Paid trolls. Ray Wolfe, Cool Breeze, Turdnest does it fit? If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

son of witless

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

Paid troll. Sounds like nice work.

CowboyMilt

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

Good job WND trolls be damned! More of Obamaism isn't needed...GO TRUMP 2016 & 2020...OORAH!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I think you may have left off a few other names that also fit this profile. Nasty little people with shallow minds.

Thank you for the informative post!

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Little Ball of Hate

CowboyMilt wrote:

Good job WND trolls be damned! More of Obamaism isn't needed...GO TRUMP 2016 & 2020...OORAH!

I doubt that there are any on this site. The usual suspects are not good enough to be paid for it. :twisted:

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Little Ball of H**e wrote:

I doubt that there are any on this site. The usual suspects are not good enough to be paid for it. :twisted:

Well, the three I mentioned seem to get a lot of responses. Ray is obsessed with that. He may be a competitive troll. Maybe they get paid for numbers? I'm just guessing.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

There are several of those here. One recently was finally fired, or run off, or something - but there be plenty left. :?

Doc110 Loc: York PA

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

A takeoff on the attributes of a Professional Troll on the OPP Forum Enjoy . . .

Typically, trolls operating on OPP Forums attempt to defend Obama by posting specious and diversionary arguments with the goal of changing the subject and obscuring topics that could damage Obama, such as his birth records, life narrative, political history and policy preferences, including his current positions as president.

Particularly offensive is the proclivity of trolls to use obscene or blasphemous language mixed with personal invective.

Repeat offenders

Trolls operate on OPP Forums under various identities, often using the same IP address but with different usernames and email addresses.

One troll who was banned from participating in OPP Forums, was found to have posted more than 4,794 comments over 664 days on a wide range of websites in addition to OPP Forums.[/i]

Another posted 3,575 comments over 560 days on website forums in addition to OPP Forums that ranged from CNN to Fox News.

A third troll posted more than 10,000 comments on various user forums, including 4,306 on Fox News alone.

A fourth posting under different usernames used various email addresses and nine different IP addresses to post 15,200 comments over 787 days on OPP Forum and Fox News, as well as several smaller news websites, some of which had a local focus or interest.

Many of the trolls banned from participating in OPP forums appear to have been operating on a professional level.

Some could be l*****t plants whose purpose is to damage the reputation of OPP Forum by posing as supporters and utilizing offensive language and making obscene claims or suggestions.

Categories of abuse

Trolls use a wide variety of strategies, some of which are unique to the Internet, including these:

Making outrageous comments designed to distract or frustrate.

This is a Saul Alinsky-style tactic employed to stir emotion and angry reactions.

Posing as a conservative and making comments that discredit the movement.

After claiming to be a member of the movement, such as a tea party organization, the troll then proceeds to post long, incoherent diatribes to appear either r****t or insane.

In some cases, these Trojan Horse Trolls have been known to make posts that advocate or incite to the use of violence in an apparent attempt to provide evidence to l*****t critics and government sources that the right is comprised of radical extremists.

Dominating discussions.

Trolls may attempt to throw a discussion off course and frustrate participants whose purpose is to engage in a serious and respectful exchange of views.

Posting prewritten responses.

Many trolls appear to have been supplied with a list or database of pre-planned talking points designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments.

When trolls post prewritten responses, their words typically feel strangely plastic and rehearsed.

Making false associations.

In this technique, the position of honest posters is characterized in derogatory terms.

For example, a troll may call advocates of Federal Reserve reform or abolition conspiracy theorists or lunatics.

Or, by suggesting certain political arguments are r****t or otherwise outside the accepted confines of serious political discourse, trolls attempt to dissuade readers from examining the evidence objectively.

Exhibiting false moderation.

By pretending to be the voice of reason in an argument with obvious well-defined sides, trolls attempt to move readers to relegate the argument to a gray area, such that holding or seriously considering the argument is a leap away from reasoned judgment.

Raising straw-man fallacy arguments.

Here a troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if the argument is irrelevant and never actually raised.

Professional trolls

OPP Forum moderators have developed criteria for helping to identify a professional troll:

The persons posts are usually short and snarky, with reasonably correct spelling, grammar and punctuation, suggesting both intelligence and education.

The posts are on the edge of acceptability, with little or no profanity or vulgar language that would get the post f**gged immediately.

The person has a high ratio of posts to the number of days on the site, suggesting hes posting comments nearly full time and is getting paid to troll.

The person posts politely on progressive websites but nastily on conservative websites, using the same username and IP address.

The persons posts are consistently belittling, rather than intelligent objections and points.

The persons posts address a broad spectrum of topics rather than focusing on one or two subjects of particular interest.

The consistency is in the support of l*****t policies and positions taken by the Obama administration.

