Is Trump a Libeeral or a Conservative: I received this in my emails today. by Mychal Massie January 19, 2016 We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of...

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

I received this in my emails today. br by Mychal M... (show quote)

If people would listen to common sense like this we would get our country back in one piece.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

robmull Loc: florida

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

I received this in my emails today. br by Mychal M... (show quote)

Good article, 27, but I would like to add that the cities in America who's politics have been run by the secular liberal progressive arm of our "drive-by, state-run, alphabet channel" media, fighting conservative values with every conscious and subliminal verbiage, have seemingly done their best to usher-in the "Marx/Alinsky" ideology to destroy free-market Western culture. Just take a quick look at Baltimore, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia and so on, and understand that the top 10 cities, and 16 of the top 20 cities in America with the highest poverty, the strictest gun-control and the most violent crime rates are run by DEMOCRATS!!!

If Mr. Trump tries to disarm America as seems to ALWAYS be the Democratic program, "WE" will then know "who's on first!!!" And "WE" will ALSO know how to eliminate the problem. Our Elective Constitutional Republic seems to be working just fine, and what the 2nd Amendment and the gun-control bozos have done, swimmingly, is to grow more grass and have more than one rifle behind each blade!!! Admiral Isoroku "don't attack America's mainland because there is a rifle behind every blade of grass" Kamamoto, would certainly be proud!!! And, I believe, SO IS "THE DONALD!!!"

PZG1225 Loc: Florida

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

I received this in my emails today. br by Mychal M... (show quote)

This should be required reading for every person of v****g age in the United States! Great article!!

PZG1225 Loc: Florida

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

I received this in my emails today. br by Mychal M... (show quote)

This should be required reading for every person of v****g age in the United States! Great article!!

PeterS

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

I received this in my emails today. br by Mychal M... (show quote)

Trump is wh**ever he needs to be. He is the perfect politician.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

PeterS wrote:

Trump is wh**ever he needs to be. He is the perfect politician.

You probably did not even read one paragraph, to make such a statement.

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

"Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party."
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Here's where the article gets off into the weeds. "So-called Republican Conservatism" in this context, is not real conservatism. Real Conservatism is nothing like what is described above.

No, rather, real conservatism is a constitutionally-based principled philosophy that is antithetical to most liberal ideals, not a watered-down version of them.

What the article should've said was "Progressive Establishment Republican perspective...". BIG difference. It's the Establishment that acts like Democrat light, NOT true conservatives or conservatism.

It's the Establishment that has given Capitalism a bad name by colluding with big business and creating "Crony-Capitalism". It's the Progressives that have bastardized Capitalism. Capitalism, in itself, largely unfettered by government regulation, subsidies and interference, is the free market. Crony Capitalism is simply legalized corruption of the market (and sometimes not so legal). Donald Trump can probably hold seminars on it.

Outside of that, the article is probably closer to being accurate. I don't know, I didn't finish reading it because I couldn't get past the fallacy of the premise stated above.

Is there anyone who disagrees with my assessment?

Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

"At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative." - CORRECT...However....

"I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative." - YOU might not view him as a conservative, but DONALD has, on more than one occasion, claimed to be a CONSERVATIVE. (He's not and knows it) but he's a politician now. He says what he has to when he has to get v**es. Typical politician. Some outsider, he is. Ha!

"As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises" - YOU mean like, "I'm gonna build a uuuuuuge wall and make Mexico pay for it!!"? Like that?

"You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;" - EXCEPT that he's on record many times bragging that he will make deals. Harry Reid and Jimmy Carter have applauded him for it. What more do you need to know?

2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations:" - I'M betting the reason he doesn't want to release his tax returns is both because he has nefarious dealings with mafia guys AND he's not really worth what he says he is. Forbes estimates his wealth closer to $150M...not the $10B that Donald claims.

