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Oct 17, 2013 10:37:24   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Confused wrote:
Part of the deficit is because of fraud . A certain lawyer gets a certain judge and presto you are eligible . Depression over the loss of your girlfriend is not a permanent disability . Second the outsourcing of 7 million jobs . Take away the funding and any program has trouble . The COLA you mention is a joke . Inflation takes away any current raises . The price of rent and health care alone is well above the current 2 % COLA . Agreed , Medicare is a whole different story . Perhaps we should limit it to actual US citizens . Just a thought . Another might be to end the revolving door policy from government to lobbyists .
Part of the deficit is because of fraud . A certai... (show quote)


Hey Confused, you are right on the money. The fraud that exists in the SSA is just as bad as the welfare department. I am not accusing individuals, but simply the gross enterprise. It is ridiculous that we won't allow Ryan Paul to dig into this, but Republicrats are more interested in getting a scared seniors v**e than addressing the fraud. Hopefully the infrastructure improvements help out waste, fraud and abuse of the Mitch McConnels of the world.
See my Wall St. Journal article below.

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Oct 17, 2013 12:34:03   #
Confused
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Please read this and stop quoting interest rates and bankers incomes-here are just some of the facts. Retirees need to get their finances in order. Our government doesn't demonstrate any constraint or accountability but as a tax payer we can. See attached article.


Complete bulls**t !

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Oct 17, 2013 12:47:44   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Confused wrote:
Complete bulls**t !


No: you are complete bulls**t.

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Oct 17, 2013 13:01:30   #
RWhiteRN
 
Confused, and others posting on this thread; the only consideration one need make is the fact that the Social Security trust holds more of the national debt than the top two foreign investor nations (China and Japan) combined. America would benefit greatly from a stoppage of playing the part of World police force and perhaps curtailing the blank check defense (The ability to project overwhelming military power anywhere on the globe) spending. I guess that 60 plus years of $400 billion per year mean spending is not enough. Zero spoils of war for $25.2 trillion seems a bit like a waste of money, oh my bad it is the old, poor, and disabled that are breaking this nation, right. If one is concerned about fraud and waste one may care to scrutinize civilian defense contractors.

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Oct 17, 2013 14:33:19   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Confused wrote:
Every once in a while I run across a comment so outrageous I have to comment . Yours is such a comment . S.S. is continual funded with the payroll tax deduction THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE PARTICIPANTS . It is NOT now or ever has been a government entitlement . Stop payments ? WHY , it is OUR money jackass .


An entitlement is not a dirty word...you paid for it....it is therefore an entitlement. Look it up in the dictionary.

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Oct 17, 2013 14:52:36   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
AnnMarie wrote:
Well, you better start v****g democratic-the Koch brothers and the tea baggers they get elected are going to cut social security to cut taxes for the rich. That will be the "grand bargain" the republicans will make Obama agree to-cutting SS


AnnMarie - I am disappointed that you'd continue to use a homphobic slur to describe people with different opinions - despite your holier than thou protestations, you are crude and ugly for it.

As to what tea party folks stand for, you are as misinformed on that subject as you are misfiring in you slurs.

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Oct 17, 2013 15:17:35   #
Confused
 
Dave wrote:
AnnMarie - I am disappointed that you'd continue to use a homphobic slur to describe people with different opinions - despite your holier than thou protestations, you are crude and ugly for it.

As to what tea party folks stand for, you are as misinformed on that subject as you are misfiring in you slurs.


Since when did they adopt the phrase of teabagger as h********c . I guess that is another part of the gay agenda to redefine the English language as they see fit . Absolutely pathetic ... First off , the TEA Party as they called themselves was Taxed Enough Already . A definition that needed no interpretation . Secondly I will assume for the sake of argument , since you brought it up , that you are referring to a sexual act that needs no defining . That particular act has been around for a very long time and as a straight recipient I can say is very enjoyable . Yea , girls do it too ... Who's " phobic " now ?
Keep your comments on topic so this site doesn't turn into another Yahoo answers ...
The TEA Party has been hijacked and set off course by the Koch money and the stupidity of a single issue stopping the ACA . Koch bought and paid for the Cruzade because one thing any Koch wants off the table is HIS government subsidies in the form off huge tax loopholes . Hopefuilly the TEA Party can find someone without the baggage of Cruz , Lee , Bachmann , et al whose only cause is publicity and the diversion of the Koch message and get back to the original intent OF CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES that are currently $ 2.8 trillion a year that rob the treasury of " We The People " . I as an Independent surely would support such serious effort . Why people don't stand up and demand a proposal such as Simpson / Bowles is a mystery politically . We don't need to change the Constitution and their diversion of a balanced budget amendment , we need to change Washington ...

