to thoughtlessly o*******w the status quo out of anger and get something worse, the key is to evolve and move on to something better.
Another realization I’ve come to over the years is the fact that the status quo really isn’t that sophisticated and savvy. They generally recycle the same Jedi mind tricks over and over to prevent people from understanding what’s really happening. In today’s post, I want to highlight one in particular.
For those of use who recall how the mainstream media, c*********d pundits and Wall Street welfare babies “sold” us on the unconscionable banker bailouts, we vividly remember a constant repetition of the invented and preposterous mantra that “helping Wall Street in turn helps Main Street.” This fantastical idea that the fortunes of Wall Street and Main Street are inextricably linked is, of course, total garbage and always has been. More specifically, over the past 25 years you could, and should, argue that Wall Street’s financial success has come via a total abandonment and pillaging of Main Street.
For some data points, let’s turn to Bloomberg:
Five years after Occupy Wall Street protesters took over Zuccotti Park in downtown Manhattan, spawning a national discussion about the divide between America’s highest and lowest earners, the pay gap has only gotten wider. Now, even as bankers bemoan their declining bonuses and job prospects, it’s helping fuel the campaigns of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.
The spread is even more pronounced over the past 25 years. When adjusted for inflation, wages for investment bankers and securities-industry employees, including salary and bonuses, increased 117 percent from 1990 through 2014, according to U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data. Over the same period, wages for all other industries rose 21 percent, to $51,029 in 2014, about one-fifth of the $264,357 that bankers and brokers earned that year.
The next question one should ask is, how has Wall Street helped the U.S. in order to deserve such incredible financial success? Well they mass produced fraudulent products, destroyed the global economy and then demanded a massive taxpayer bailout for starters. A year after the banker bailouts, Wall Street bonuses were at record highs, while Americans were still being kicked out of their homes. That’s about as close a link you’re going to find between Wall Street and Main Street.
The reason I bring this up today is not to increase the public’s rage against the bloated financial sector and the obvious harm it does to society, but to highlight an example of how the status quo invents and propagates a myth in order to deceive the public. The good news is that they always keep recycling the same myths, so once we understand their game plan, the potency of their lies diminishes. Let’s make sure they can’t use the Wall Street/Main Street one ever again.





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Apr 14, 2016 09:07:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
buffalo wrote:
This is exactly what I have been saying for years.