Once the person is blacklisted, the OPP Forum moderators do not receive a complaint. Instead, the person quietly returns to post on OPP Forum forums in a different incarnation, perhaps using a different username, IP address or email.

OPP Forum moderators have concluded the purpose of a troll is not to intelligently discuss various issues but to minimize the importance of dissenting opinions by ridiculing serious participants expressing political views the troll finds objectionable.

Sometimes trolls appear to needle serious participants with the goal of inciting irrational retorts that can embarrass them, perhaps even to the point of being reported to employers or to the government.

OPP Forum moderators frequently experience waves of troll attacks that they suspect occur in response to a call to arms from a progressive website or blog.

Pajama bandits

A person identified as AMA posted a comment on the website Above Top Secret that apparently offers insight into how professional trolls operate.

I was a paid Internet troll

For almost five years, I was a paid Internet troll. Yes, I admit.

But first let me state that I never performed my job here on ATS, though I believe I have occasionally seen a handful on here who were using a script similar to what I was assigned.

I cannot and will not name names, but after an internship at a firm with government and political party (Republican) contracts, I was offered the position of Online Communications Associate at another company by someone from the original firm for which I interned.

My contract completed one year ago, and I have since moved on.

Utilizing six artificial personas, I was active in social networks and bulletin boards.

But since I came to love and respect this site, as I stated, I never performed my functions here.

Each week, I and presumably several others, were provided with information to use in our online postings.

At first the information was comprised of fully conceived scripts, but as I became more and more experienced, it eventually became simple bullet or talking points.

At first I needed to provide links to my postings, but when the company name changed (never knew the real names of any people there), that requirement stopped.

The pay wasnt very good, but since I was working from my apartment, I suppose it wasnt bad, and I was able to do several other writing assignments on the side.

OPP Forum will maintain an open posting policy on its forums, but will continue identifying and removing trolls who abuse the privilege.

Loki Loc: Georgia

archie bunker wrote:

If you check out what Daily Kos does, it fits. These are not real people. They are trolls. Why else would turdnest have many different email addresses. Yes, that is a fact. I know.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2012/11/l*****t-trolls-in-ongoing-war-with-wnd/

Stolen Valor Delany. aka "turdnest," is not smart enough to be a paid troll. He can barely remember his potty training from one day to the next.
As a matter of fact, I could be a paid troll for the right wing, except I have this tendency to back up my assertions with documentation. Maybe I should start a "Troll for Hire" service. (Liberals need not apply unless we need tackling dummies ).

As for the other two, I would not pay either of them for their offerings. Maybe I have higher literary standards. Could be I have higher believability standards also.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Doc110 wrote:

A takeoff on the attributes of a Professional Troll on the OPP Forum Enjoy . . .

Typically, trolls operating on OPP Forums attempt to defend Obama by posting specious and diversionary arguments with the goal of changing the subject and obscuring topics that could damage Obama, such as his birth records, life narrative, political history and policy preferences, including his current positions as president.

Particularly offensive is the proclivity of trolls to use obscene or blasphemous language mixed with personal invective.

Repeat offenders

Trolls operate on OPP Forums under various identities, often using the same IP address but with different usernames and email addresses.

One troll who was banned from participating in OPP Forums, was found to have posted more than 4,794 comments over 664 days on a wide range of websites in addition to OPP Forums.[/i]

Another posted 3,575 comments over 560 days on website forums in addition to OPP Forums that ranged from CNN to Fox News.

A third troll posted more than 10,000 comments on various user forums, including 4,306 on Fox News alone.

A fourth posting under different usernames used various email addresses and nine different IP addresses to post 15,200 comments over 787 days on OPP Forum and Fox News, as well as several smaller news websites, some of which had a local focus or interest.

Many of the trolls banned from participating in OPP forums appear to have been operating on a professional level.

Some could be l*****t plants whose purpose is to damage the reputation of OPP Forum by posing as supporters and utilizing offensive language and making obscene claims or suggestions.

Categories of abuse

Trolls use a wide variety of strategies, some of which are unique to the Internet, including these:

Making outrageous comments designed to distract or frustrate.

This is a Saul Alinsky-style tactic employed to stir emotion and angry reactions.

Posing as a conservative and making comments that discredit the movement.

After claiming to be a member of the movement, such as a tea party organization, the troll then proceeds to post long, incoherent diatribes to appear either r****t or insane.

In some cases, these Trojan Horse Trolls have been known to make posts that advocate or incite to the use of violence in an apparent attempt to provide evidence to l*****t critics and government sources that the right is comprised of radical extremists.

Dominating discussions.

Trolls may attempt to throw a discussion off course and frustrate participants whose purpose is to engage in a serious and respectful exchange of views.

Posting prewritten responses.

Many trolls appear to have been supplied with a list or database of pre-planned talking points designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments.

When trolls post prewritten responses, their words typically feel strangely plastic and rehearsed.

