Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

JFK'S MURDERS & PARTICIPANTS


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiqnU3rbsow

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HistorianDude

Oswald acted alone.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Oswald was a Marine with a shooting qualification of of Marksman. That is what it takes to get out of bootcamp.

The next step higher is Sharp-shooter.

I fired Expert three years in a row before I left the military.

Oswald could NOT have fired the shot that k**led Kennedy.

The angle was wrong; the degree of expertise was inadequate to manipulate the moving parts of the rifle, and the degree of expertise required for the day, the target, and the conditions takes much more than any Marksman could perform.

Carol Kelly

BALONEY?

Carol Kelly

And Oswald wasn't that smart. Thank you for an expert opinion. We need more of those.

HistorianDude

That tells us what he was fresh out of boot-camp. That says nothing about what he was on the day of the assassination.


So did I. Nine years.


These are all common JFK conspiracy tropes, none of which actually survive critical scrutiny. A Carcano is a simple bolt-action rifle that takes, frankly, very little expertise to manipulate at all. "Angles" are meaningless from the moment a bullet strikes anything in its flight path. The only relevant angle is that from the depository window to the target, and that angle was just fine.

Had the target been moving left to right across the field of vision, a successful shot would have been more difficult. But a target moving away is almost stationary in the scope.

It was really not that difficult a shot at all. And this ignores that he missed once.

HistorianDude

Since when does it require great intelligence to fire a rifle?

PeterS

Kennedy's dead so I guess he just got lucky...

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Totally bogus remark. To lever the bold action and reload the chamber, manipulate the rifle to obtain the sight-picture and fire AND hit the target, Not once, but twice, could NOT have been done in the time Oswald is alleged to have had.



The angle I am speaking of has to so with target acquisition. To go back of the head and out the front could NOT be accomplished from the height of the book store depository window; it would require a much lower firing stance.



Baloney!



Totally bogus. The trajectory of the alleged bullet from Oswald's window of station/firing platform could NOT have had the required trajectory that resulted in the factual presentation.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

Kennedy's dead, but not because of Oswald.

HistorianDude

I'm sorry, son. But that pathetic falsehood has been known to be false for more than 50 years. There were 2.3 seconds between the two rounds that hit the President. Repeated tests by at least three different sets of investigators showed that an average marksman could get off both rounds in less than 1.5 seconds and still confidently hit targets at the distance Kennedy was hit.


Now you're just making stuff up. This might be a claim that could confidently be made with an intact bullet, but since the head shot bullet fragmented after entering the cranium, the explosive fracture of the right side of the skull as pieces emerged from the head provided no possibility of measuring the "angle" you hallucinate here. There was no discrete "exit wound" that could have been used to measure one. All that said, and based upon the observation from the Zapruder film that he was leaning forward with his head turned obliquely to the left when this bullet struck, the photographs and X-rays are clear that it came from a site above and slightly to his right. Oh look... the 5th floor window of the Depository is right there.

You believe dumb stuff. And you have no excuse.

sweetlips

yeah, this carcano rifle was the worst rifle in ww2, accuracy
was terrible to say the least (look it up)a simple rifle, ok, but to you guys that haven't fired a bolt action rifle much, and i can tell by your writings,it takes a lot of practice to fire this many shots in that short of time and hit anything. It would take an expert and it would not have been easy for him.
There is a Vietnam sniper near me that i know well, he will tell you that he could not have made these shots.
so much for goverment tales.

PeterS

Where are you getting your information Theo. The shot was only 80 yards, moving slowly, and easy even for a "marksman." And the proof that the shot could be made is that Oswald made it. For all the arguments made the only one that holds up is a single shooter with a platform from the 6th floor of the school book depository. Now if it wasn't Oswald than it was someone who used the very same gun shooting from the very same window...

payne1000

No one here appears to have seen the Zapruder film which shows JFK's head knocked backwards from the force of the bullet. Oswald's location was behind JFK's position.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU83R7rpXQY

PeterS

If it was knocked backwards from the force of a bullet the back of his head would have been blow out. It wasn't, but the side of his head was blown out with an entry hold in the back. It's hard to have been shot from the front, or side, when the entry was in the back. Had the bullet been two inches to the right it would have missed completely. Oswald got off a lucky shot and nothing more. You are also forgetting that for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. His brains blew out the side of his head with such force that like a rocket--it drove his head backwards and to the left...