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Feb 16, 2016 07:43:45   #
fredlott63
 
Sin 3
This is the last paper on the things we do that God says don’t do. I will add violating God’s commandments will hurt you more than anybody else. What Jesus is bringing to light is that before an act is committed the intention is already present. We should know that if we just think about doing something and never do it, there is no sin. It is not a sin to get angry if you don’t do anything according to Psalm 4:4 and Ephesians 4:26. We should consider the consequences of an action before we act. We should not behave like life is a movie where we play a role. Real life is not scripted and life is what happens to you when you make other plans. This list of sins is given by Jesus in Mark 7:21 and 22.
· Evil thoughts – All actions are first justified mentally before they are committed physically. Thoughts precede actions. The third chapter of Genesis shows us how satan influences sin. Before an act is done, it is planned and justified in your mind. By the way, God and Jesus can read your mind. Satan can do it a little. This is why God says not to plan our words. Let’s go back to the bible; If the intention never becomes an action, it can’t be a sin. Even secular courts cannot convict if there is no evidence. If you haven’t done it, there will be no evidence. There is power in clean hands. You have no need to fear if you haven’t done anything.
· Adulteries – Before a relationship is started, make sure they are not married. If you don’t know, just ask. It is impossible to keep lying without the truth being exposed. God hates liars and supernatural forces unseen by the human eye are working to expose the truth. Adultery is having sex with anyone other than your mate, if you are married. It is also adultery if a single person has sex with a married person. It would be easier not to get involved with a married person than stop once you have started. Besides, why would you want to be involved with a person who obviously isn’t trustworthy?
· Fornication – This proves that Jesus knew the difference between adultery and fornication. Fornication is sex between two unmarried people. I believe 1 Corinthians 7:36 says you can have sex with your fiancé’. Matthew 5:27 and 28 does not apply if both of you are single. What starts the relationship if not mutual attraction? The genitalia contain over 8,000 nerve endings and some people are wired to have someone to be intimate with. It is better to marry than to wake up hard in a lonely bed. It is normal for males to desire to be close to females and visa versa. Today we put normal relations under a magnifying glass and legalize gay marriage. This makes no sense. Why they are so many rules for a straight couple and same sex couples are on easy street?
· Murders – You cannot accidentally murder another human being. If tensions get high, go somewhere else.
· Thefts – Taking things that don’t belong to you is wrong and we shouldn’t do it.
· Covetousness – Not only is stealing wrong, desiring to steal is just as bad. Not only is sleeping with your neighbor’s wife wrong, approaching her when you know you want her is wrong. This is what Jesus meant in Matthew 5:27 and 28.
· Wickedness – Mentally justifying deeds you know to be evil. Having a conscience seared with a hot iron. Doing wrong and feeling no guilt or shame.

· Deceit – God hates liars and if you read Revelation 21:8 all liars are on the eighth train to hell. It is wrong to deliberately misrepresent the truth. Besides, it is what it is and there is nothing that can be done to change reality. Unless we can prove what we affirm, we shouldn’t speak.
· Lewdness – It is not anything wrong with a married couple having sex. Who you have sex with should be more important than what acts are committed. Read Hebrews 13:4.
· Evil eye – The eyes are windows to the soul. When evil is in your heart, it shows on your face.
· Blasphemy – From the abundance of the heart the mouth runneth forth. Most people think of an idea before they say it. Just speaking your feelings without thinking first can cause a world of trouble.
· Pride – This is when you put self above others. The opposite of pride is humility.
· Foolishness – This is doing things harmful to you. If nobody else likes you, you should like you. If you like yourself, then you should take care of yourself.

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Feb 16, 2016 08:17:04   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
What Jesus is bringing to light is that before an act is committed the intention is already present. We should know that if we just think about doing something and never do it, there is no sin.