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Oct 17, 2013 15:42:52   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Confused wrote:
Since when did they adopt the phrase of teabagger as h********c . I guess that is another part of the gay agenda to redefine the English language as they see fit . Absolutely pathetic ... First off , the TEA Party as they called themselves was Taxed Enough Already . A definition that needed no interpretation . Secondly I will assume for the sake of argument , since you brought it up , that you are referring to a sexual act that needs no defining . That particular act has been around for a very long time and as a straight recipient I can say is very enjoyable . Yea , girls do it too ... Who's " phobic " now ?
Keep your comments on topic so this site doesn't turn into another Yahoo answers ...
The TEA Party has been hijacked and set off course by the Koch money and the stupidity of a single issue stopping the ACA . Koch bought and paid for the Cruzade because one thing any Koch wants off the table is HIS government subsidies in the form off huge tax loopholes . Hopefuilly the TEA Party can find someone without the baggage of Cruz , Lee , Bachmann , et al whose only cause is publicity and the diversion of the Koch message and get back to the original intent OF CLOSING TAX LOOPHOLES that are currently $ 2.8 trillion a year that rob the treasury of " We The People " . I as an Independent surely would support such serious effort . Why people don't stand up and demand a proposal such as Simpson / Bowles is a mystery politically . We don't need to change the Constitution and their diversion of a balanced budget amendment , we need to change Washington ...
Since when did they adopt the phrase of teabagger... (show quote)


You have no idea why the % is important? What if it were a hundred %? What would it mean if it were 0.05%? (40% of children made poor choices being born?)

Anderson Cooper, before he came out, used that snide slur to describe honest American citizens that he wanted to insult. If you don't know that, so be it, but that is the origin of using that particular intended insult for the Taxed Enough Already supporters.

I, too, am straight - and I did not start this - a gay liberal did.

The idea that the Koch brothers have hijacked the tea party movement has no more validity that the allegation that Soros hijacked the Obama movement. Both are mindless attempts to keep people from thinking of issues and focusing on personalities and envy.

As an independent I too support Simpson-Bowles - and let's remember who has the most responsibility to advance such ideas - the president who asked them to make the recommendations, not the Koch Brothers (or Soros).

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Oct 17, 2013 18:31:56   #
Confused
 
Dave wrote:
You have no idea why the % is important? What if it were a hundred %? What would it mean if it were 0.05%? (40% of children made poor choices being born?)

Anderson Cooper, before he came out, used that snide slur to describe honest American citizens that he wanted to insult. If you don't know that, so be it, but that is the origin of using that particular intended insult for the Taxed Enough Already supporters.

I, too, am straight - and I did not start this - a gay liberal did.

The idea that the Koch brothers have hijacked the tea party movement has no more validity that the allegation that Soros hijacked the Obama movement. Both are mindless attempts to keep people from thinking of issues and focusing on personalities and envy.

As an independent I too support Simpson-Bowles - and let's remember who has the most responsibility to advance such ideas - the president who asked them to make the recommendations, not the Koch Brothers (or Soros).
You have no idea why the % is important? What if i... (show quote)

It was the President who promptly dismissed a total year of the most thought out proposal from two of the smartest men in America that included spending limits and revenue increases and they had the full support of all Republicans . Paul Ryan , who along with Eric Cantor serve the hedge fund managers , served on the committee and walked out the door and v**ed against it . Tax reform is a third rail . WHERE in any of the Koch bought Cruzade did any of them mention taxes . It was a single issue and labeling it Obamacare made it d******e left / right and of course black / white . It kept Sharpton in business .." Their " message was clear . The Taxed Enough Already movement was most certainly hijacked .. Even as poorly as Medicare is financially the dollar amounts pale in comparison to tax loopholes .