The Weirdest Possible Outcomes For The Strangest E******n In U.S. History

Brandon Smith
Alt Market
April 13, 2016
If you are a longtime activist in the Liberty Movement then you are well aware that e******ns do not matter in terms of the future direction our nation takes.
Presidents are puppets of international financiers, and so are most legislators. Whenever a president does attempt to go against the system, he either ends up shot by a “lone gunman,” or his office is disgraced by a conveniently-leaked scandal.
Today, e******ns represent the illusion of choice; that is all. The leadership of both major parties seem different in terms of their rhetoric, but this is all cosmetic. Underneath the talk, Democrat and Republican leaders are nearly identical in their support for bigger government, more centralization, less constitutional protections, more globalism, more power to international banks and central banks, and less t***sparency and accountability.
For many decades now, the choice has been between the puppet on the left hand or the puppet on the right hand. This year is proving to be a little different, at least on the face of things, to the point where e******ns are becoming rather surreal.
For younger generations with limited experience participating in the world of U.S. e******ns, developments today might seem odd but not outlandish. For older generations of Americans a consensus seems to be forming and the concerns commonly expressed in the mainstream and on the web appear to match – 2016 is turning out to be the strangest p**********l e******n they have ever seen.
In my recent article “Will A Trump Presidency Really Change Anything For The Better?,” I examine Trump’s ambiguity as an individual and his lack of political history, and why this makes him a hard candidate to pin down. The fact is, Trump is enticing to the public for the most part because the public has no idea what he really stands for. We have no evidence that his rhetoric is false because he has no legislative history to contradict his claims.
With candidates like Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, and Ted Cruz, the public is well aware of where they really stand on the issues – Clinton is hardcore g*******t establishment, Ted Cruz is the same though he pretends to be opposite, and Bernie, well, Bernie is damn socialist and his only redeeming value is that he is at least honest about it.
The public knows what they will get with the other candidates; they do not know what they will get with Trump. Thus, Trump enjoys an incredible level of popularity because many Americans would rather gamble on the unknown than stick with the status quo.
The very presence of a candidate like Trump alone makes e******n 2016 extra weird, but this is only the beginning.
Some might argue that any change in the atmosphere of our e******n process at this point can only be a good thing. I would argue that the fact that the establishment is allowing their long time control mechanism to evolve into an overwhelming reality television-style circus (rather than the stiff and boringly predictable farce we are used to) suggests that Americans are being deliberately distracted from dangerous geopolitical and economic developments.
Look at it this way; we have Trump who is an attack-dog candidate who ends up in the news every other day for something he said and who attacks a Democratic opponent with which he has in the past maintained a longtime friendship. We have a fully exposed international criminal in the form of Clinton, who has been under investigation and should be prosecuted. We have a full-blown socialist named Bernie whose supporters make up a majority of the crazed social justice and cultural Marxist crowd. And we have Cruz, a “pro-constitution” anti-bank candidate with ties to those same banks and ties to an anti-sovereignty think tank (The Council on Foreign Relations).
Some Republicans accuse Trump of being an agent for the Clinton camp. Some Democrats accuse Sanders of being an agent for the Republicans. Hillary barks like a dog at her own campaign events. Sanders supporters start fights at Trump rallies and then get their asses beat because cultural Marxists are abject weaklings. Cruz gets accused of repeated adultery while some i***t thinks that posting naked pictures of Trumps wife will actually hurt his campaign rather than help it.
This whole situation feels like a soap opera gone terribly awry. How could one NOT be distracted?
In the meantime, we have a global economy returning to extreme volatility after years of central bank manipulation which has failed to accomplish anything except make the rich and powerful more rich and powerful. We have potential geopolitical hot spots in Syria, Ukraine and the South China Sea which continue to present possible triggers for global conflict. We have internationally organized terrorist supervillains in the form of ISIS, the same Islamic extremists that Western covert intelligence agencies trained and funded to destabilize the Middle East now attacking multiple countries in the West. And, we have Eastern and Western banks working closely with the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements while pretending to be at odds with each other.
Any of the above factors could set catastrophes in motion that could change the world for a hundred years or more, and yet we are fed a steady diet of campaign mega-drama.
As stated earlier, e******ns in the U.S. do not decide the future of our nation, but they do in many ways reflect the level of insanity that our collective society has reached, and, they also can reflect the direction in which the establishment hopes to send us.
I believe it is very possible, considering the already erratic nature of the e******ns so far, that we might end up with unexpected developments and outcomes designed to further mesmerize the masses. Here are just a few of those potential events.
A Three Or Four-Way Race
Trump has suggested in the past that he might run as an independent candidate in the event that the Republican Party uses a brokered convention to remove him from the race. I am not convinced that the entire Trump vs. Republican Establishment situation is not a contrived Kabuki theater. That said, the general argument would be that a Trump independent run would “guarantee” a Democratic win.