Actually there is sin, because thinking about doing something sinful is unrighteousness, and all unrighteousness is sin.(I John 5:17)

There is a sin "not unto death" which is a reference to sin that is not imputed to the one doing the unrighteous activity. It is not imputed because it was halted instead of brought to completion in evil activity.

1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1 Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Luke 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The word "Desire" used by Jesus to reference the Passover, in Luke 22:15 is the same Greek word translated "Lust" in James 1:15

It is simply a strong desire which may reference a good thin, or a bad thing, but it is not the thing itself, nor the desire or lust that is wrong; it is how we deal with the desire or lust; do we focus on the emotions stirred by strong feelings, or do we recognize the power of emotion-led feelings that bring us to fullgrown sin?

"Jesus was tempted in every point like unto we, yet without sin" does not mean Jesus had no sin, it means no sin was ever imputed to Jesus because he always dealt with his desires in a correct way, through prayer and a desperate need to always please His Father.

This is why scripture tells us two opposing things, yet without contradiction, because unimputed sin is still sin, but is not imputed, so that one who has unimputed sin, will not have sin attached to his name. THAT would be imputed if attached thereunto.

But we are told of the priests who offered sacrifice DAILY, first for their own sins, then for the sins of the people; and we are told Christ did ONCE what those priests did DAILY; that is, he sacrificed first for his own sins, then for the sins of the people.

Heb 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Jesus' sins were not imputed to him, therefore it is truthfully said, "He had no sin;" i.e., there is no sin accounted to his name.

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Feb 16, 2016 08:36:35   #
fredlott63
 
Theo wrote:
Actually there is sin, because thinking about doing something sinful is unrighteousness, and all unrighteousness is sin.(I John 5:17)

There is a sin "not unto death" which is a reference to sin that is not imputed to the one doing the unrighteous activity. It is not imputed because it was halted instead of brought to completion in evil activity.

1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

1 Cor 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

James 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

Luke 22:15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer:

Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The word "Desire" used by Jesus to reference the Passover, in Luke 22:15 is the same Greek word translated "Lust" in James 1:15

It is simply a strong desire which may reference a good thin, or a bad thing, but it is not the thing itself, nor the desire or lust that is wrong; it is how we deal with the desire or lust; do we focus on the emotions stirred by strong feelings, or do we recognize the power of emotion-led feelings that bring us to fullgrown sin?

"Jesus was tempted in every point like unto we, yet without sin" does not mean Jesus had no sin, it means no sin was ever imputed to Jesus because he always dealt with his desires in a correct way, through prayer and a desperate need to always please His Father.

This is why scripture tells us two opposing things, yet without contradiction, because unimputed sin is still sin, but is not imputed, so that one who has unimputed sin, will not have sin attached to his name. THAT would be imputed if attached thereunto.

But we are told of the priests who offered sacrifice DAILY, first for their own sins, then for the sins of the people; and we are told Christ did ONCE what those priests did DAILY; that is, he sacrificed first for his own sins, then for the sins of the people.

Heb 7:26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Jesus' sins were not imputed to him, therefore it is truthfully said, "He had no sin;" i.e., there is no sin accounted to his name.
Actually there is sin, because thinking about doin... (show quote)


There are no thought police. If you haven't done it you are innocent. Thoughts can't be monitored.

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Feb 16, 2016 09:35:21   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
There are no thought police. If you haven't done it you are innocent. Thoughts can't be monitored.


You think to limit God's ability to monitor His creation?

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Feb 16, 2016 09:39:02   #
fredlott63
 
Theo wrote:
You think to limit God's ability to monitor His creation?


Man ain't God.

