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Mar 14, 2016 12:20:33   #
Kevyn
 
A sinister group in the US is shooting and k*****g more americans than all of the terrorists combined, and republicans ignore and lie about the threat. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-t***h-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-k**l-more-people-than-terrorists-do

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Mar 14, 2016 12:30:47   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
A sinister group in the US is shooting and k*****g more americans than all of the terrorists combined, and republicans ignore and lie about the threat. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-t***h-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-k**l-more-people-than-terrorists-do




B****s? But I think you are confused on what party is ignoring it.

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Mar 14, 2016 13:55:31   #
Kevyn
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
B****s? But I think you are confused on what party is ignoring it.
I guess you did not click on the link, toddlers have shot and k**led more Americans last year then terrorists

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Mar 14, 2016 14:01:48   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
I guess you did not click on the link, toddlers have shot and k**led more Americans last year then terrorists



But not more than b****s shooting b****s, far more murderous than terrorists and children combined......by a long shot ( no pun intended) i clicked on link and read it, you are failing to address a far bigger issue that plagues American cities.

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Mar 14, 2016 14:08:35   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
B****s? But I think you are confused on what party is ignoring it.


http://wnep.com/2016/03/13/machete-swinging-attacker-shot-and-k**led-by-customer-at-7-11/

This machete swinging criminal will not do it again, and the man who k**led the criminal will be listed as another gun k*****g someone, at least in your world.

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Mar 14, 2016 14:58:55   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
But not more than b****s shooting b****s, far more murderous than terrorists and children combined......by a long shot ( no pun intended) i clicked on link and read it, you are failing to address a far bigger issue that plagues American cities.




Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a million different ways. Interesting to note, though, that according to these 2013 statistics published by the FBI, the raw numbers of white-on-white murders exceeds those of black-on-black. Further, murders by b****s represent less than 14% of murders against white people.

Violence is of course a complex issue in our culture, and my preference is to look at the problem through cultural and economic lenses rather than purely race. Regardless of the race of the victim or the perpetrator, we have a real problem with violence as an acceptable resolution to even the smallest of conflicts.



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Mar 14, 2016 15:08:00   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Kevyn wrote:
A sinister group in the US is shooting and k*****g more americans than all of the terrorists combined, and republicans ignore and lie about the threat. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/13/the-macabre-t***h-of-gun-control-in-the-us-is-that-toddlers-k**l-more-people-than-terrorists-do


We start training at a young age , sad that mommy steped in , the kid saw a thug sneaking up and reacted.. Good thing your in hiding might have to get the kid a sniper rifle and look ya up.. :mrgreen: But seriously its a tragedy and the moms fault .. Training is the key and this mom failed !!

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Mar 14, 2016 15:42:29   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a million different ways. Interesting to note, though, that according to these 2013 statistics published by the FBI, the raw numbers of white-on-white murders exceeds those of black-on-black. Further, murders by b****s represent less than 14% of murders against white people.

Violence is of course a complex issue in our culture, and my preference is to look at the problem through cultural and economic lenses rather than purely race. Regardless of the race of the victim or the perpetrator, we have a real problem with violence as an acceptable resolution to even the smallest of conflicts.
Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a mi... (show quote)





I take no issue with what you stated, k*****g without cause is blind to color, but with that being said........let us not forget to play the percentages when dealing with specific races, their numbers versus the numbers of shootings and murders do show a higher rate than than any other with a far smaller percentage of people there to do the shooting and k*****g. There is a problem when 13% is responsible for almost 50% of the murders, a problem that needs addressing. ..and quick.

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Mar 14, 2016 16:47:26   #
boofhead
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a million different ways. Interesting to note, though, that according to these 2013 statistics published by the FBI, the raw numbers of white-on-white murders exceeds those of black-on-black. Further, murders by b****s represent less than 14% of murders against white people.

Violence is of course a complex issue in our culture, and my preference is to look at the problem through cultural and economic lenses rather than purely race. Regardless of the race of the victim or the perpetrator, we have a real problem with violence as an acceptable resolution to even the smallest of conflicts.
Willy - One can slice and dice the statistics a mi... (show quote)


I don't get your point. What are you trying to say?

I see that the black offenders number about 2700 people and the white offenders are about the same number. But b****s are only about 12 percent of the population so they should have only 12 percent of the offenders. From this set of numbers they appear to be eight times more likely to commit murder than w****s? Is this what you intended to point out?

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Mar 14, 2016 17:59:34   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
boofhead wrote:
I don't get your point. What are you trying to say?