Again, I believe the winner of the e******n is already predetermined, but assuming for a moment this is not the case, the Democrats have the same problem as the Republicans. Bernie Sanders has said months ago that he was not interested in running under a third party if Clinton gets the nomination, but his supporters continue to call for him to do so, and, many of those polled have stated that they would refuse to v**e for Clinton if Sanders loses the nomination.
This presents a potentially frenetic final e******n filled with utter chaos; a three- or four-way “competition” in which there is no clear leader; a funny prospect for those of us who are tired of the e******n con game, but pretty disturbing to everyone else.
Delegates Choose A Candidate That Does Not Represent Public Wishes
Contentions are increasing over the existence of “super delegates” in the Democratic Party which have the power to override party majority sentiment towards a particular candidate. Many of these super delegates are actually top ranking members and officials of the Democratic Party, and can v**e for any candidate they wish rather than following a “pledge” to v**e at the convention for the candidate that the democratic constituency wants.
While the Republican establishment tends to use convention “rule changes” as a fail-safe to prevent a grassroots candidate from achieving an upset in the nomination (as they did with Ron Paul), the Democrats use the super delegates as a fail-safe for the same purpose. It is very possible that Bernie Sanders could receive the widest popular support among Democrat v**ers but still lose the nomination to Clinton through the super delegates.
Convention-Inspired Conflict And R**ts
Given the already seething angst between supporters of Trump, Cruz, Sanders and Clinton, any railroading of a candidate at the conventions, whether real or fabricated for effect, could very well result in internal violence spilling into open r**ts. Some candidates, including Trump, have suggested this will be the ultimate outcome. I tend to agree. The divisions between Americans are so pronounced now that I would be shocked if people did not react emotionally to a brokered or stolen convention. This would also be a fantastic method to continue the distraction of the public away from greater problems.
A Surprise Combined Ticket
This scenario had not struck me as realistic until last week; I’m not sure why (perhaps it is too strange), but it is certainly plausible. The idea that Trump and Cruz or Clinton and Sanders might actually combine forces at a brokered convention might sound ridiculous today, but keep in mind that most e******ns are nothing more than theater, and this includes f**e rivalries. Beyond this, the argument could be made on either side that the only way to “win” is to unite the divided Democrats or divided Republicans through a truce. I can hear the sound bites now – “People, in the end we are all (Democrats/Republicans), and we must stop the d******eness for the good of the party. It is time to focus on the real enemy; the (Democrats/Republicans)…”
Such a scenario could stave off r**ting and inner-party chaos, but the final e******n results would still be a guaranteed explosion of tensions.
Widespread E******n F***d On Both Sides
Yes, there is already widespread e******n f***d in the U.S. every two to four years. However, what I am referring to is e******n f***d which takes a mainstream stage and which makes even the most oblivious Americans question the validity of the process. I am talking about the mainstream media deliberately pushing the meme of e******n f***d to help the establishment conjure the environment of instability they obviously want. I am talking about the complete unraveling of the American p**********l race.
A Postponed E******n
In the event of stolen conventions, e******n f***d or r**ting, the e******n itself could very well be postponed. Congress does have the authority to pass a law postponing federal e******ns due to emergencies or “extenuating circumstances”, and, they also have the ability to t***sfer that authority to the executive branch.
Keep in mind, this could also take place in the event of a national crisis outside of the e******n process. An economic collapse, large scale terrorist attacks, or general social breakdown could result in a postponed e******n. Though this is an incredibly unlikely scenario, with the way 2016 has been going I would not rule anything out. Also take note that such a scenario would result in a prolonged Obama White House and of course the inevitable outcome mentioned below…
Civil War
I have said it before and I’ll say it again, if Hillary Clinton is chosen by the establishment to take Obama’s place, the result would probably be outright civil war in the U.S. The level of hatred among conservatives for that woman is so stratospheric I cannot see any other outcome. It might not happen immediately, but a solid bet would be conf**gration within her first term.
With a Trump win, I could also see at the very least nationwide r**ts similar in tone to those that occurred in Ferguson, Missouri, with the social justice cultists running wild with their goofy slogans and molotov cocktails. These people are a paper tiger however, and are only a threat if they manage to convince a majority of the ethnic American population to follow their lead.
The greater danger is if Trump is actually an agent for the establishment rather than anti-establishment. If Trump responds to r**ting using unconstitutional measures or exploits the crisis to overstep the bounds of federal power, at that point we will know exactly who he works for. Again, with Trump, everything is a gamble and we won’t know until we know.
Some of the above theoretical scenarios might sound outlandish, but then again, if you traveled back in time a decade ago and tried to explain what the conditions of e******ns would be in 2016, I doubt anyone would believe you.
I continue to hold to the premise that the e******ns have entered the world of the weird because America itself is on the edge of something that will shake its very core. What that event will be is hard to say because there are so many possibilities, but tensions of this caliber usually escalate to crisis before they deescalate, and tensions today are surely escalating.
It is clear that we are in for a roller-coaster ride in the next year, so prepare accordingly, but also keep in mind that e******ns in themselves do not represent threats or solutions to threats. You and I, the awake and aware, are the solution to the threats facing this country. The e******ns only serve as a gauge for how close to the bottom of the abyss we actually are.
This is exactly what I have been saying for years.... (show quote)


