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Mar 21, 2016 14:31:15   #
Progressive One
 
5 Reasons T***p W*n’t Win In November — And One Way He Could

Let’s start by clearing up the dumb misconceptions about the 2016 p**********l e******n.

Republican v**ers aren’t significantly angrier than they normally are. Primary turnout is in no way clearly predictive of general e******n success. Donald Trump hasn’t brought hordes of new people to the Republican Party. He’s not any more unpopular with Republican v**ers than Mitt Romney was at this stage in the 2012 e******n. He’s more blatantly r****t, xenophobic and misogynistic than his primary foes, but his core policy views are nearly identical to all the other Republican candidates. For instance, he wants to make the rich richer, denies climate science and is promising to appoint ultra-conservatives to the Supreme Court.

The real story of the 2016 e******n is actually quite extraordinary, but no one seems much interested in reality right now.

The candidate who has gotten the most v**es, for the second straight contested Democratic p**********l primary in a row, is a woman. And most of the people who are v****g for her are very pleased with the current Democratic president, who is about as popular now as Ronald Reagan was at this point in his eighth year in office.


“Of course, angry v**ers make for sexier clickbait,” The New Republic‘s Eric Sasson wrote. “So it’s not too surprising that we’re not seeing front-page headlines that scream, ‘Satisfied Obama Supporters Show Up in Droves.'”

There are plenty of reasons to be frustrated and want more from a government that has been hijacked to serve corporate interests. But few Americans seem eager to shift back the Republican policies that escalated our structural deficiencies into a global financial crisis. And even fewer seem interested in handing over the most powerful military ever created to a paper-thin-skinned demagogue with a scary tolerance for violence, or a sick appetite for it.

He will be the most d******e major p**********l candidate in at least a century — an unprincipled Barry Goldwater who could put even the most secure Republican House majority in play with his supreme ability to offend the anti-masochistic.

Here are five reasons why Donald T***p w*n’t be the next president of the United States. And, to combat complacence, an additional pitch on why you should still be working your ass off to defeat him.


1.There aren’t enough angry white men in America to make Donald Trump president.
Math is not on Donald Trump’s side. Maybe that’s why doesn’t want to release his tax returns. “The math suggests Trump would need a whopping 70 percent of white male v**ers to cast their b****ts for him,” David S. Bernstein wrote in Politico. “That’s a larger percentage than Republicans have ever won before — more than the GOP won in the landslide victories of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and far more than they won during the racially polarized e******ns of Barack Obama.” The argument is: Trump could motivate Americans who usually don’t show up at the polls; except that most of the people who don’t v**e tend to be progressive-leaning non-white males. Trump likes to imagine he’s going to sweep the Rust Belt — even though he’s doing worse with white v**ers there than Mitt Romney did. It’s true, Politico‘s Timothy Noah points out, that Trump is “doing exceptionally well compared to the other Republican candidates with (overwhelmingly white) blue-collar v**ers in Republican primaries.” But these are men who’d likely v**e for the GOP nominee no matter who he is.

2.The economy indicates a Democratic victory.
If Hillary Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, and is ultimately elected president, this week will be looked upon as a turning point for her campaign. She not only surprised with a string of victories in Midwest primaries and watched the GOP take another step towards nominating the most unpopular p**********l candidate in modern history, but the Fed indicated that it’s slowing the rate increases it had planned just days before the stock market went positive for the year. Some political scientists suggest that how v**ers feel about the economy is the most predictive factor for whether they’ll seek a change in the White House. And the U.S. economy — especially its job market — remains the great hope of the world, despite stagnating income growth for all but the ultra-wealthy. “Forecasting firm IHS Global Insight predicts that the Democratic nominee, whoever it is, will win 50.9% of the popular v**e in November, assuming the economy carries on as expected, with no big surprises,” Yahoo News’ Rick Newman reported.