4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again." - EEEHHHH "I'm gonna make America Great Again", "You're gonna get so s**k of winning" blah, blah, blah...It's only all of the other politicians that are full of it.

"Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another." - TRUMP, on the other hand, is the picture of sanity. Good Granny, you Trumpsters are a gullible bunch, aren't you?

"People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure." I'M not the one confused here slick. I read this clown like a book. I***ts like you can't even put a thought together without screwing it up.

I'm exhausted just correcting all the poor spelling mistakes this guy made, much less his theory. Whoever this dumbass is, he's no professional writer. I'm guessing he works the second window at the local Burger King in town. His theory and opinions are rife with half-t***hs, misnomers, false premises and woefully obtuse.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Olden McGroen wrote:

"At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump is not a conservative." - CORRECT...However....

"I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative." - YOU might not view him as a conservative, but DONALD has, on more than one occasion, claimed to be a CONSERVATIVE. (He's not and knows it) but he's a politician now. He says what he has to when he has to get v**es. Typical politician. Some outsider, he is. Ha!

"As a pragmatist Donald Trump hasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises" - YOU mean like, "I'm gonna build a uuuuuuge wall and make Mexico pay for it!!"? Like that?

"You may not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do not like him is because: 1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;" - EXCEPT that he's on record many times bragging that he will make deals. Harry Reid and Jimmy Carter have applauded him for it. What more do you need to know?

2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations:" - I'M betting the reason he doesn't want to release his tax returns is both because he has nefarious dealings with mafia guys AND he's not really worth what he says he is. Forbes estimates his wealth closer to $150M...not the $10B that Donald claims.

4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again." - EEEHHHH "I'm gonna make America Great Again", "You're gonna get so s**k of winning" blah, blah, blah...It's only all of the other politicians that are full of it.

"Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another." - TRUMP, on the other hand, is the picture of sanity. Good Granny, you Trumpsters are a gullible bunch, aren't you?

"People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure." I'M not the one confused here slick. I read this clown like a book. I***ts like you can't even put a thought together without screwing it up.

I'm exhausted just correcting all the poor spelling mistakes this guy made, much less his theory. Whoever this dumbass is, he's no professional writer. I'm guessing he works the second window at the local Burger King in town. His theory and opinions are rife with half-t***hs, misnomers, false premises and woefully obtuse.

"At one point reference was to Donald Trump b... (show quote)

Great deal of assumptions made by you and we know you don't like Trump, how do you know what he can do,you don't.

Ricko Loc: Florida

Louie27 wrote:

I received this in my emails today.
by Mychal Massie
January 19, 2016

We recently enjoyed a belated holiday dinner with friends at the home of other friends. The dinner conservation was jocund, ranging from discussions about antique glass and china to theology and politics. At one point reference was to Donald Trump being a conservative to which I responded that Trump in not a conservative.

I said that I neither view nor do I believe Trump views himself as a conservative. I stated it was my opinion that Trump is a pragmatist. He doesn't see the problem as liberal or conservative, he sees it only as a problem. That is a quality that should be admired and applauded, not condemned. but I get ahead of myself.

