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Mar 9, 2016 15:28:21   #
Progressive One
 
DOYLE McMANUS

THE BATTLE between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders hasn’t turned into a playground brawl like the Republican campaign, but it has still pitted Democrats against each other, sometimes bitterly. Sanders has slammed Clinton as a candidate in the pocket of billionaire donors. Clinton has dismissed Sanders as a dreamer who can’t get things done. And some of their followers have been nastier than that.
After a d******e campaign, can Clinton win support from Sanders v**ers if she wins the nomination, as appears likely? She can and she will — but it’s going to take some work.
That’s a bitter pill for Sanderistas to swallow while their candidate is still slogging from state to state in pursuit of a long-shot comeback. Some are already organizing a sullen resistance movement under the slogan “Bernie or Bust.” Its organizers are asking progressive v**ers to pledge not to v**e for Clinton, no matter what.
We’ve seen that kind of rearguard action before, and it almost never works. In 2008, a group of die-hard Clinton supporters pledged never to v**e for Barack Obama; their mostly female group was called PUMA, an acronym for “Party Unity My ....” By e******n day, they were forgotten.
“People who come out to v**e in primaries rarely sit out general e******ns,” noted Democratic strategist Mark Mellman, who isn’t working for either candidate. “Almost all Sanders v**ers will end up backing Clinton, assuming she gets the nomination.”
The most obvious reason: In the general e******n, Clinton will of course be running against a Republican, most likely Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, and Democrats will try to turn the e******n into a referendum on the GOP nominee, no matter which widely loathed name is on the ticket.
“Three months ago, the question for Hillary was: What am I going to do to energize the [progressive] base,” another Democratic operative told me. “That problem went away, thanks to Donald Trump.”
Some party strategists think Cruz, a beyond-the-mainstream conservative on social issues, would be even easier to defeat.
But the GOP candidate won’t be Clinton’s only asset. Once she’s sewn up the nomination, she’ll collect two endorsements that could sway skeptical progressives: one from Sanders, the other from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
“There’s going to be no reluctance on his part” if Clinton wins, Sanders’ chief strategist, Tad Devine, told me. “He has said that Hillary Clinton is extremely well qualified to be president. Meanwhile, he’s competing, and it’s going to go all the way to the end of the primaries.”
Warren hasn’t said when she’ll make an endorsement, but she’s already thinking about how she could play a role in helping Clinton win — and, meanwhile, nudging Clinton toward more progressive positions.
“Economic populism is driving a lot of the debate,” a person familiar with Warren’s thinking told me. “She knows how to communicate and operate in that space. She takes seriously her role in helping Democrats get it right.”
Warren has already lobbied Clinton to support expanding Social Security benefits, a favorite progressive goal. Last month, Clinton promised not to seek benefit cuts and said she wants to increase benefits for the poorest beneficiaries.
Warren also helped persuade Clinton to endorse legislation banning Wall Street executives from accepting “golden handshake” payments from their firms when they get government jobs.
In fact, Clinton has been campaigning as a progressive all along — just as an incrementalist progressive, not a revolutionary like Sanders.
She supports a higher federal minimum wage — just not as high as Sanders. She wants to expand financial aid to poor students and make community colleges tuition-free — but not all public four-year universities, as Sanders has proposed . She wants to expand President Obama’s health insurance program, but not convert it to a European-style “single payer” system, as Sanders wants.
She even has a campaign finance reform plan — although it’s not as radical as her rival’s. After her defeat in New Hampshire, she tried to sound as fired up as Sanders about that issue.
“Sen. Sanders and I both want to get secret unaccountable money out of politics,” she said. “You’re not going to find anybody more committed to aggressive campaign finance reform than me.”
But Clinton’s biggest problem with progressives isn’t her policies; it’s her history. Polls have long shown that many v**ers, including Sanders backers, don’t quite trust her. In New Hampshire, v**ers who ranked honesty as a high priority favored Sanders over Clinton, 92% to 6%.
Clinton knows that.
“I understand that v**ers have questions,” she told an interviewer in January. “I think there’s an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people’s minds, and that is: ‘Is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?’ I think that’s a question people are trying to sort through.”
A credible answer to that question, a little help from Sanders and Warren, and continued chaos in the GOP will make it possible for Clinton to reunify her party for the fall campaign. doyle.mcmanus@latimes.com   Twitter: @DoyleMcManus

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Mar 9, 2016 15:32:23   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
Only thing the Hillary can unite is other pepoles money with her pocket , bet you gave also :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:

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Mar 9, 2016 15:53:19   #
Progressive One
 
reconreb wrote:
Only thing the Hillary can unite is other pepoles money with her pocket , bet you gave also :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:


I will give once she locks up the nomination. I did the same with Pres. Obama, both times.

