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Should we obey the 10 commandments
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Feb 16, 2016 09:36:55   #
Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Read the post by Fiat Lux.


Only Once. Already did. And your point is...???

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Feb 16, 2016 10:04:24   #
fredlott63
 
Theo wrote:
Only Once. Already did. And your point is...???


He said and I quote, "Do not obey the 10 commandments".

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Feb 17, 2016 01:20:05   #
fiatlux
 
Theo wrote:
It will take much more than a cursory reading to determine the degree of agreement to which I commit myself, but it certainly looks promising from my perspective. It seems to be very well presented. However (You knew THAT was coming) the more subtle aspects of the law were just as detrimental to righteousness. There is much in both testaments about "sins of Ignorance" that I have yet to hear anyone speak of. Yet there were laws covering sins committed in ignorance, by priests, by rulers, by the congregation, by strangers among the congregation, every category was spelled out, with the remedy under the law.

The new testament references this as "times of ignorance,"
and informs us of God's change in attitude thereof, in that He commands all everywhere to repent. And how does one "repent" of ignorance? By living under the rule of the spirit instead of the letter of laws.

But the greater problem for the Jew who thinks they can live under the law today, is simply one of ignorance. A great part of "The law" was about the sacrifices and feast days of the Covenant. They required a presence in the temple, which no longer exists. NO JEW TODAY CAN LIVE BY THE LAW. It is futile even to attempt it, because there are no longer animal sacrifices made in the temple, which also was an integral part of that law.

It has been rightly spoken, that the punishments of the law are as much "of the law" as were the limitations and impositions of the law.

But the greater majesty of the Covenant with Abraham through Christ comes about by a deeper significance than I find preached anywhere; and that is the simplicity of faith; faith not IN Jesus Christ, but the development in Christians of the Faith OF Jesus Christ.

Christians are instructed by Paul in Romans 3:22; Gal 2:16; Gal 3:22; And by John in Rev 14:12, about what they reference as "Faith OF Jesus Christ." And it is a subject very important to pursue and understand as it needs to be developed in all who would receive a deeper appreciation through understanding the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Study the Christ, and the depth of His faith in a resurrection having no middle man; a resurrection that demanded the deepest absolute belief that God would raise Him from the dead, as no other ever in the history of Mankind. A Resurrection by God Himself, not through a prophet or a priest or a High Priest, or any other man. Just
God and the Faith of Christ that God's word was truth.

We must develop in our faith, that "Faith of Jesus Christ," that if God says it, I will believe it, and live my life in dependence totally upon nothing other than the fact God said it. He does not have to demonstrate it for me, because He already proved it in His Christ. And His promises are true. And He is My Father, and I am His child, by the Faith OF Jesus Christ.

Jesus began life as a child, and grew in wisdom, and in stature, and in favor with God and with Men; because His faith grew most of all. His faith grew to the point He could die the death of sinners, and not doubt God would raise him from that death, to a life beyond the reach of any other Man, to sit at God's right hand and rule the kingdom of God till the last enemy, death, is destroyed.

THAT IS AS STRONG AS FAITH GETS. Unquestioning of God's word. That is why we must not simply memorize a translation and think we have the living word of God. TRANSLATORS are MEN; MEN who sometimes let bias interfere with their duty to be true to God's truth, and instead, ply their trade in souls to lead men in thinking, so as to promote one denomination over another.

We should learn of "Sin not unto death," because that is the sin of his own which Jesus bore to the cross; We should learn of the sins of ignorance, not because we are under the law, but precisely because we are freed therefrom, to live by the spirit, which casts out ignorance and fear and doubt.

And we should pursue humility, because by it we begin to emulate him who died that I might live.
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Greatest thought I have ever heard: "...faith not IN Jesus Christ, but the development in Christians of the Faith OF Jesus Christ." The distinction is marvelous.

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