Viewing problems from a liberal perspective has resulted in the creation of more problems, more entitlement programs, more victims, more attacks o the working class in all economic strata.
Viewing thing things according to the so-called Republican conservative perspective has brought continued spending, globalism to the detriment of American interests and well-being, denial of what the real problems are, weak, ineffective, milquetoast, leadership that amounts to Barney Fife Deputy sheriffs appeasement oriented and afraid of its own shadow. In brief, it has brought the liberal ideology with a pachyderm as a mascot juxtaposed to the ass of the Democratic party.
Immigration isn't a Republican problem it isn't a liberal problem it is a problem that threatens the very fabric and infrastructure of America. It demands a pragmatic approach not an approach that is intended to appease one group or another.
The impeding collapse of the economy isn't a liberal or conservative problem it is an American problem. That said, until it is viewed as a problem that demands a common sense approach to resolution, it will never be fixed because Democrats and Republicans know only one way to fix things and the longevity of their impracticality has proven to have no lasting effect. Successful businessmen like Donald Trump find ways to make things work, they do not promise to accommodate. Trump uniquely underst6ands that China's manipulation of currency is not a Republican problem or a Democrat problem. It is a problem that threatens our financial stability and he understands the proper balance needed to fix it. Here again successful businessmen like Trump who have weathered the changing tides of economic reality understand what is necessary to make business work and they, unlike both sides of the political aisle, know that if something doesn't work you don't continue trying to make it work hoping the at some point it will.
As a pragmatist Donald Trump jasn't made wild pie-in-the-sky promises of a cell phone in every pocket, free college tuition and a $15 hour minimum wage for the drive-through at Carl's Hamburgers.
I argue that America needs pragmatists because pragmatists see a problem and find ways to fix them. They do not see a problem and compound it by creating more problems.
You mayt not like Donald Trump but I suspect that the reason people do nto like his is because:1)he is antithetical to the "good old boys" method of brokering backroom deals that fatten the coffers of politicians;2)they are unaccustomed to hearing a candidate speak who is unencumbered by the financial shackles of those who own them vis-a' -vis donations: and 4)he is someone who understands that it takes more than hollow promises and political correctness to make America great again.
Listening to Hillary Clinton and Bernie sanders talk about fixing America is like listening to two lunatics trying to out crazy one another. Jeb bush and Marco Rubio are owned lock, stock, and barrel by the bankers, corporations, and other big dollar donors funding their campaigns.
We have had Democrats and Republican ideologues and what has it brought us? Are we better off today or worse off? Has it happened overnight or has it been a steady decline brought on by both parties?
I submit that a pragmatist might be just what America needs right now. And as I said earlier, a pragmatist sees a problem and understands that the solution to fix same is not about a party, but a willingness and boldness to get it done.
People are quick to confuse and despise confidence as arrogance, but that is common amongst those who have never accomplished anything in their lives and who have always played it safe and willing to risk failure.

I thought that this was a good article by Mychal Massie.

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Louie-agree that we need not be too concerned about the term "conservative" as it will once again be archived once the e******n is over. Trump is probably more moderate than he is conservative. Who gives a damn as long as , if elected, he performs for the country. We have heard the term "conservative" for the past twenty years but nothing that can be viewed as such has occurred in that same period. It is all political rhetoric and total BS. Good Luck America !!!

at41

Ricko wrote:

Louie-agree that we need not be too concerned about the term "conservative" as it will once again be archived once the e******n is over. Trump is probably more moderate than he is conservative. Who gives a damn as long as , if elected, he performs for the country. We have heard the term "conservative" for the past twenty years but nothing that can be viewed as such has occurred in that same period. It is all political rhetoric and total BS. Good Luck America !!!

Winston Churchill, whom I consider one of the best political leaders of the last century stood for Parliament under six labels: Conservative, Liberal, Coalition, Constitutionalist, Unionist, and National Conservative. So lets not get hung up on labels. V**e for the person who will do a good job for AMERICA.

Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ

at41 wrote:

Winston Churchill, whom I consider one of the best political leaders of the last century stood for Parliament under six labels: Conservative, Liberal, Coalition, Constitutionalist, Unionist, and National Conservative. So lets not get hung up on labels. V**e for the person who will do a good job for AMERICA.

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Olden McGroen Loc: Texas

Hemiman wrote:

Great deal of assumptions made by you and we know you don't like Trump, how do you know what he can do,you don't.

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Great deal of denial made by you and we know you like Trump, how do you know he has any clue how to be prez, you don't.

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Olden McGroen wrote:

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Great deal of denial made by you and we know you like Trump, how do you know he has any clue how to be prez, you don't.

At least he is not a criminal like Clinton or a nut bag like Barney the hukster.