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Feb 17, 2016 01:26:00   #
fiatlux
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Sin 3
This is the last paper on the things we do that God says don’t do. I will add violating God’s commandments will hurt you more than anybody else. What Jesus is bringing to light is that before an act is committed the intention is already present. We should know that if we just think about doing something and never do it, there is no sin. It is not a sin to get angry if you don’t do anything according to Psalm 4:4 and Ephesians 4:26. We should consider the consequences of an action before we act. We should not behave like life is a movie where we play a role. Real life is not scripted and life is what happens to you when you make other plans. This list of sins is given by Jesus in Mark 7:21 and 22.
· Evil thoughts – All actions are first justified mentally before they are committed physically. Thoughts precede actions. The third chapter of Genesis shows us how satan influences sin. Before an act is done, it is planned and justified in your mind. By the way, God and Jesus can read your mind. Satan can do it a little. This is why God says not to plan our words. Let’s go back to the bible; If the intention never becomes an action, it can’t be a sin. Even secular courts cannot convict if there is no evidence. If you haven’t done it, there will be no evidence. There is power in clean hands. You have no need to fear if you haven’t done anything.
· Adulteries – Before a relationship is started, make sure they are not married. If you don’t know, just ask. It is impossible to keep lying without the truth being exposed. God hates liars and supernatural forces unseen by the human eye are working to expose the truth. Adultery is having sex with anyone other than your mate, if you are married. It is also adultery if a single person has sex with a married person. It would be easier not to get involved with a married person than stop once you have started. Besides, why would you want to be involved with a person who obviously isn’t trustworthy?
· Fornication – This proves that Jesus knew the difference between adultery and fornication. Fornication is sex between two unmarried people. I believe 1 Corinthians 7:36 says you can have sex with your fiancé’. Matthew 5:27 and 28 does not apply if both of you are single. What starts the relationship if not mutual attraction? The genitalia contain over 8,000 nerve endings and some people are wired to have someone to be intimate with. It is better to marry than to wake up hard in a lonely bed. It is normal for males to desire to be close to females and visa versa. Today we put normal relations under a magnifying glass and legalize gay marriage. This makes no sense. Why they are so many rules for a straight couple and same sex couples are on easy street?
· Murders – You cannot accidentally murder another human being. If tensions get high, go somewhere else.
· Thefts – Taking things that don’t belong to you is wrong and we shouldn’t do it.
· Covetousness – Not only is stealing wrong, desiring to steal is just as bad. Not only is sleeping with your neighbor’s wife wrong, approaching her when you know you want her is wrong. This is what Jesus meant in Matthew 5:27 and 28.
· Wickedness – Mentally justifying deeds you know to be evil. Having a conscience seared with a hot iron. Doing wrong and feeling no guilt or shame.

· Deceit – God hates liars and if you read Revelation 21:8 all liars are on the eighth train to hell. It is wrong to deliberately misrepresent the truth. Besides, it is what it is and there is nothing that can be done to change reality. Unless we can prove what we affirm, we shouldn’t speak.
· Lewdness – It is not anything wrong with a married couple having sex. Who you have sex with should be more important than what acts are committed. Read Hebrews 13:4.
· Evil eye – The eyes are windows to the soul. When evil is in your heart, it shows on your face.
· Blasphemy – From the abundance of the heart the mouth runneth forth. Most people think of an idea before they say it. Just speaking your feelings without thinking first can cause a world of trouble.
· Pride – This is when you put self above others. The opposite of pride is humility.
· Foolishness – This is doing things harmful to you. If nobody else likes you, you should like you. If you like yourself, then you should take care of yourself.
Sin 3 br This is the last paper on the things we d... (show quote)


Let me ask you a question. In life there are probably a few billion things we should not do: can we make a comprehensive list? No. What would alleviate the need for covering every circumstance and condition of possible sin, a detailed listing of how to righteously respond? Love!

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Feb 17, 2016 07:49:22   #
fredlott63
 
fiatlux wrote:
Let me ask you a question. In life there are probably a few billion things we should not do: can we make a comprehensive list? No. What would alleviate the need for covering every circumstance and condition of possible sin, a detailed listing of how to righteously respond? Love!


I am just teaching scripture. Following it made the difference in my life and it would help us all if we understood.

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