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Mar 22, 2016 16:14:42   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
zillaorange wrote:
"When the bill's passage seemed questionable due to opposition from democratic congressman Bart Stupak & other allegedly pro-life dems, Obama promised to issue an exec order denying federal funding for a******n in exchange for the "pro-lifers'" v**e on the bill. the proper procedure would have been for house dems to adopt new a******n language in their bill & then send the bill to the senate, but dems couldn't risk that, having lost their veto-proof majority in the senate with repub Scott Brown e******n in Mass. no problem for Obama, he just issued an order purportedly negating the statute's provision authorizing federal funding for a******n. the order was likely void on its face, both because it would function as a line item veto, which the supreme court has already declared unconstitutional, & because exec orders cannot alter legislation without congressional action. but it was just another day at the office for a man who behaves as though he's above the law." CRIMES AGAINST LIBERTY", p. 159
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...executive orders to help officers and agencies of the executive branch manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made pursuant to Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power...

You're right, but it appears to be a gray area. Heck, the legislators are responsible for creating a budget, but they never discuss that either...at best EO's are temporary to get congress to do the things they should be doing. National emergencies do give the President a lot of leeway, which we need. It has resulted in bad things, such as the patriot act.

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Mar 22, 2016 16:28:40   #
zillaorange
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
...executive orders to help officers and agencies of the executive branch manage the operations within the federal government itself. Executive orders have the full force of law when they take authority from a legislative power which grants its power directly to the Executive by the Constitution, or are made pursuant to Acts of Congress that explicitly delegate to the President some degree of discretionary power...

You're right, but it appears to be a gray area. Heck, the legislators are responsible for creating a budget, but they never discuss that either...at best EO's are temporary to get congress to do the things they should be doing. National emergencies do give the President a lot of leeway, which we need. It has resulted in bad things, such as the patriot act.
...executive orders to help officers and agencies ... (show quote)


got that right on the patriot act. don't hold your breath waiting for congress to do a damn thing !!!

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Mar 22, 2016 16:40:23   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
zillaorange wrote:
got that right on the patriot act. don't hold your breath waiting for congress to do a damn thing !!!


I know, and the sheep love to hear about how the government is stopping all of these homegrown terrorists...that they don't....Those two clowns in Texas announced their intentions on Facebook, long before they did it. Wow, people are stupid enough to announce attacks on Facebook? What do we need the NSA to spy on if they are dumb enough to announce it on Facebook?

...search for terrorist friends...ha.

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Mar 22, 2016 16:43:31   #
zillaorange
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I know, and the sheep love to hear about how the government is stopping all of these homegrown terrorists...that they don't....Those two clowns in Texas announced their intentions on Facebook, long before they did it. Wow, people are stupid enough to announce attacks on Facebook? What do we need the NSA to spy on if they are dumb enough to announce it on Facebook?

...search for terrorist friends...ha.

they'll be created as needed. keep the sheeple nervous !

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Mar 23, 2016 05:39:15   #
erniebanks14
 
If Obama declares martial law and becomes dictator, which I believe will happen, he will disband Congress and all laws will go through him. I also believe we will no longer have a Constitution especially since he has stated several times that it's antiquated. Mr. Obama has plans for this country and there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to stop him. The GOP has caved and once he gets that SCOTUS nomination approved he will never again lose in the Supreme Court.
Gatsby wrote:
Obama arbitrarIly changed the obamacare law, with a stroke of a pen.

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld Obama's action, creating the right of the executive branch to legislate from the oval office.

Congress now becomes an unnecessary duplication of effort.

Duplication of agency duties / responsibilities is to be eliminated as wasteful spending / regulation.

The new Supreme court majority affirms this policy.

The Congress of the United States is DISSOLVED.

The two remaining branches of federal government are renamed, DICTATOR & THE RULING JUNTA.

The ruling junta is to be hand picked by the dictator without oversight or recourse.