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Mar 9, 2016 16:47:17   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
DOYLE McMANUS

THE BATTLE between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders hasn’t turned into a playground brawl like the Republican campaign, but it has still pitted Democrats against each other, sometimes bitterly. Sanders has slammed Clinton as a candidate in the pocket of billionaire donors. Clinton has dismissed Sanders as a dreamer who can’t get things done. And some of their followers have been nastier than that.
After a d******e campaign, can Clinton win support from Sanders v**ers if she wins the nomination, as appears likely? She can and she will — but it’s going to take some work.
That’s a bitter pill for Sanderistas to swallow while their candidate is still slogging from state to state in pursuit of a long-shot comeback. Some are already organizing a sullen resistance movement under the slogan “Bernie or Bust.” Its organizers are asking progressive v**ers to pledge not to v**e for Clinton, no matter what.
We’ve seen that kind of rearguard action before, and it almost never works. In 2008, a group of die-hard Clinton supporters pledged never to v**e for Barack Obama; their mostly female group was called PUMA, an acronym for “Party Unity My ....” By e******n day, they were forgotten.
“People who come out to v**e in primaries rarely sit out general e******ns,” noted Democratic strategist Mark Mellman, who isn’t working for either candidate. “Almost all Sanders v**ers will end up backing Clinton, assuming she gets the nomination.”
The most obvious reason: In the general e******n, Clinton will of course be running against a Republican, most likely Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, and Democrats will try to turn the e******n into a referendum on the GOP nominee, no matter which widely loathed name is on the ticket.
“Three months ago, the question for Hillary was: What am I going to do to energize the [progressive] base,” another Democratic operative told me. “That problem went away, thanks to Donald Trump.”
Some party strategists think Cruz, a beyond-the-mainstream conservative on social issues, would be even easier to defeat.
But the GOP candidate won’t be Clinton’s only asset. Once she’s sewn up the nomination, she’ll collect two endorsements that could sway skeptical progressives: one from Sanders, the other from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
“There’s going to be no reluctance on his part” if Clinton wins, Sanders’ chief strategist, Tad Devine, told me. “He has said that Hillary Clinton is extremely well qualified to be president. Meanwhile, he’s competing, and it’s going to go all the way to the end of the primaries.”
Warren hasn’t said when she’ll make an endorsement, but she’s already thinking about how she could play a role in helping Clinton win — and, meanwhile, nudging Clinton toward more progressive positions.
“Economic populism is driving a lot of the debate,” a person familiar with Warren’s thinking told me. “She knows how to communicate and operate in that space. She takes seriously her role in helping Democrats get it right.”
Warren has already lobbied Clinton to support expanding Social Security benefits, a favorite progressive goal. Last month, Clinton promised not to seek benefit cuts and said she wants to increase benefits for the poorest beneficiaries.
Warren also helped persuade Clinton to endorse legislation banning Wall Street executives from accepting “golden handshake” payments from their firms when they get government jobs.
In fact, Clinton has been campaigning as a progressive all along — just as an incrementalist progressive, not a revolutionary like Sanders.
She supports a higher federal minimum wage — just not as high as Sanders. She wants to expand financial aid to poor students and make community colleges tuition-free — but not all public four-year universities, as Sanders has proposed . She wants to expand President Obama’s health insurance program, but not convert it to a European-style “single payer” system, as Sanders wants.
She even has a campaign finance reform plan — although it’s not as radical as her rival’s. After her defeat in New Hampshire, she tried to sound as fired up as Sanders about that issue.
“Sen. Sanders and I both want to get secret unaccountable money out of politics,” she said. “You’re not going to find anybody more committed to aggressive campaign finance reform than me.”
But Clinton’s biggest problem with progressives isn’t her policies; it’s her history. Polls have long shown that many v**ers, including Sanders backers, don’t quite trust her. In New Hampshire, v**ers who ranked honesty as a high priority favored Sanders over Clinton, 92% to 6%.
Clinton knows that.
“I understand that v**ers have questions,” she told an interviewer in January. “I think there’s an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people’s minds, and that is: ‘Is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?’ I think that’s a question people are trying to sort through.”
A credible answer to that question, a little help from Sanders and Warren, and continued chaos in the GOP will make it possible for Clinton to reunify her party for the fall campaign. doyle.mcmanus@latimes.com   Twitter: @DoyleMcManus
DOYLE McMANUS br br THE BATTLE between Hi... (show quote)