3.Trump’s brilliant primary plan is a brilliant plan to lose the general e******n.
Trump’s plan to win the Republican primary by insulting elites and appealing the the basest instincts of Republican v**ers was designed to offend and fascinate the media, and it worked. But by endorsing mass deportations, banning Muslims from entrance into the U.S., and defunding Planned Parenthood, Trump has alienated the exact v**ers Republicans need the most. “Based on estimates of the composition of the 2016 e*****rate, if the next GOP nominee wins the same share of the white v**e as Mitt Romney won in 2012 (59 percent), he or she would need to win 30 percent of the nonwhite v**e. Set against recent history, that is a daunting obstacle,” the Washington Post‘s Dan Balz wrote. “Romney won only 17 percent of nonwhite v**ers in 2012. John McCain won 19 percent in 2008. George W. Bush won 26 percent in 2004.” The idea that Trump is about twice as appealing to minority v**ers as Romney was is hard to believe. And with Romney attacking Trump for associating himself with r****m, bigotry and xenophobia, you can imagine that many of the v**ers who turned out for Romney in droves will v**e Democratic or stay home, making Trump’s hurdles even higher.

4.Trump puts new states in play — for Democrats.
Trump continually claims he can put states like New York and Michigan in play, despite polls showing him losing in both states by double digits. These “rust belt” fantasies mostly miss the fact that most of the Democrats willing to leave the party because of racial appeals already have. Meanwhile, Trump’s hostility towards non-white v**ers could make North Carolina a swing state again. And for the first time, in Arizona a recent poll shows both Clinton and Sanders leading Trump.

5.Negative partisanship.
“The party system has split along racial, cultural, and religious lines, creating a kind of tribal system where each party’s supports regard the other side with incomprehension and loathing,” New York Magazine‘s Jonathan Chait explained after looking at the work of political scientists Alan Abramowitz and Steven Webster. These researchers see in the data what George W. Bush’s and Barack Obama’s political teams both saw: the death of the swing v**er. When women, young people, and people of color make up 81 percent of America’s total population, Democrats have a definite advantage, especially in years with high turnout. That’s why in 2010 we saw an historic effort to make access to the b****t more difficult. “In this trench-warfare atmosphere, the fact that the bloc of v**ers loyal to the Democrats is growing steadily would seem to loom large,” Chait writes, with the usual caveats about a recession, scandal, or terror attack being able to “disrupt” this pattern — even though v**ers seem to trust Clinton to deal with a terror attack over Trump.

Here’s how Trump wins: He keeps exceeding expectations.

Maybe we are in denial. That’s what Dilbert creator Scott Adams believes.

“Today I coined the phrase persuasion denier for people who think Clinton’s current poll numbers mean she will beat Trump in November,” he wrote on his purposely provocative blog. “If persuasion is real – and significant for e******ns – the past will not predict the future. The Master Persuader will warp reality until he gets what he wants. He’s halfway done.”

And Adams isn’t alone. Organized labor is sounding the alarm that Trump could be more popular with the working class than some expect.

Master analyst of political framing George Lakoff is also worried.

“The Democratic Party has not been taking seriously many of the reasons for Trump’s support and the range of that support. And the media has not been discussing many of the reasons for Trump’s support. That needs to change,” he warned in an excellent post explicating the GOP frontrunner’ appeal, “Why Trump?”

With $2 billion thus far in free media from America’s “news” networks, Trump cannot be underestimated. Democrats shouldn’t count on Republicans self-destructing, or on the media standing up to the increasingly absurd demands of this billion-dollar baby.

History tells us that Trump’s rise should not have happened; that “it” can’t happen here. But it could, if we let it.

Photo: Saif Alnuweiri

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Mar 21, 2016 15:41:19   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
A Pop Eyed Spook In 2016 wrote:
5 Reasons T***p W*n’t Win In November — And One Way He Could


KuntusNimrodicus,

Your chronic case of Trumpuptherectum is getting worse.

And although your head is stuck up Obammys rear end for now, you're gonna have to pull out soon and the Clinton gal may not be so accomodating to you spooks.

But meanwhile, Trump has you spookers worried to the point of uncivilized behavior.

But the main cause of your infinite stupidity is that you actually believe it matters who the president will be.

Because no matter the outcome you'll still be just a poor dumb spook...........PUNK !!!

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Mar 21, 2016 15:41:59   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
5 Reasons T***p W*n’t Win In November — And One Way He Could

Let’s start by clearing up the dumb misconceptions about the 2016 p**********l e******n.

