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Tim Cook Is No Alan Turing
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Feb 26, 2016 12:41:00   #
CarolSeer2016
 
'Nuff said.

Except this:

If Apple could have done something, but didn't, and any member of my family is k**led or even hurt by terrorists, then Tim Cook is a dead man.

By the way, SOMEBODY cracked the Enigma Code!!

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Feb 26, 2016 12:48:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
'Nuff said.

Except this:

If Apple could have done something, but didn't, and any member of my family is k**led or even hurt by terrorists, then Tim Cook is a dead man.

By the way, SOMEBODY cracked the Enigma Code!!


I think that Apple certainly could do it but doesn't want it in the hands of the gumint. The info I have is that the request is such that what Apple does can be imitated on others.

Given the things the FBI and other intelligence org's can do and are capable of doing, I am doubting their sincerity in this matter and would continue to side with Apple on their resistance. You have no idea what they are capable of.

Why won't they let Apple do it in their own labs and simply hand over the info. I'd be good with that.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:00:01   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I think that Apple certainly could do it but doesn't want it in the hands of the gumint. The info I have is that the request is such that what Apple does can be imitated on others.

Given the things the FBI and other intelligence org's can do and are capable of doing, I am doubting their sincerity in this matter and would continue to side with Apple on their resistance. You have no idea what they are capable of.

Why won't they let Apple do it in their own labs and simply hand over the info. I'd be good with that.
I think that Apple certainly could do it but doesn... (show quote)
I don't that a problem with that either. There will be new generations of i-phones anyway, and there will always be new encryption (and/or unencryption) methods.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:02:39   #
CarolSeer2016
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I think that Apple certainly could do it but doesn't want it in the hands of the gumint. The info I have is that the request is such that what Apple does can be imitated on others.

Given the things the FBI and other intelligence org's can do and are capable of doing, I am doubting their sincerity in this matter and would continue to side with Apple on their resistance. You have no idea what they are capable of.

Why won't they let Apple do it in their own labs and simply hand over the info. I'd be good with that.
I think that Apple certainly could do it but doesn... (show quote)


Maybe Apple is waiting for some evil mathematical genius (such as myself) to crack those files.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:11:01   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Maybe Apple is waiting for some evil mathematical genius (such as myself) to crack those files.
Maybe you could volunteer and save everyone a lot of grief.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:12:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
Maybe Apple is waiting for some evil mathematical genius (such as myself) to crack those files.


Well there you go! Speaking of Enigma, so one ever broke the Navajo code. Or was it Sioux? Or ? ? ?

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Feb 26, 2016 13:13:53   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Well there you go! Speaking of Enigma, so one ever broke the Navajo code. Or was it Sioux? Or ? ? ?
Right, the Windtalkers! I can't remember what tribe it was either.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:17:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
LAPhil wrote:
Right, the Windtalkers! I can't remember what tribe it was either.


Here's an unofficial version I just looked up.

http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-navajo-code-talkers.htm

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Feb 26, 2016 13:18:40   #
CarolSeer2016
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Well there you go! Speaking of Enigma, so one ever broke the Navajo code. Or was it Sioux? Or ? ? ?


It was Choctaw, initially. Never heard that either the Japanese or the Germans learned those languages. Didn't even know they were languages.

I wonder if Native American languages are similar to some Mongol languages?

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Feb 26, 2016 13:19:26   #
CarolSeer2016
 
LAPhil wrote:
Right, the Windtalkers! I can't remember what tribe it was either.


Choctaws, (of which I am one) were the original code-talkers, in World War I.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:19:57   #
CarolSeer2016
 
LAPhil wrote:
Maybe you could volunteer and save everyone a lot of grief.


I work for a different intelligence agency.

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Feb 26, 2016 13:21:11   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
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Feb 26, 2016 13:21:47   #
LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
CarolSeer2016 wrote:
I work for a different intelligence agency.
Are you sworn to total secrecy?

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Feb 26, 2016 13:28:56   #
CarolSeer2016
 
LAPhil wrote:
Are you sworn to total secrecy?


Why do you ask?

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Feb 26, 2016 13:31:13   #
CarolSeer2016
 
LAPhil wrote:
Maybe you could volunteer and save everyone a lot of grief.


LAP, try reading between the lines.

There may be those with horrid world-views who could crack some of Apple's back doors (even some teenage hacks, a la "War Garmes") and wreak total destruction on the rest of us.

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