Oh I realize the problem but Congress doesn't wish to address it. It would tear the democrat block to shreds.
SD wrote:
Again think of all the money the government can save by stating, we will give you baby formula, baby food and diapers and that is it. Now if the mother wants to work, fine the government will help in child care, but the boss must sign off each week to prove the mother is working and that the mother is paying taxes as well. Nothing is never free. Put some stiffer laws into place, the government can do anything they want, look at the smoking laws and child protection laws.
Another thing the women need to learn, for a man why buy the cow when I can get the milk for free.. ha ha
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Is ethically and morally correct to believe in the life style to continue to have children just to collect on welfare money?
Have you every lived next to a person who lives on welfare and is damn proud of it, and has no intentions of getting off the system because the money is better than working at McDonalds?
The government does not give them the incentive to get off the system either. Nor does it force people off until the children are 18 years of age.
Why
SD wrote:
Is ethically and morally correct to believe in the life style to continue to have children just to collect on welfare money?
Have you every lived next to a person who lives on welfare and is damn proud of it, and has no intentions of getting off the system because the money is better than working at McDonalds?
The government does not give them the incentive to get off the system either. Nor does it force people off until the children are 18 years of age.
Why
As a landlord and property manager for the past 3o yrs. I have this experience:
1-- No income --free rent under section 8 housing program.
2-- Utilities support
3-- free cell phones
4-- cash allowance--amount according to how many children.
4--$200-500 food stamps depending on # of children.
5--access to multiple charity food banks.
6-- Access to USDA food direct give away program.
7-- free access to ERs.
8--Reduced utility rates.
9-- Free heating oil/propane assistance during winter.
10-- Free weather stripping of their homes.
11 --Free school breakfast and lunches
12-- Free tuition at college.
13-- Free grants to attend school. 50% don't finish. The wasted amounts are into the millions if not billions. All for the cause to bring the poor out of poverty and it is a total waste of tax payers money. If they bail out before graduating they should have to pay it back or work on the chain gang. If I were president that's what they would doooooo!!!!!!!!!!
14-- And this list is not all inclusive. Your phone bill has charges for the free phones. Your utility bill is higher because of the subsidies
Billhuggins wrote:
As a landlord and property manager for the past 3o yrs. I have this experience:
1-- No income --free rent under section 8 housing program.
2-- Utilities support
3-- free cell phones
4-- cash allowance--amount according to how many children.
4--$200-500 food stamps depending on # of children.
5--access to multiple charity food banks.
6-- Access to USDA food direct give away program.
7-- free access to ERs.
8--Reduced utility rates.
9-- Free heating oil/propane assistance during winter.
10-- Free weather stripping of their homes.
11 --Free school breakfast and lunches
12-- Free tuition at college.
13-- Free grants to attend school. 50% don't finish. The wasted amounts are into the millions if not billions. All for the cause to bring the poor out of poverty and it is a total waste of tax payers money. If they bail out before graduating they should have to pay it back or work on the chain gang. If I were president that's what they would doooooo!!!!!!!!!!
14-- And this list is not all inclusive. Your phone bill has charges for the free phones. Your utility bill is higher because of the subsidies
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No forgiveness because they have ens***ed the working men and women. S***ery was abolished in 1864. But now the black folk and the low class others included have ens***e3d the taxpayers with the taxpayers consent to be ens***ed. It's a strange world. Christians believe in helping others but when they take advantage of a program they should be cut off and punished.
Billhuggins wrote:
No forgiveness because they have ens***ed the working men and women. S***ery was abolished in 1864. But now the black folk and the low class others included have ens***e3d the taxpayers with the taxpayers consent to be ens***ed. It's a strange world. Christians believe in helping others but when they take advantage of a program they should be cut off and punished.
I always felt if anyone was collecting let them work for it, maybe than they would get a job for better pay. I agree about paying back money if you are not going to graduate, but have that up front before you even apply... a contract. They now have parents signing multiple contracts on what they will do with their children so they are successful in school,how they're expected to behave,etc.,so what's wrong with the commitment that your going to finish what you start from a college bound student.
Billhuggins wrote:
I fully agree.
What needs to be reviewed is what is a need vs. a want. Cell phones is not a need to survive its a want just like driving car, its a want not a need to survive.
Harder times are coming and more are looking for a free ride and we as tax payers are going home each month with less while the free loaders are getting more because our government says poor children, think of the children. I say give the kid a rough childhood, mine was not that nice either but I survived because the tough will survive and the weak will die off.
need to break this cycle and get on with the American people of living right vs. free loading. Morals are gone is what happened, it is not preached anywhere anymore not in school, home or in the church. Sick
SD wrote:
need to break this cycle and get on with the American people of living right vs. free loading. Morals are gone is what happened, it is not preached anywhere anymore not in school, home or in the church. Sick
You are a man of my heart.
SD wrote:
What needs to be reviewed is what is a need vs. a want. Cell phones is not a need to survive its a want just like driving car, its a want not a need to survive.
Harder times are coming and more are looking for a free ride and we as tax payers are going home each month with less while the free loaders are getting more because our government says poor children, think of the children. I say give the kid a rough childhood, mine was not that nice either but I survived because the tough will survive and the weak will die off.
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Amen!!
:thumbup: :thumbup: If you are able bodied, and want to eat, WORK!!!!!
That is the key word able bodied, some people get doctors to sign off to become eligible for SSI which is a fraud claim. But the doctors just get sick and tired of dealing with theses types of people. Maybe instead of going a person's family doctor, this person should have to visit the government doctor and not just one but three. Run complete test but first confirm he or she is able to pay for it first if not, o too bad - first need the money then come back. Then we get the lovely Obama care that is to kick in which is another joke. We could go on and on about this subject and nothing every gets done only more money is thrown that direction which the middle man pays the ways of the so called poor. They are living a better life than I and soon there will be 100 people on welfare for everyone one working american.
SD wrote:
That is the key word able bodied, some people get doctors to sign off to become eligible for SSI which is a fraud claim. But the doctors just get sick and tired of dealing with theses types of people. Maybe instead of going a person's family doctor, this person should have to visit the government doctor and not just one but three. Run complete test but first confirm he or she is able to pay for it first if not, o too bad - first need the money then come back. Then we get the lovely Obama care that is to kick in which is another joke. We could go on and on about this subject and nothing every gets done only more money is thrown that direction which the middle man pays the ways of the so called poor. They are living a better life than I and soon there will be 100 people on welfare for everyone one working american.
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Yep! It can't last forever though. It is going to get bad I think. Whats going to happen when a million of these people are squealing?
archie bunker wrote:
Yep! It can't last forever though. It is going to get bad I think. Whats going to happen when a million of these people are squealing?
2013--The gov will have confiscated the biggest ripoff in history, 2.7 trillion while spending 3.55 trillion. And the Democrats and RINOS behind the scenes have conspired to raise taxes (revenue) even higher. There is no national det. The ND is a lie. The Fed. is printing 85 billion a month and giving it to the gov. The gov gives the Fed IOUs ( BONDS). The interest on the nation debt is 20 billion a month so there was never a problem of defaulting on the ND. With every 85 billion printed causes the circulating money supply to be worth 85 billion less. That's a big hit on small savers. One day soon the big lie will go bust.
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