Republican v**ers aren’t significantly angrier than they normally are. Primary turnout is in no way clearly predictive of general e******n success. Donald Trump hasn’t brought hordes of new people to the Republican Party. He’s not any more unpopular with Republican v**ers than Mitt Romney was at this stage in the 2012 e******n. He’s more blatantly r****t, xenophobic and misogynistic than his primary foes, but his core policy views are nearly identical to all the other Republican candidates. For instance, he wants to make the rich richer, denies climate science and is promising to appoint ultra-conservatives to the Supreme Court.

The real story of the 2016 e******n is actually quite extraordinary, but no one seems much interested in reality right now.

The candidate who has gotten the most v**es, for the second straight contested Democratic p**********l primary in a row, is a woman. And most of the people who are v****g for her are very pleased with the current Democratic president, who is about as popular now as Ronald Reagan was at this point in his eighth year in office.


“Of course, angry v**ers make for sexier clickbait,” The New Republic‘s Eric Sasson wrote. “So it’s not too surprising that we’re not seeing front-page headlines that scream, ‘Satisfied Obama Supporters Show Up in Droves.'”

There are plenty of reasons to be frustrated and want more from a government that has been hijacked to serve corporate interests. But few Americans seem eager to shift back the Republican policies that escalated our structural deficiencies into a global financial crisis. And even fewer seem interested in handing over the most powerful military ever created to a paper-thin-skinned demagogue with a scary tolerance for violence, or a sick appetite for it.

He will be the most d******e major p**********l candidate in at least a century — an unprincipled Barry Goldwater who could put even the most secure Republican House majority in play with his supreme ability to offend the anti-masochistic.

Here are five reasons why Donald T***p w*n’t be the next president of the United States. And, to combat complacence, an additional pitch on why you should still be working your ass off to defeat him.


1.There aren’t enough angry white men in America to make Donald Trump president.
Math is not on Donald Trump’s side. Maybe that’s why doesn’t want to release his tax returns. “The math suggests Trump would need a whopping 70 percent of white male v**ers to cast their b****ts for him,” David S. Bernstein wrote in Politico. “That’s a larger percentage than Republicans have ever won before — more than the GOP won in the landslide victories of Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and far more than they won during the racially polarized e******ns of Barack Obama.” The argument is: Trump could motivate Americans who usually don’t show up at the polls; except that most of the people who don’t v**e tend to be progressive-leaning non-white males. Trump likes to imagine he’s going to sweep the Rust Belt — even though he’s doing worse with white v**ers there than Mitt Romney did. It’s true, Politico‘s Timothy Noah points out, that Trump is “doing exceptionally well compared to the other Republican candidates with (overwhelmingly white) blue-collar v**ers in Republican primaries.” But these are men who’d likely v**e for the GOP nominee no matter who he is.

2.The economy indicates a Democratic victory.
If Hillary Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee, and is ultimately elected president, this week will be looked upon as a turning point for her campaign. She not only surprised with a string of victories in Midwest primaries and watched the GOP take another step towards nominating the most unpopular p**********l candidate in modern history, but the Fed indicated that it’s slowing the rate increases it had planned just days before the stock market went positive for the year. Some political scientists suggest that how v**ers feel about the economy is the most predictive factor for whether they’ll seek a change in the White House. And the U.S. economy — especially its job market — remains the great hope of the world, despite stagnating income growth for all but the ultra-wealthy. “Forecasting firm IHS Global Insight predicts that the Democratic nominee, whoever it is, will win 50.9% of the popular v**e in November, assuming the economy carries on as expected, with no big surprises,” Yahoo News’ Rick Newman reported.


3.Trump’s brilliant primary plan is a brilliant plan to lose the general e******n.
Trump’s plan to win the Republican primary by insulting elites and appealing the the basest instincts of Republican v**ers was designed to offend and fascinate the media, and it worked. But by endorsing mass deportations, banning Muslims from entrance into the U.S., and defunding Planned Parenthood, Trump has alienated the exact v**ers Republicans need the most. “Based on estimates of the composition of the 2016 e*****rate, if the next GOP nominee wins the same share of the white v**e as Mitt Romney won in 2012 (59 percent), he or she would need to win 30 percent of the nonwhite v**e. Set against recent history, that is a daunting obstacle,” the Washington Post‘s Dan Balz wrote. “Romney won only 17 percent of nonwhite v**ers in 2012. John McCain won 19 percent in 2008. George W. Bush won 26 percent in 2004.” The idea that Trump is about twice as appealing to minority v**ers as Romney was is hard to believe. And with Romney attacking Trump for associating himself with r****m, bigotry and xenophobia, you can imagine that many of the v**ers who turned out for Romney in droves will v**e Democratic or stay home, making Trump’s hurdles even higher.

