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What did the teatards get for shutting down the government?
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Oct 16, 2013 18:32:06   #
BoJester
 
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, Delay the ACA? NO, repeal the medical device tax? no, remove congressional subsidies? no, in fact the only thing the teatards got was already part of the law, and that is income verificatin. Seems like the teatards paid a very steep price to get so little. The teatards, led by cruz the loser, should have read Sun Tzu, since the battle was lost before it was fought. But it was great outcome for the president and the American people.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/16/2792761/republicans-shutting-government/

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Oct 16, 2013 19:21:20   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I wonder if The Tea Party will learn to heed the advice of the seasoned Republican establishment? Will they continue to disrupt the House or stand behind the established leadership? Will The Tea Party supporters fade away now that they've learned that the promises made to them never had a chance of being fulfilled? Will it make them wonder if any promises made by The Tea Party can ever be fulfilled?
BoJester wrote:
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, .... The teatards, led by cruz the loser, should have read Sun Tzu, since the battle was lost before it was fought. But it was great outcome for the president and the American people.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/16/2792761/republicans-shutting-government/

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Oct 16, 2013 20:04:15   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
Michael Needham, President, Heritage Action is confident The Tea Party will prevail. The next opportunity is 2017 with a Republican in the WH and in control of both houses of congress.

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/heritage-action-obamacare-repeal-2017-98396.html

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Oct 16, 2013 20:36:53   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
BoJester wrote:
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, Delay the ACA? NO, repeal the medical device tax? no, remove congressional subsidies? no, in fact the only thing the teatards got was already part of the law, and that is income verificatin. Seems like the teatards paid a very steep price to get so little. The teatards, led by cruz the loser, should have read Sun Tzu, since the battle was lost before it was fought. But it was great outcome for the president and the American people.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/16/2792761/republicans-shutting-government/
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, Delay the ... (show quote)

That little skirmish was the Alamo Bo!! The battle of San-Jacinto is coming!!

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Oct 16, 2013 20:58:28   #
Whatamess Loc: SC
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I wonder if The Tea Party will learn to heed the advice of the seasoned Republican establishment? Will they continue to disrupt the House or stand behind the established leadership? Will The Tea Party supporters fade away now that they've learned that the promises made to them never had a chance of being fulfilled? Will it make them wonder if any promises made by The Tea Party can ever be fulfilled?


They will fulfill the promises made..they already have...they stood up and did what they promised the people that elected them they would do....they fought against Obamacare...they promised they would...and they did. It's not always about winning or losing, it's how you fought the battle, and the Teaparty fought with integrity.

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Oct 16, 2013 21:44:43   #
rcksha
 
Whatamess wrote:
They will fulfill the promises made..they already have...they stood up and did what they promised the people that elected them they would do....they fought against Obamacare...they promised they would...and they did. It's not always about winning or losing, it's how you fought the battle, and the Teaparty fought with integrity.


Refer to the Tea Party if you like. These individuals were elected by their constituency to represent them on the issues of the people. These people being called radical and unreasonable are perhaps the most credible elected representatives in Congress. They don't fall to the "Good ol' Boy" pit that have no interest in what their constituency wants, but want to tell them what they need. As long as there is something in it for them that is.
Obviously, when the public feels strong enough to make a change there is something wrong in the way things are being done.
I, for one, wish the representatives of our state had the kahoonies to stand up like they are. Shame on Congress and those who can't respect that these people are strong enough to stand for their beliefs.

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Oct 16, 2013 21:59:20   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rcksha wrote:
Refer to the Tea Party if you like. These individuals were elected by their constituency to represent them on the issues of the people. These people being called radical and unreasonable are perhaps the most credible elected representatives in Congress. They don't fall to the "Good ol' Boy" pit that have no interest in what their constituency wants, but want to tell them what they need. As long as there is something in it for them that is.
Obviously, when the public feels strong enough to make a change there is something wrong in the way things are being done.
I, for one, wish the representatives of our state had the kahoonies to stand up like they are. Shame on Congress and those who can't respect that these people are strong enough to stand for their beliefs.
Refer to the Tea Party if you like. These individu... (show quote)


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Oct 16, 2013 22:10:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I wonder if The Tea Party will learn to heed the advice of the seasoned Republican establishment? Will they continue to disrupt the House or stand behind the established leadership? Will The Tea Party supporters fade away now that they've learned that the promises made to them never had a chance of being fulfilled? Will it make them wonder if any promises made by The Tea Party can ever be fulfilled?


Those "seasoned Republicans" are at least partially to blame for our enormous debt as well as the SPYING on the American people. You seem to be happy with this but a lot of conservatives, increasingly, are not.

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Oct 16, 2013 22:18:15   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I wonder if The Tea Party will learn to heed the advice of the seasoned Republican establishment? Will they continue to disrupt the House or stand behind the established leadership? Will The Tea Party supporters fade away now that they've learned that the promises made to them never had a chance of being fulfilled? Will it make them wonder if any promises made by The Tea Party can ever be fulfilled?