No, far too many young people do not trust her. ..thats why you have a Bernie doing well as a socialis Dem, she has lost a big chunk of the college crowd.

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Mar 9, 2016 18:26:10   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
I will give once she locks up the nomination. I did the same with Pres. Obama, both times.


Madam Democrat(KuntusNimrodicus)

Just like a poor dumb spook.

Giving your mammys' money to rich white people.

You couldn't be more stupid ....MA'AM !

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Mar 9, 2016 18:45:59   #
markinny
 
hard to unite when you constantly lie .

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Mar 9, 2016 19:37:27   #
Ve'hoe
 
maybe with handcuffs


markinny wrote:
hard to unite when you constantly lie .

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Mar 10, 2016 08:20:04   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
Yes she can as all the Demos think much alike and all will come out well. Just one problem, the rest of the nation will be screwed in the process.



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Mar 10, 2016 08:58:55   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
DOYLE McMANUS

THE BATTLE between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders hasn’t turned into a playground brawl like the Republican campaign, but it has still pitted Democrats against each other, sometimes bitterly. Sanders has slammed Clinton as a candidate in the pocket of billionaire donors. Clinton has dismissed Sanders as a dreamer who can’t get things done. And some of their followers have been nastier than that.
After a d******e campaign, can Clinton win support from Sanders v**ers if she wins the nomination, as appears likely? She can and she will — but it’s going to take some work.
That’s a bitter pill for Sanderistas to swallow while their candidate is still slogging from state to state in pursuit of a long-shot comeback. Some are already organizing a sullen resistance movement under the slogan “Bernie or Bust.” Its organizers are asking progressive v**ers to pledge not to v**e for Clinton, no matter what.
We’ve seen that kind of rearguard action before, and it almost never works. In 2008, a group of die-hard Clinton supporters pledged never to v**e for Barack Obama; their mostly female group was called PUMA, an acronym for “Party Unity My ....” By e******n day, they were forgotten.
“People who come out to v**e in primaries rarely sit out general e******ns,” noted Democratic strategist Mark Mellman, who isn’t working for either candidate. “Almost all Sanders v**ers will end up backing Clinton, assuming she gets the nomination.”
The most obvious reason: In the general e******n, Clinton will of course be running against a Republican, most likely Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, and Democrats will try to turn the e******n into a referendum on the GOP nominee, no matter which widely loathed name is on the ticket.
“Three months ago, the question for Hillary was: What am I going to do to energize the [progressive] base,” another Democratic operative told me. “That problem went away, thanks to Donald Trump.”
Some party strategists think Cruz, a beyond-the-mainstream conservative on social issues, would be even easier to defeat.
But the GOP candidate won’t be Clinton’s only asset. Once she’s sewn up the nomination, she’ll collect two endorsements that could sway skeptical progressives: one from Sanders, the other from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
“There’s going to be no reluctance on his part” if Clinton wins, Sanders’ chief strategist, Tad Devine, told me. “He has said that Hillary Clinton is extremely well qualified to be president. Meanwhile, he’s competing, and it’s going to go all the way to the end of the primaries.”
Warren hasn’t said when she’ll make an endorsement, but she’s already thinking about how she could play a role in helping Clinton win — and, meanwhile, nudging Clinton toward more progressive positions.
“Economic populism is driving a lot of the debate,” a person familiar with Warren’s thinking told me. “She knows how to communicate and operate in that space. She takes seriously her role in helping Democrats get it right.”
Warren has already lobbied Clinton to support expanding Social Security benefits, a favorite progressive goal. Last month, Clinton promised not to seek benefit cuts and said she wants to increase benefits for the poorest beneficiaries.
Warren also helped persuade Clinton to endorse legislation banning Wall Street executives from accepting “golden handshake” payments from their firms when they get government jobs.
In fact, Clinton has been campaigning as a progressive all along — just as an incrementalist progressive, not a revolutionary like Sanders.
She supports a higher federal minimum wage — just not as high as Sanders. She wants to expand financial aid to poor students and make community colleges tuition-free — but not all public four-year universities, as Sanders has proposed . She wants to expand President Obama’s health insurance program, but not convert it to a European-style “single payer” system, as Sanders wants.
She even has a campaign finance reform plan — although it’s not as radical as her rival’s. After her defeat in New Hampshire, she tried to sound as fired up as Sanders about that issue.
“Sen. Sanders and I both want to get secret unaccountable money out of politics,” she said. “You’re not going to find anybody more committed to aggressive campaign finance reform than me.”
But Clinton’s biggest problem with progressives isn’t her policies; it’s her history. Polls have long shown that many v**ers, including Sanders backers, don’t quite trust her. In New Hampshire, v**ers who ranked honesty as a high priority favored Sanders over Clinton, 92% to 6%.
Clinton knows that.
“I understand that v**ers have questions,” she told an interviewer in January. “I think there’s an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people’s minds, and that is: ‘Is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?’ I think that’s a question people are trying to sort through.”
A credible answer to that question, a little help from Sanders and Warren, and continued chaos in the GOP will make it possible for Clinton to reunify her party for the fall campaign. doyle.mcmanus@latimes.com   Twitter: @DoyleMcManus
DOYLE McMANUS br br THE BATTLE between Hi... (show quote)