4.Trump puts new states in play — for Democrats.
Trump continually claims he can put states like New York and Michigan in play, despite polls showing him losing in both states by double digits. These “rust belt” fantasies mostly miss the fact that most of the Democrats willing to leave the party because of racial appeals already have. Meanwhile, Trump’s hostility towards non-white v**ers could make North Carolina a swing state again. And for the first time, in Arizona a recent poll shows both Clinton and Sanders leading Trump.

5.Negative partisanship.
“The party system has split along racial, cultural, and religious lines, creating a kind of tribal system where each party’s supports regard the other side with incomprehension and loathing,” New York Magazine‘s Jonathan Chait explained after looking at the work of political scientists Alan Abramowitz and Steven Webster. These researchers see in the data what George W. Bush’s and Barack Obama’s political teams both saw: the death of the swing v**er. When women, young people, and people of color make up 81 percent of America’s total population, Democrats have a definite advantage, especially in years with high turnout. That’s why in 2010 we saw an historic effort to make access to the b****t more difficult. “In this trench-warfare atmosphere, the fact that the bloc of v**ers loyal to the Democrats is growing steadily would seem to loom large,” Chait writes, with the usual caveats about a recession, scandal, or terror attack being able to “disrupt” this pattern — even though v**ers seem to trust Clinton to deal with a terror attack over Trump.

Here’s how Trump wins: He keeps exceeding expectations.

Maybe we are in denial. That’s what Dilbert creator Scott Adams believes.

“Today I coined the phrase persuasion denier for people who think Clinton’s current poll numbers mean she will beat Trump in November,” he wrote on his purposely provocative blog. “If persuasion is real – and significant for e******ns – the past will not predict the future. The Master Persuader will warp reality until he gets what he wants. He’s halfway done.”

And Adams isn’t alone. Organized labor is sounding the alarm that Trump could be more popular with the working class than some expect.

Master analyst of political framing George Lakoff is also worried.

“The Democratic Party has not been taking seriously many of the reasons for Trump’s support and the range of that support. And the media has not been discussing many of the reasons for Trump’s support. That needs to change,” he warned in an excellent post explicating the GOP frontrunner’ appeal, “Why Trump?”

With $2 billion thus far in free media from America’s “news” networks, Trump cannot be underestimated. Democrats shouldn’t count on Republicans self-destructing, or on the media standing up to the increasingly absurd demands of this billion-dollar baby.

History tells us that Trump’s rise should not have happened; that “it” can’t happen here. But it could, if we let it.

Photo: Saif Alnuweiri
5 Reasons T***p W*n’t Win In November — And One Wa... (show quote)


You do love to espouse bulls**t don't you? But, then you're a Democrat, and they wallow in bulls**t.

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Mar 21, 2016 16:01:19   #
Progressive One
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
KuntusNimrodicus,

Your chronic case of Trumpuptherectum is getting worse.

And although your head is stuck up Obammys rear end for now, you're gonna have to pull out soon and the Clinton gal may not be so accomodating to you spooks.

But meanwhile, Trump has you spookers worried to the point of uncivilized behavior.

But the main cause of your infinite stupidity is that you actually believe it matters who the president will be.

Because no matter the outcome you'll still be just a poor dumb spook...........PUNK !!!
KuntusNimrodicus, br br Your chronic case of Trum... (show quote)


Hey Mr. "big nuts Online and small nuts in person"- a true b***h slapping candidate.: Read #1-And go read how Obama won in 2012 without the v**e of soon to be dinosaurs like you. Pretty soon you will have plenty of time on your hands to call black people spooks all day long.
:thumbup: :lol:

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Mar 21, 2016 16:02:06   #
Progressive One
 
JMHO wrote:
You do love to espouse bulls**t don't you? But, then you're a Democrat, and they wallow in bulls**t.


Will you admit in 2017 this wasn't bulls**tte?