Making false associations.

In this technique, the position of honest posters is characterized in derogatory terms.

For example, a troll may call advocates of Federal Reserve reform or abolition conspiracy theorists or lunatics.

Or, by suggesting certain political arguments are r****t or otherwise outside the accepted confines of serious political discourse, trolls attempt to dissuade readers from examining the evidence objectively.

Exhibiting false moderation.

By pretending to be the voice of reason in an argument with obvious well-defined sides, trolls attempt to move readers to relegate the argument to a gray area, such that holding or seriously considering the argument is a leap away from reasoned judgment.

Raising straw-man fallacy arguments.

Here a troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if the argument is irrelevant and never actually raised.

Professional trolls

OPP Forum moderators have developed criteria for helping to identify a professional troll:

The persons posts are usually short and snarky, with reasonably correct spelling, grammar and punctuation, suggesting both intelligence and education.

The posts are on the edge of acceptability, with little or no profanity or vulgar language that would get the post f**gged immediately.

The person has a high ratio of posts to the number of days on the site, suggesting hes posting comments nearly full time and is getting paid to troll.

The person posts politely on progressive websites but nastily on conservative websites, using the same username and IP address.

The persons posts are consistently belittling, rather than intelligent objections and points.

The persons posts address a broad spectrum of topics rather than focusing on one or two subjects of particular interest.

The consistency is in the support of l*****t policies and positions taken by the Obama administration.

Once the person is blacklisted, the OPP Forum moderators do not receive a complaint. Instead, the person quietly returns to post on OPP Forum forums in a different incarnation, perhaps using a different username, IP address or email.

OPP Forum moderators have concluded the purpose of a troll is not to intelligently discuss various issues but to minimize the importance of dissenting opinions by ridiculing serious participants expressing political views the troll finds objectionable.

Sometimes trolls appear to needle serious participants with the goal of inciting irrational retorts that can embarrass them, perhaps even to the point of being reported to employers or to the government.

OPP Forum moderators frequently experience waves of troll attacks that they suspect occur in response to a call to arms from a progressive website or blog.

Pajama bandits

A person identified as AMA posted a comment on the website Above Top Secret that apparently offers insight into how professional trolls operate.

I was a paid Internet troll

For almost five years, I was a paid Internet troll. Yes, I admit.

But first let me state that I never performed my job here on ATS, though I believe I have occasionally seen a handful on here who were using a script similar to what I was assigned.

I cannot and will not name names, but after an internship at a firm with government and political party (Republican) contracts, I was offered the position of Online Communications Associate at another company by someone from the original firm for which I interned.

My contract completed one year ago, and I have since moved on.

Utilizing six artificial personas, I was active in social networks and bulletin boards.

But since I came to love and respect this site, as I stated, I never performed my functions here.

Each week, I and presumably several others, were provided with information to use in our online postings.

At first the information was comprised of fully conceived scripts, but as I became more and more experienced, it eventually became simple bullet or talking points.

At first I needed to provide links to my postings, but when the company name changed (never knew the real names of any people there), that requirement stopped.

The pay wasnt very good, but since I was working from my apartment, I suppose it wasnt bad, and I was able to do several other writing assignments on the side.

OPP Forum will maintain an open posting policy on its forums, but will continue identifying and removing trolls who abuse the privilege.

A takeoff on the attributes of a Professional Trol... (show quote)

Here we have inside information. Am I a troll?

Loki Loc: Georgia

Coos Bay Tom wrote:

Here we have inside information. Am I a troll?

If you are, you're not a very good one. You're WAY too polite.

Loki Loc: Georgia

archie bunker wrote:

Well, the three I mentioned seem to get a lot of responses. Ray is obsessed with that. He may be a competitive troll. Maybe they get paid for numbers? I'm just guessing.

If they are being paid for content or quality, someone isn't getting their money's worth.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Little Ball of H**e wrote:

I doubt that there are any on this site. The usual suspects are not good enough to be paid for it. :twisted:

While you may have a valid point, isn't the job of the paid troll to sound like any other poster but use only the "progressive" talking points? There are probably paid trolls for L***Q activists also, and CPUSA trolls. It would be difficult to point out Republican trolls, as the Republican party and the conservative movement is too fractured and disorganized to come accross as one voice, fortunately we tend to have slightly different takes on most issues unlike the "progressives"

Pulfnick Loc: Knoxville, TN

The thing about trolls I don't understand is why so many here take their bait and get into extended arguments with them. Is that really enjoyable? Do you think trolls are willing to examine reason, recognize their absurdities, change their position?

If rational people would just ignore their inane posts, don't even bother reading them, the troll problem might lessen.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Loki wrote:

If they are being paid for content or quality, someone isn't getting their money's worth.

The ones here, and other places I have seen repeat the same crap over, and over like phone solicitors reading from a script.