WELCOME TO PROGRESSIVE AMERICA

IF YOU LAUGH TODAY, YOU WILL CRY TOMORROW!
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Mar 23, 2016 08:20:05   #
samtheyank
 
Obama is a C*******t. He believes through Socialism you can obtain a culture and society whereby everyone is equal is stature; however, the State controls and defines the meaning of e******y. Obama, Marx and Lenin would all be good buddies if they were alive in this time and age.

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Mar 23, 2016 08:21:59   #
samtheyank
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I know, and the sheep love to hear about how the government is stopping all of these homegrown terrorists...that they don't....Those two clowns in Texas announced their intentions on Facebook, long before they did it. Wow, people are stupid enough to announce attacks on Facebook? What do we need the NSA to spy on if they are dumb enough to announce it on Facebook?

...search for terrorist friends...ha.

AMEN! BROTHER!

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Mar 23, 2016 09:54:01   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
samtheyank wrote:
Obama is a C*******t. He believes through Socialism you can obtain a culture and society whereby everyone is equal is stature; however, the State controls and defines the meaning of e******y. Obama, Marx and Lenin would all be good buddies if they were alive in this time and age.



Obama is a corporatist along the lines of Chicago-school-style economic neoliberalism: privatization, deregulation of capital and finance, austerity for the masses, private central-bank rule. Nowhere has he advocated for the ownership of the means of production and distribution to be turned over to society-as-a-whole, which is the basic tenent of socialism. He acts on behalf of the ruling class plutocracy of international bankers and financiers who control fiscal and monetary-policy in the West. Though government has the power to reign in these elitist parasites, they do not use it, choosing instead to partner with them.

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Mar 23, 2016 11:22:35   #
boatbob2
 
IF/when,some country ( I don't know who) decides to send America,a nuclear wake up call,IM hoping the first nuke lands in DC,when congress is in session.and obozo,is in our WHITE HOUSE,( and not out playing golf) that's the ONLY way,we are ever going to get the pussies (no disrespect to the ladies) out of our government.

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Mar 23, 2016 11:37:13   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I know, and the sheep love to hear about how the government is stopping all of these homegrown terrorists...that they don't....Those two clowns in Texas announced their intentions on Facebook, long before they did it. Wow, people are stupid enough to announce attacks on Facebook? What do we need the NSA to spy on if they are dumb enough to announce it on Facebook?

...search for terrorist friends...ha.


Agreed~~~besides the garbage we're fed in why we even need the NSA...They do not stop anything, even when known, as you point out....All this duplicity in security and yet it stops nothing World wide...The US, France, Australia, Belgium, the Middle East, etc..When is enough??

What it does do, rather efficiently, is make monitoring the citizens of this country their primary objective, while claiming it all for our security!! Yeahhhhhh righttttttttttt.........

When do we stop listening to the BS and start taking action??



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Mar 23, 2016 12:21:16   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
lindajoy wrote:
Agreed~~~besides the garbage we're fed in why we even need the NSA...They do not stop anything, even when known, as you point out....All this duplicity in security and yet it stops nothing World wide...The US, France, Australia, Belgium, the Middle East, etc..When is enough??

What it does do, rather efficiently, is make monitoring the citizens of this country their primary objective, while claiming it all for our security!! Yeahhhhhh righttttttttttt.........

When do we stop listening to the BS and start taking action??
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Yes, sis.

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Mar 23, 2016 12:33:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Yes, sis.


I love when you say that, my brother~~Hello and good day to you....

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Mar 23, 2016 15:00:36   #
robmull Loc: florida
 
zillaorange wrote:
got that right on the patriot act. don't hold your breath waiting for congress to do a damn thing !!!









"Congress," is doing just what it's supposed to do, zill, when a president [left or right] tries to go "under, over or around" [Pelosi]. That's why all the secular liberal progressive, "DO NOTHING CONGRESS," BS is JUST that; BS. If our Congress had always bent to the will of ANY damn president, "WE" would now be a lot closer to Cuba than "BHB" wants "US" to be!!!

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