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Apr 6, 2016 06:34:40   #
fredlott63
 
God’s will

God wants us to use our minds. We should have eyes that see, ears that hear, and minds that understand. Satan has deceived this nation to the point that the church has lost it’s purpose. At one time it insured God’s will was done on earth. It was the moral guide for this nation. Now it teaches a feel good but do nothing religion where stories are told and people are entertained but the morality of this country has declined. Some men have become so perverted that they parade around naked in front of children. On this subject, the church says nothing. God is being worshipped but His instructions ignored. God’s will is written in the 7th chapter of Zechariah, in the 9th and 10th verses. I will cover each act one by one.
Execute true judgment - Currently we scrutinize and condemn normal relations and legalize same sex marriage. Straight porn is looked down on while perverts walk naked in front of children. Why is it okay for a man to have sex with a man, but not a woman?
Show mercy and compassion every man to his brother - We used to be one nation under God. We have let religion and politics divide us. A house divided cannot stand. We will either stand together or fall apart. We are all sinners. Mercy is when you should repay a transgression but don’t.
Oppress not the widow - These are women who may be wealthy, but her husband is dead so she is without a sense of vision for the future. It is wrong to take advantage or exploit someone because of a perceived lack of intelligence.
Nor the fatherless - The majority of abortions consist of women who have sex with multiple partners, and are unsure of who fathered the child. Killing a child for it’s own good or the good of society makes no sense. The time to concern yourself with providing for a child is before you have sex.
The stranger - While it was unfair to bring Africans here as slaves and then oppress them when slavery became illegal, African Americans don’t seem to have morality or character. Africa would be a better place to live if they would follow the biblical principles of parents caring for their children and not shitting where they eat.
Nor the poor - The chief cause of poverty is a lack of intelligence. If a poor man wins the lottery his lifestyle becomes poor again within a year. Taking advantage of a person doesn’t know any better is wrong.
Let none of you imagine evil against his brother in his heart - God can read your mind. Evil deeds can be described as stealing, killing, and destroying. We should not imagine situations where evil is okay. The dirtiest way to fight is to let God fight your battles.

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Apr 6, 2016 07:55:17   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
God’s will

God wants us to use our minds. We should have eyes that see, ears that hear, and minds that understand. Satan has deceived this nation to the point that the church has lost it’s purpose. At one time it insured God’s will was done on earth. It was the moral guide for this nation. Now it teaches a feel good but do nothing religion where stories are told and people are entertained but the morality of this country has declined. Some men have become so perverted that they parade around naked in front of children. On this subject, the church says nothing.
God’s will br br God wants us to use our minds. W... (show quote)


That's what happens when the churches allow Homosexuals to serve as preachers and church leaders. Morality will always be the first thing to degrade.

fredlott63 wrote:
God is being worshipped but His instructions ignored.


Can't be done. Man cannot "worship" God and ignore His will. It becomes "Either worship[, OR ignore;" not both.

[quote=fredlott63] God’s will is written in the 7th chapter of Zechariah, in the 9th and 10th verses. I will cover each act one by one.[/quote]

God's will begins with "Be still and know I am God."

fredlott63 wrote:
Execute true judgment - Currently we scrutinize and condemn normal relations and legalize same sex marriage. Straight porn is looked down on while perverts walk naked in front of children. Why is it okay for a man to have sex with a man, but not a woman?

Show mercy and compassion every man to his brother - We used to be one nation under God. We have let religion and politics divide us. A house divided cannot stand. We will either stand together or fall apart. We are all sinners. Mercy is when you should repay a transgression but don’t.
Oppress not the widow - These are women who may be wealthy, but her husband is dead so she is without a sense of vision for the future. It is wrong to take advantage or exploit someone because of a perceived lack of intelligence.
Nor the fatherless - The majority of abortions consist of women who have sex with multiple partners, and are unsure of who fathered the child. Killing a child for it’s own good or the good of society makes no sense. The time to concern yourself with providing for a child is before you have sex.

The stranger - While it was unfair to bring Africans here as slaves and then oppress them when slavery became illegal,
Execute true judgment - Currently we scrutinize a... (show quote)


There is more to fairness than simply rhetorisizing it. You are right on the mark.

fredlott63 wrote:
African Americans don’t seem to have morality or character.


I consider that to be overly generalizing unfairly - there are many African-Americans who are morally and exceptionally good examples for anyone to follow.

fredlott63 wrote:
Africa would be a better place to live if they would follow the biblical principles of parents caring for their children and not shitting where they eat.


So would America.

fredlott63 wrote:
Nor the poor - The chief cause of poverty is a lack of intelligence. If a poor man wins the lottery his lifestyle becomes poor again within a year.


Again, too much generalization applied inappropriately to an issue that has many causes. And assessing the unknown with platitudiness that does nothing to solve the problem.

fredlott63 wrote:
Taking advantage of a person doesn’t know any better is wrong.