I see that the black offenders number about 2700 people and the white offenders are about the same number. But b****s are only about 12 percent of the population so they should have only 12 percent of the offenders. From this set of numbers they appear to be eight times more likely to commit murder than w****s? Is this what you intended to point out?




Looking only at % to total, boofhead, does not get at the root cause of violence; it's much more complex than that, and I believe that race is a misleading marker for murder.

If it were, one could logically put the N**is, perhaps the w****st group ever, at the top of the list for perpetrating mass murder on their own race.

The fact that a large portion of black violence is perpetrated against their own race is more an indication of how culturally segregated our communities remain. The poverty rate in the U.S. among b****s, which I believe to be a major factor in violence, is nearly 3 times that of caucasians, and in some states even higher. When opportunities for lawful success are unavailable, crime will rise in any community.

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Mar 14, 2016 18:12:52   #
Kevyn
 
boofhead wrote:
I don't get your point. What are you trying to say?

I see that the black offenders number about 2700 people and the white offenders are about the same number. But b****s are only about 12 percent of the population so they should have only 12 percent of the offenders. From this set of numbers they appear to be eight times more likely to commit murder than w****s? Is this what you intended to point out?
THe most striking statistic is that men far outnumber women when it comes to committing murder with a firearm. Perhaps only women shold be armed. But then again the lady in Florida provided her tot with a loaded gun and look what he did.

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Mar 14, 2016 18:17:57   #
righty Loc: Tenn
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Looking only at % to total, boofhead, does not get at the root cause of violence; it's much more complex than that, and I believe that race is a misleading marker for murder.

If it were, one could logically put the N**is, perhaps the w****st group ever, at the top of the list for perpetrating mass murder on their own race.

The fact that a large portion of black violence is perpetrated against their own race is more an indication of how culturally segregated our communities remain. The poverty rate in the U.S. among b****s, which I believe to be a major factor in violence, is nearly 3 times that of caucasians, and in some states even higher. When opportunities for lawful success are unavailable, crime will rise in any community.
Looking only at % to total, boofhead, does not get... (show quote)


So you claim these stats show how racially divided this country is...so if we weren't as divided, b****s would be k*****g more w****s, is that what you are saying??? Black on black k*****gs are most likely gang / drug related don't ya think?? It's a shame anyone has to get k**led in such a manner no matter the sex, age, race. But I'm here to tell you, gun control will not fix the problem.

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Mar 14, 2016 18:45:52   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
righty wrote:
So you claim these stats show how racially divided this country is...so if we weren't as divided, b****s would be k*****g more w****s, is that what you are saying??? Black on black k*****gs are most likely gang / drug related don't ya think?? It's a shame anyone has to get k**led in such a manner no matter the sex, age, race. But I'm here to tell you, gun control will not fix the problem.





I agree that gun control alone will not fix the problem. The issue is much more complex than that.

What I am saying is that of there were more economic e******y in America fewer people would be k*****g each other, period.

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Mar 14, 2016 19:14:15   #
righty Loc: Tenn
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I agree that gun control alone will not fix the problem. The issue is much more complex than that.

What I am saying is that of there were more economic e******y in America fewer people would be k*****g each other, period.


Gun control wont fix anything Paul, period. There are more gun laws on the books that aren't enforced. I have heard many people claim control will stop the mass shootings which is total hogwash. When someone is intent on causing mass destruction, one way or another they will do it. Look at the mass shootings, all have mental problems, yet we have a law preventing people with mental disabilities from owning a gun, we have laws saying felons can not own a gun. has any of these laws stopped the madness? No it hasn't nor will making more laws stop it. It all boils down to the person. Get to the root problem in the person and deal with that.

So you think economic e******y will lesson the k*****g? Aren't the big drug cartels rolling in the dough selling their stuff? Yet they k**l many don't they? Have you worked in LE Paul? Do you have any idea about gang ideology? Economics e******y will not change their ideology Paul, it is much much deeper than I think you grasp.

And really to use economic ine******y as a reason is far fetched don't ya think. Unless you and I are part of the 1%, heck even the 20% we fall into the economic ine******y trap do we not? I don't think you run around k*****g people, I know I don't. So that then can not be it can it?

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Mar 14, 2016 19:15:51   #
righty Loc: Tenn
 
Kevyn wrote:
THe most striking statistic is that men far outnumber women when it comes to committing murder with a firearm. Perhaps only women shold be armed. But then again the lady in Florida provided her tot with a loaded gun and look what he did.


Men also outnumber women shooting themselves with a gun. So whats your point? Women though, are much better shots than men are

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