The only thing she wants to unite with is other women!

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Mar 10, 2016 10:34:37   #
DamnYANKEE
 
A Democrat In 2016 wrote:
DOYLE McMANUS

THE BATTLE between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders hasn’t turned into a playground brawl like the Republican campaign, but it has still pitted Democrats against each other, sometimes bitterly. Sanders has slammed Clinton as a candidate in the pocket of billionaire donors. Clinton has dismissed Sanders as a dreamer who can’t get things done. And some of their followers have been nastier than that.
After a d******e campaign, can Clinton win support from Sanders v**ers if she wins the nomination, as appears likely? She can and she will — but it’s going to take some work.
That’s a bitter pill for Sanderistas to swallow while their candidate is still slogging from state to state in pursuit of a long-shot comeback. Some are already organizing a sullen resistance movement under the slogan “Bernie or Bust.” Its organizers are asking progressive v**ers to pledge not to v**e for Clinton, no matter what.
We’ve seen that kind of rearguard action before, and it almost never works. In 2008, a group of die-hard Clinton supporters pledged never to v**e for Barack Obama; their mostly female group was called PUMA, an acronym for “Party Unity My ....” By e******n day, they were forgotten.
“People who come out to v**e in primaries rarely sit out general e******ns,” noted Democratic strategist Mark Mellman, who isn’t working for either candidate. “Almost all Sanders v**ers will end up backing Clinton, assuming she gets the nomination.”
The most obvious reason: In the general e******n, Clinton will of course be running against a Republican, most likely Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, and Democrats will try to turn the e******n into a referendum on the GOP nominee, no matter which widely loathed name is on the ticket.
“Three months ago, the question for Hillary was: What am I going to do to energize the [progressive] base,” another Democratic operative told me. “That problem went away, thanks to Donald Trump.”
Some party strategists think Cruz, a beyond-the-mainstream conservative on social issues, would be even easier to defeat.
But the GOP candidate won’t be Clinton’s only asset. Once she’s sewn up the nomination, she’ll collect two endorsements that could sway skeptical progressives: one from Sanders, the other from Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.).
“There’s going to be no reluctance on his part” if Clinton wins, Sanders’ chief strategist, Tad Devine, told me. “He has said that Hillary Clinton is extremely well qualified to be president. Meanwhile, he’s competing, and it’s going to go all the way to the end of the primaries.”
Warren hasn’t said when she’ll make an endorsement, but she’s already thinking about how she could play a role in helping Clinton win — and, meanwhile, nudging Clinton toward more progressive positions.
“Economic populism is driving a lot of the debate,” a person familiar with Warren’s thinking told me. “She knows how to communicate and operate in that space. She takes seriously her role in helping Democrats get it right.”
Warren has already lobbied Clinton to support expanding Social Security benefits, a favorite progressive goal. Last month, Clinton promised not to seek benefit cuts and said she wants to increase benefits for the poorest beneficiaries.
Warren also helped persuade Clinton to endorse legislation banning Wall Street executives from accepting “golden handshake” payments from their firms when they get government jobs.