Taking advantage of persons who DO know better is also wrong. It is "Taking advantage" that is the error, not the knowledge level of the disadvantaged.

fredlott63 wrote:
Let none of you imagine evil against his brother in his heart - God can read your mind. Evil deeds can be described as stealing, killing, and destroying. We should not imagine situations where evil is okay. The dirtiest way to fight is to let God fight your battles.


I like that! It is the dirtiest and the rightest.

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Apr 6, 2016 11:52:20   #
fredlott63
 
Theo wrote:
I like that! It is the dirtiest and the rightest.


It is very entertaining to watch Him do it.

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Apr 6, 2016 16:26:12   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
It is very entertaining to watch Him do it.


I weep when I see others fall to the judgment of God, because it reminds me of my own frailties.

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Apr 7, 2016 06:37:17   #
fredlott63
 
Theo wrote:
I weep when I see others fall to the judgment of God, because it reminds me of my own frailties.


If you really want to weep, read Isaiah 5:1 - 14 and see the fate of people that are deceived.

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Apr 7, 2016 08:16:56   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
If you really want to weep, read Isaiah 5:1 - 14 and see the fate of people that are deceived.


I never "want to weep." That comes from too strong an emotional response whether of good or of bad.

Isaiah 5 speaks of a bad thing for Israel, but Jeremiah speaks of TERRIBLE things happening TO Israel because of the terrible things they did to themselves. Much like what Americans are doing to this Nation and calling it "MY Constitutional right," which it never was and never will be.

Jeremiah 19:4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place
with the blood of innocents;5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my
mind:


Jeremiah 32:32 Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah,
and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 33 And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. 34 But they set their
abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. 35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech;
which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.


God never commanded women to Abort their babies as a means of Birth Control. And He never told men to cling to one another as with a woman.

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Apr 7, 2016 08:32:05   #
fredlott63
 
Leviticus 18:22

Theo wrote:
I never "want to weep." That comes from too strong an emotional response whether of good or of bad.

Isaiah 5 speaks of a bad thing for Israel, but Jeremiah speaks of TERRIBLE things happening TO Israel because of the terrible things they did to themselves. Much like what Americans are doing to this Nation and calling it "MY Constitutional right," which it never was and never will be.

Jeremiah 19:4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place
with the blood of innocents;5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my
mind:


Jeremiah 32:32 Because of all the evil of the children of Israel and of the children of Judah, which they have done to provoke me to anger, they, their kings, their princes, their priests, and their prophets, and the men of Judah,
and the inhabitants of Jerusalem. 33 And they have turned unto me the back, and not the face: though I taught them, rising up early and teaching them, yet they have not hearkened to receive instruction. 34 But they set their
abominations in the house, which is called by my name, to defile it. 35 And they built the high places of Baal, which are in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire unto Molech;
which I commanded them not, neither came it into my mind, that they should do this abomination, to cause Judah to sin.


God never commanded women to Abort their babies as a means of Birth Control. And He never told men to cling to one another as with a woman.
I never "want to weep." That comes from ... (show quote)

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Apr 7, 2016 09:59:02   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Leviticus 18:22


I think you misunderstand.

When God gave Israel laws, He gave two categories of law, Commission and Omission. The Israelite Nation accepted those laws as the basis of covenant with God. There are two words that have to do with understanding a covenant; Logos and reema. Logos is the concept that is developed, and reema is the written version of the concept.

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these [reema] words: for after the tenor of these [logos] I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel." [Exo 34:7]

When Israel accepted Covenant, they swore fealty to Elohiym and obedience to the law of the covenant. God is saying (my paraphrase); "I never considered that you would sink this low, to violate what you swore to obey."

The depth of their evil was not a consideration of Covenant.
God expected better of them.

This difference in expectation and resultant behavior is also shown in the discourse between God and Moses in the wilderness prior to Israel's acceptance of Covenant, when Moses was on the Mount receiving the law; For forty days and nights, God told Moses, "Get out of the way, I am going to destroy those people YOU brought out of Egypt." Moses responded "If you destroy the people YOU brought out of Egypt, the Egyptians will say "You were strong enough to take them, but not strong enough to keep them."

God accepted Moses' intervention and allowed the people to continue their Exodus adventure, but eliminated the generation that had so badly misconstrued reality, and the children of that generation were the ones who entered the promised land, all of the generation that left Egypt were destroyed on the forty year journey, except Joshua and Caleb, because those two had remained faithful to their God.

It is much like when we address issues of behavior with our own children, telling them why some things are not to be done; it never enters our mind that they will do them anyway, especially after saying they understand and will refrain from such.

If any problem remains in this issue, I will try to make it plain.

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Apr 7, 2016 13:39:03   #
fredlott63
 
I'm 53. I don't need to learn anymore.