If any of the elected Tea Party members EVER join with the elitist establishment Rino's they will be replaced at the very next e******n with other Patriots.

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Oct 16, 2013 22:24:18   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I wonder how that will play? So, standing up for what you believe when you know the outcome will fail and only cause unnecessary problems will be okay? When folks look back at this, they may see that it was unnecessary, resulted in nothing, caused a lot of embarrassment for the nation and wasted a lot of money. I think it is important to declare victory and state that you stood on principle after a loss. But you can get away with that only a few times. There is only so much failure that supporters can face. Who wants to always be on a losing side? The facts of this event will be played in future campaigns as having zero results, and cheerleading "hurrahs" will go only so far when faced with opponents who shame you for wasting $28 billion for a principled stand. I'm thinking moderates will have a hay day embarrassing the incumbent far right in primaries.

rcksha wrote:
Refer to the Tea Party if you like. These individuals were elected by their constituency to represent them on the issues of the people. These people being called radical and unreasonable are perhaps the most credible elected representatives in Congress. They don't fall to the "Good ol' Boy" pit that have no interest in what their constituency wants, but want to tell them what they need. As long as there is something in it for them that is.
Obviously, when the public feels strong enough to make a change there is something wrong in the way things are being done.
I, for one, wish the representatives of our state had the kahoonies to stand up like they are. Shame on Congress and those who can't respect that these people are strong enough to stand for their beliefs.
Refer to the Tea Party if you like. These individu... (show quote)

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Oct 16, 2013 22:25:47   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
BoJester wrote:
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, Delay the ACA? NO, repeal the medical device tax? no, remove congressional subsidies? no, in fact the only thing the teatards got was already part of the law, and that is income verificatin. Seems like the teatards paid a very steep price to get so little. The teatards, led by cruz the loser, should have read Sun Tzu, since the battle was lost before it was fought. But it was great outcome for the president and the American people.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/10/16/2792761/republicans-shutting-government/
Repeal the ACA? NO, Defund the ACA? NO, Delay the ... (show quote)


Cockadoodle doooo! Like you, I don't think this little exercise has gone well for the Republicans, and to a much lesser degree than you, I get some perverse satisfaction in it. Unlike you, I kinda think its going to be good for the Republicans in the long run. They needed to learn to be less afraid of getting their ass kicked, and getting their ass kicked is just part of the process. I still think the Democrats are all about making as many people as they can dependent on the government and buying their v**es with free stuff that they extort from those of us who are productive, but, that's another post.

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Oct 16, 2013 22:27:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I wonder how that will play? So, standing up for what you believe when you know the outcome will fail and only cause unnecessary problems will be okay? When folks look back at this, they may see that it was unnecessary, resulted in nothing, caused a lot of embarrassment for the nation and wasted a lot of money. I think it is important to declare victory and state that you stood on principle after a loss. But you can get away with that only a few times. There is only so much failure that supporters can face. Who wants to always be on a losing side? The facts of this event will be played in future campaigns as having zero results, and cheerleading "hurrahs" will go only so far when faced with opponents who shame you for wasting $28 billion for a principled stand. I'm thinking moderates will have a hay day embarrassing the incumbent far right in primaries.
I wonder how that will play? So, standing up for ... (show quote)


Does the name "Quisling" ring a bell?

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Oct 16, 2013 22:30:46   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
If any of the elected Tea Party members EVER join with the elitist establishment Rino's they will be replaced at the very next e******n with other Patriots.


I detect an idea that this is over and we can all get back to business as usual. Someone's in for a surprise.

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Oct 16, 2013 22:32:05   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Whatamess wrote:
They will fulfill the promises made..they already have...they stood up and did what they promised the people that elected them they would do....they fought against Obamacare...they promised they would...and they did. It's not always about winning or losing, it's how you fought the battle, and the Teaparty fought with integrity.


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Oct 16, 2013 22:36:16   #
rcksha
 
UncleJesse wrote:
I wonder how that will play? So, standing up for what you believe when you know the outcome will fail and only cause unnecessary problems will be okay? When folks look back at this, they may see that it was unnecessary, resulted in nothing, caused a lot of embarrassment for the nation and wasted a lot of money. I think it is important to declare victory and state that you stood on principle after a loss. But you can get away with that only a few times. There is only so much failure that supporters can face. Who wants to always be on a losing side? The facts of this event will be played in future campaigns as having zero results, and cheerleading "hurrahs" will go only so far when faced with opponents who shame you for wasting $28 billion for a principled stand. I'm thinking moderates will have a hay day embarrassing the incumbent far right in primaries.
I wonder how that will play? So, standing up for ... (show quote)


What's 28 million, Obummer spends 4 times that on vacation. Which is more important to our people?

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