In fact, Clinton has been campaigning as a progressive all along — just as an incrementalist progressive, not a revolutionary like Sanders.
She supports a higher federal minimum wage — just not as high as Sanders. She wants to expand financial aid to poor students and make community colleges tuition-free — but not all public four-year universities, as Sanders has proposed . She wants to expand President Obama’s health insurance program, but not convert it to a European-style “single payer” system, as Sanders wants.
She even has a campaign finance reform plan — although it’s not as radical as her rival’s. After her defeat in New Hampshire, she tried to sound as fired up as Sanders about that issue.
“Sen. Sanders and I both want to get secret unaccountable money out of politics,” she said. “You’re not going to find anybody more committed to aggressive campaign finance reform than me.”
But Clinton’s biggest problem with progressives isn’t her policies; it’s her history. Polls have long shown that many v**ers, including Sanders backers, don’t quite trust her. In New Hampshire, v**ers who ranked honesty as a high priority favored Sanders over Clinton, 92% to 6%.
Clinton knows that.
“I understand that v**ers have questions,” she told an interviewer in January. “I think there’s an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people’s minds, and that is: ‘Is she in it for us or is she in it for herself?’ I think that’s a question people are trying to sort through.”
A credible answer to that question, a little help from Sanders and Warren, and continued chaos in the GOP will make it possible for Clinton to reunify her party for the fall campaign. doyle.mcmanus@latimes.com   Twitter: @DoyleMcManus
DOYLE McMANUS br br THE BATTLE between Hi... (show quote)


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Mar 10, 2016 13:00:47   #
Gatsby
 
THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE!
A universal proverb as old as man!

NO HILLARY CANNOT UNITE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE

1. NOT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE AS BLIND AND STUPID AS SHE OBVIOUSLY THINKS THEY MUST BE.

2. MANY DEMOCRATS WHO V**ED FOR OBAMA HAVE LEARNED THE COST OF THEIR MISTAKE.

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Mar 10, 2016 14:26:58   #
Progressive One
 
Gatsby wrote:
THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE!
A universal proverb as old as man!

NO HILLARY CANNOT UNITE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BECAUSE

1. NOT ALL DEMOCRATS ARE AS BLIND AND STUPID AS SHE OBVIOUSLY THINKS THEY MUST BE.

2. MANY DEMOCRATS WHO V**ED FOR OBAMA HAVE LEARNED THE COST OF THEIR MISTAKE.



Democrats approve of Obama 90%+, your problems are not ours.

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Mar 10, 2016 14:38:07   #
Gatsby
 
PLEASE SEE POINT NUMBER 1. NOT "ALL" DEMOCRATS ARE AS BLIND AND STUPID AS SHE OBVIOUSLY THINKS THEY MUST BE.

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Mar 10, 2016 15:02:18   #
Progressive One
 
Gatsby wrote:
PLEASE SEE POINT NUMBER 1. NOT "ALL" DEMOCRATS ARE AS BLIND AND STUPID AS SHE OBVIOUSLY THINKS THEY MUST BE.


Take the 10% with you, we don't need them.

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Mar 10, 2016 15:37:21   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
So you think that Ms Clinton e******n is in the bag ? You know what ! I agree with you, It's in the bag!! For the rest of the story, click download At the bottom of the screen

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