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Oct 17, 2013 22:15:34   #
Quizzal Loc: TN
 
jasfourth401 - I did forget the other disabled that get SS also. You are right on this. I am sorry for not mentioning them as well. SS belongs to everyone that pays into the system, but still does not belong to the federal government.
Dummy Boy - I cannot say what others have to spend their SS on, but it is their own business since it is their money. I, myself, have to pay for food, clothing, housing, utilities, etc. and I do not nor can afford a car. I do get $16 in food stamps tho. But can you help me out just how to make this $16 last for the entire month? And, as yet, I am not on welfare (hope and pray to God that I never have to), so that is -0- amount for me concerning that.
I am not smart enough to quote percentages on anything. I just do not believe that the federal government has any right at all to even think about taking away our SS to all of those that have paid into it.

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Oct 18, 2013 08:13:18   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Confused wrote:
It was the President who promptly dismissed a total year of the most thought out proposal from two of the smartest men in America that included spending limits and revenue increases and they had the full support of all Republicans . Paul Ryan , who along with Eric Cantor serve the hedge fund managers , served on the committee and walked out the door and v**ed against it . Tax reform is a third rail . WHERE in any of the Koch bought Cruzade did any of them mention taxes . It was a single issue and labeling it Obamacare made it d******e left / right and of course black / white . It kept Sharpton in business .." Their " message was clear . The Taxed Enough Already movement was most certainly hijacked .. Even as poorly as Medicare is financially the dollar amounts pale in comparison to tax loopholes .
It was the President who promptly dismissed a tota... (show quote)


I see why you call yourself confused.

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Oct 18, 2013 08:29:58   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
Quizzal wrote:
jasfourth401 - I did forget the other disabled that get SS also. You are right on this. I am sorry for not mentioning them as well. SS belongs to everyone that pays into the system, but still does not belong to the federal government.
Dummy Boy - I cannot say what others have to spend their SS on, but it is their own business since it is their money. I, myself, have to pay for food, clothing, housing, utilities, etc. and I do not nor can afford a car. I do get $16 in food stamps tho. But can you help me out just how to make this $16 last for the entire month? And, as yet, I am not on welfare (hope and pray to God that I never have to), so that is -0- amount for me concerning that.
I am not smart enough to quote percentages on anything. I just do not believe that the federal government has any right at all to even think about taking away our SS to all of those that have paid into it.
jasfourth401 - I did forget the other disabled tha... (show quote)


What did you pay into S.S.? What are you owed? The average recipient paid in far less than their entitlement. I'm not suggesting that it is fair, but what is unfair are those who have no need for such benefits due to other income "streams". Each department needs to offer real savings. The SSA needs to start negotiating those benefits-look at this way, sounds to me like you need more money. Why should my parents receive that same amount of money, in that, he has 3 other income streams? How is that fair to you. The social security administration has misused these funds long enough and it needs to stop.

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Oct 18, 2013 08:50:01   #
Confused
 
Dave wrote:
I see why you call yourself confused.


The name was carefully chosen . For those with the ability to form an intelligent answer it doesn't matter . For those without the capacity for an intelligent answer to the discussion they can just quip about the name . As you can see for yourself , it works ..

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Oct 18, 2013 11:35:17   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Confused wrote:
The name was carefully chosen . For those with the ability to form an intelligent answer it doesn't matter . For those without the capacity for an intelligent answer to the discussion they can just quip about the name . As you can see for yourself , it works ..


Your last post shows real confusion - saying one thing in one sentance then something opposite in the next - or perhaps you don't know who is and is not Republican

You say all Republicans supported it, then in the next sentance say Ryan and Cantor opposed it - if that doesn't show you to be confused nothing will.

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Oct 18, 2013 12:33:28   #
Confused
 
Dave wrote:
Your last post shows real confusion - saying one thing in one sentance then something opposite in the next - or perhaps you don't know who is and is not Republican

You say all Republicans supported it, then in the next sentance say Ryan and Cantor opposed it - if that doesn't show you to be confused nothing will.


Look at the v****g RECORD of Paul Ryan . Some people do research .
Do you need to replay the media tapes ? Yes , Republican economic guru , Paul Ryan , served on the Simpson / Bowles Commission and immediately v**ed AGAINST IT because it closed tax loopholes . Revenue increases .
You can expect the Republicans to continue there long standing of protecting tax loopholes to the wealthiest among us . The Koch brothers and Exxon do .
Cantor , for lack of political correctness , is a hedge fund stooge known for his lunches with the managers and has been a leader in the effort TO STALL WALL ST. REFORM ... Because of people like Eric Cantor the " too big to fail " banks are BIGGER than ever and with Glass / Steagal gone they invent new " financial instruments " every year .
Both men cow tow to the banking lobbyists .
Another subject for you to research ...

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