Theo wrote:
I think you misunderstand.

When God gave Israel laws, He gave two categories of law, Commission and Omission. The Israelite Nation accepted those laws as the basis of covenant with God. There are two words that have to do with understanding a covenant; Logos and reema. Logos is the concept that is developed, and reema is the written version of the concept.

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these [reema] words: for after the tenor of these [logos] I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel." [Exo 34:7]

When Israel accepted Covenant, they swore fealty to Elohiym and obedience to the law of the covenant. God is saying (my paraphrase); "I never considered that you would sink this low, to violate what you swore to obey."

The depth of their evil was not a consideration of Covenant.
God expected better of them.

This difference in expectation and resultant behavior is also shown in the discourse between God and Moses in the wilderness prior to Israel's acceptance of Covenant, when Moses was on the Mount receiving the law; For forty days and nights, God told Moses, "Get out of the way, I am going to destroy those people YOU brought out of Egypt." Moses responded "If you destroy the people YOU brought out of Egypt, the Egyptians will say "You were strong enough to take them, but not strong enough to keep them."

God accepted Moses' intervention and allowed the people to continue their Exodus adventure, but eliminated the generation that had so badly misconstrued reality, and the children of that generation were the ones who entered the promised land, all of the generation that left Egypt were destroyed on the forty year journey, except Joshua and Caleb, because those two had remained faithful to their God.

It is much like when we address issues of behavior with our own children, telling them why some things are not to be done; it never enters our mind that they will do them anyway, especially after saying they understand and will refrain from such.

If any problem remains in this issue, I will try to make it plain.
I think you misunderstand. br br When God gave Is... (show quote)

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Apr 8, 2016 12:18:45   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
fredlott63 wrote:
I'm 53. I don't need to learn anymore.


Oh my! To be so young and full of it! Wisdom, of course?

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Apr 8, 2016 16:02:46   #
fredlott63
 
TexaCan wrote:
Oh my! To be so young and full of it! Wisdom, of course?


I used to be young. You may be older but that will not turn back the hands of time. We don't understand life in this country. In other countries, there is an age a child reaches where they are looked at as adults. In America, adults were beaten worse than children. 53 ain't young.

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Apr 8, 2016 17:29:12   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
fredlott63 wrote:
I used to be young. You may be older but that will not turn back the hands of time. We don't understand life in this country. In other countries, there is an age a child reaches where they are looked at as adults. In America, adults were beaten worse than children. 53 ain't young.


Why would I want to turn back the hands of time? Maybe you don't understand life in America, but most of us adults do. Are you not an American? What adults were beaten worse than adults? You are really getting waaay out there today? Maybe you might need just a little more knowledge after all!!

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Apr 9, 2016 09:43:30   #
fredlott63
 
TexaCan wrote:
Why would I want to turn back the hands of time? Maybe you don't understand life in America, but most of us adults do. Are you not an American? What adults were beaten worse than adults? You are really getting waaay out there today? Maybe you might need just a little more knowledge after all!!


No child was whipped like slaves were whipped. Up until recently a black man was considered a boy no matter what he accomplished. No matter how old he was. Do you think you are the spokesman for every adult in America?

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Apr 9, 2016 22:13:36   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
fredlott63 wrote:
No child was whipped like slaves were whipped. Up until recently a black man was considered a boy no matter what he accomplished. No matter how old he was. Do you think you are the spokesman for every adult in America?


No I'm not a spokesman for all adults. Fred you constantly criticize the beliefs of all people who don't believe as you. You claim to know what ALL churches teach or don't teach. You claim other churches don't teach chapter by chapter verse by verse. You claim that people that go to these churches don't know the bible. You assume an awful lot! Everyone does not have to go to the same church or interpret every verse alike to be saved. You seem to see the world as a hopeless dark satan controlled sad place to live. GOD is still in control!!!! There is still beauty all around us and the world still has some wonderful people in it. I think maybe you have some problems that affect the way you see the world. I hope that things get better for you. If you would stop judging other believers and assuming to know more than anybody else, we would enjoy your posts more. God bless you. Good it's.

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Apr 9, 2016 22:14:54   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
[quote=TexaCan]No I'm not a spokesman for all adults. Fred you constantly criticize the beliefs of all people who don't believe as you. You claim to know what ALL churches teach or don't teach. You claim other churches don't teach chapter by chapter verse by verse. You claim that people that go to these churches don't know the bible. You assume an awful lot! Everyone does not have to go to the same church or interpret every verse alike to be saved. You seem to see the world as a hopeless dark satan controlled sad place to live. GOD is still in control!!!! There is still beauty all around us and the world still has some wonderful people in it. I think maybe you have some problems that affect the way you see the world. I hope that things get better for you. If you would stop judging other believers and assuming to know more than anybody else, we would enjoy your posts more. God bless! Have a good night!

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