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Mar 21, 2016 16:03:31   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Thanks for giving us Trump supporters all the more reason to get our v**e out , every derogatory post you put out just solidifys our resolve .. thanks again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mar 21, 2016 16:04:18   #
Progressive One
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks for giving us Trump supporters all the more reason to get our v**e out , every derogatory post you put out just solidifys our resolve .. thanks again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Mar 21, 2016 16:05:20   #
Progressive One
 
reconreb wrote:
Thanks for giving us Trump supporters all the more reason to get our v**e out , every derogatory post you put out just solidifys our resolve .. thanks again :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Everything Trump has said will do the same, but to a MUCH GREATER DEGREE!!!

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Mar 21, 2016 16:06:32   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
Will you admit in 2017 this wasn't bulls**tte?


Will you admit in 2017 it is bulls**t? :)

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Mar 21, 2016 16:19:55   #
Progressive One
 
JMHO wrote:
Will you admit in 2017 it is bulls**t? :)


If Trump gets canned before then I won't have to. That alone will prove my point. He did not make it to the General so the e******n discussion will be a non-issue. I always have the answer for my own questions when they are just given back to me. You did not answer: Will you admit it was not bulls**t?

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Mar 21, 2016 16:39:35   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
If Trump gets canned before then I won't have to. That alone will prove my point. He did not make it to the General so the e******n discussion will be a non-issue. I always have the answer for my own questions when they are just given back to me. You did not answer: Will you admit it was not bulls**t?


In your libtard dreams, pal...and, yes it was pure bulls**t. I never met a Democrat who wasn't full of bulls**t. Just look at your pathetic slate of candidates, a socialist/borderline C*******t old goat, and a pathological lying old hag with no accomplishments who is under criminal investigation by the FBI...and, that is the best you morons can come up with? That's the best your corrupt party can produce?

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Mar 21, 2016 16:49:31   #
Progressive One
 
JMHO wrote:
In your libtard dreams, pal...and, yes it was pure bulls**t. I never met a Democrat who wasn't full of bulls**t. Just look at your pathetic slate of candidates, a socialist/borderline C*******t old goat, and a pathological lying old hag with no accomplishments who is under criminal investigation by the FBI...and, that is the best you morons can come up with? That's the best your corrupt party can produce?


Just give it up when the GOP get's TRUMPED. I know you're man enough to admit you didn't know what the f-k you were talking about. I am, but as always, my money is on ME. So will you man up and admit you should have shut up?

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Mar 21, 2016 17:34:37   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
Just give it up when the GOP get's TRUMPED. I know you're man enough to admit you didn't know what the f-k you were talking about. I am, but as always, my money is on ME. So will you man up and admit you should have shut up?


Well, moron, as usual, you're wasting your money. Man up? How about you man up, libtard? never met a libtard Democrat who could man up, or even tell the t***h about anything for that matter. We do know that you don't know WTF you're talking about, pal...just a lot of hot air and bulls**t. :mrgreen:

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Mar 21, 2016 17:37:27   #
Progressive One
 
JMHO wrote:
Well, moron, as usual, you're wasting your money. Man up? How about you man up, libtard? never met a libtard Democrat who could man up, or even tell the t***h about anything for that matter. We do know that you don't know WTF you're talking about, pal...just a lot of hot air and bulls**t. :mrgreen:


So (stick to the topic/question dumbass) you'll admit you was talking bulls**t if Trump gets canned or Hillary wins?

I'll do the same if the opposite occurs. I am sure that is a bet you will take since the same offer is being made on this end. Unless you are scared you'll have to apologize to a liberal/progressive. Wouldn't that be humbling for you?

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Mar 21, 2016 18:53:10   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
So (stick to the topic/question dumbass) you'll admit you was talking bulls**t if Trump gets canned or Hillary wins?

I'll do the same if the opposite occurs. I am sure that is a bet you will take since the same offer is being made on this end. Unless you are scared you'll have to apologize to a liberal/progressive. Wouldn't that be humbling for you?


Well, dumbass, you're the one that has been talking bulls**t, not me. I simply called you on it, and your pathetic slate of candidates. Trump will not get canned, he may not be the nominee because the process is not over. He is the current delegate leader, and is still high in popularity. But, Hillary will not beat Trump, or Cruz, pal. BTW, that will be the day I have to apologize to a libtard Democrat, pal. You just get ready to apologize to a conservative, you f**king mental midget.

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