If delegates and super delegates determine who is going in does running as an Independent really change anything at all??? In the end its the delegates that determine...

All hell will brak loose and the parties as known, D's and R's may be finishing them self off!! Not such a bad idea really........

TERM LIMITS, dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!! For every single one of them....And don't tell me we already have it in the e******n cycle...~~BS!!

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Apr 14, 2016 09:20:48   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
lindajoy wrote:
If delegates and super delegates determine who is going in does running as an Independent really change anything at all??? In the end its the delegates that determine...

All hell will brak loose and the parties as known, D's and R's may be finishing them self off!! Not such a bad idea really........

TERM LIMITS, dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!! For every single one of them....And don't tell me we already have it in the e******n cycle...~~BS!!


lindajoy-Need both term and age limits. Some of our elected officials are barely ambulatory and with limited brain power. Both sides are corrupt and in the game for self enrichment as opposed to service. Why would any sane person want to join an organization which has an 18% approval rating other than to feather their own nest ? These primaries are a complete farce. Ironically, without Trump most people would not have paid any attention to what has been going on for decades. Our v**es are basically meaningless and an exercise in futility. We need someone who will change the system. Good Luck America !!!

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Apr 14, 2016 09:32:30   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Ricko wrote:
lindajoy-Need both term and age limits. Some of our elected officials are barely ambulatory and with limited brain power. Both sides are corrupt and in the game for self enrichment as opposed to service. Why would any sane person want to join an organization which has an 18% approval rating other than to feather their own nest ? These primaries are a complete farce. Ironically, without Trump most people would not have paid any attention to what has been going on for decades. Our v**es are basically meaningless and an exercise in futility. We need someone who will change the system. Good Luck America !!!
lindajoy-Need both term and age limits. Some of o... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Absolutely agree with you Ricko.....

Trump, if nothing else, has exposed the t***h in criminal e******ns and it has nothing to do with i******s v****g or the dead.....Now those lying, do nothing criminal hill gang can not deny the very t***h in what THEY are doing and have done all along..We have known its all "r****d" we just missed who was really doing it...

New parties and term limits with age limits is a must!!!

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Apr 14, 2016 10:43:27   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
lindajoy wrote:
If delegates and super delegates determine who is going in does running as an Independent really change anything at all??? In the end its the delegates that determine...

All hell will brak loose and the parties as known, D's and R's may be finishing them self off!! Not such a bad idea really........

TERM LIMITS, dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!! For every single one of them....And don't tell me we already have it in the e******n cycle...~~BS!!


Hey Linda,

Do you actually think they will v**e themselves term limits? Not going to happen they stand to lose too much power if they do. But I do agree one term Senate 6yrs and 2 term House 2yrs and POTUS reduced to one term. That would at least make it so someone will not become to powerful and dependent on being a Politician for a career.

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Apr 14, 2016 11:17:42   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
PawneeCounty wrote:
Hey Linda,

Do you actually think they will v**e themselves term limits? Not going to happen they stand to lose too much power if they do. But I do agree one term Senate 6yrs and 2 term House 2yrs and POTUS reduced to one term. That would at least make it so someone will not become to powerful and dependent on being a Politician for a career.


Not in this life time, but that doesn't mean we don't demand it.. force to get it on the b****t, form a party of the poeple and referendum their butts, either. ..if we accept no, that's all we'll ever get...

Time is ripe, with the people screaming bloody murder now!!

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Apr 14, 2016 11:28:09   #
PawneeCounty Loc: Oklahoma USA
 
lindajoy wrote:
Not in this life time, but that doesn't mean we don't demand it.. force to get it on the b****t, form a party of the poeple and referendum their butts, either. ..if we accept no, that's all we'll ever get...

Time is ripe, with the people screaming bloody murder now!!


It just may work like you said, "the time is ripe", if they do the end run that is planned then, "the ? will hit the fan" so to speak.

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Apr 14, 2016 11:36:12   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
lindajoy wrote:
If delegates and super delegates determine who is going in does running as an Independent really change anything at all??? In the end its the delegates that determine...

All hell will brak loose and the parties as known, D's and R's may be finishing them self off!! Not such a bad idea really........

TERM LIMITS, dangit!!!!!!!!!!!!! For every single one of them....And don't tell me we already have it in the e******n cycle...~~BS!!


Term limits would not matter if the international banksters and Wall Street elite still get to buy politicians.

The money needs to be taken out of ALL politics. Make it illegal, like bribery, to give any money to any candidate for any office, and make lobbying illegal. Repeal Citizens United. Money is NOT free speech.

Of course, that ain't gonna happen. LOL

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