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There is no government shutdown
Oct 13, 2013 08:04:20   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
There is no government shutdown.

Closing a few monuments and museums and some operations that will inconvenience Americans, but will not save any money, but cost money in some cases, is not a shutdown.

A shutdown would STOP the giving of money to foreign countries.

It would stop Obama's illegal use of AF-1 and its attendent expense of $180,000 PER HOUR as his personal toy used for golf trips, dinner dates, campaiging, and fund raising.

It would STOP Michelle Obama's 30 to 40 personal servants from being paid huge salaries from tax money.

It would end the subsidized goodies for congress and other employees like barber shops, cafes, banking, and various stores and shops that sell to senators and representatives.

It would stop giving tax money in the form of food stamps, welfare, Obama phones, ADC, WIC, housing subsidues, etc. to able bodied people who refuse to work.

It would stop using tax mpney to meddle in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

It would shutdown all the unnecessary and/or unconstitutional government bureaus.

It would stop using tax money to operate radio and TV broadcast stations in co0mpetition with private enterprise stations.

It would stop giving politicians, bureaucrats, and government employees obscene pay, retirement, and expensive bennies.

It would stop tax payer financing of weaponry and money to the Al Queda-Muslim Brotherhood coalition in Egypt, Libya, syria, and God knows where else.

That's only a partial list of NON ESSENTIAL government. The list could go on, but I believe people can get the message.

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Oct 13, 2013 08:43:57   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The shut down (if you want to call it that) is aimed at the people not government itself. Obama has taken it upon himself to shut things down that the feds don't even pay for thus making it much harder on the owner and in the process he's stealing those tax revenues.



hprinze wrote:
There is no government shutdown.

Closing a few monuments and museums and some operations that will inconvenience Americans, but will not save any money, but cost money in some cases, is not a shutdown.

A shutdown would STOP the giving of money to foreign countries.

It would stop Obama's illegal use of AF-1 and its attendent expense of $180,000 PER HOUR as his personal toy used for golf trips, dinner dates, campaiging, and fund raising.

It would STOP Michelle Obama's 30 to 40 personal servants from being paid huge salaries from tax money.

It would end the subsidized goodies for congress and other employees like barber shops, cafes, banking, and various stores and shops that sell to senators and representatives.

It would stop giving tax money in the form of food stamps, welfare, Obama phones, ADC, WIC, housing subsidues, etc. to able bodied people who refuse to work.

It would stop using tax mpney to meddle in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

It would shutdown all the unnecessary and/or unconstitutional government bureaus.

It would stop using tax money to operate radio and TV broadcast stations in co0mpetition with private enterprise stations.

It would stop giving politicians, bureaucrats, and government employees obscene pay, retirement, and expensive bennies.

It would stop tax payer financing of weaponry and money to the Al Queda-Muslim Brotherhood coalition in Egypt, Libya, syria, and God knows where else.

That's only a partial list of NON ESSENTIAL government. The list could go on, but I believe people can get the message.
There is no government shutdown. br br Closing a ... (show quote)

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Oct 13, 2013 08:49:30   #
Confused
 
hprinze wrote:
There is no government shutdown.

Closing a few monuments and museums and some operations that will inconvenience Americans, but will not save any money, but cost money in some cases, is not a shutdown.

A shutdown would STOP the giving of money to foreign countries.

It would stop Obama's illegal use of AF-1 and its attendent expense of $180,000 PER HOUR as his personal toy used for golf trips, dinner dates, campaiging, and fund raising.

It would STOP Michelle Obama's 30 to 40 personal servants from being paid huge salaries from tax money.

It would end the subsidized goodies for congress and other employees like barber shops, cafes, banking, and various stores and shops that sell to senators and representatives.

It would stop giving tax money in the form of food stamps, welfare, Obama phones, ADC, WIC, housing subsidues, etc. to able bodied people who refuse to work.

It would stop using tax mpney to meddle in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

It would shutdown all the unnecessary and/or unconstitutional government bureaus.

It would stop using tax money to operate radio and TV broadcast stations in co0mpetition with private enterprise stations.

It would stop giving politicians, bureaucrats, and government employees obscene pay, retirement, and expensive bennies.

It would stop tax payer financing of weaponry and money to the Al Queda-Muslim Brotherhood coalition in Egypt, Libya, syria, and God knows where else.

That's only a partial list of NON ESSENTIAL government. The list could go on, but I believe people can get the message.
There is no government shutdown. br br Closing a ... (show quote)


The National parks are actually money makers so why shut them down and allow the government to pay Congress ? It has become quite clear that this political feud is complete bulls**t . Barrycades at open air memorials that never had them . I would venture to say the Barrycades cost more money than if they weren't there at all . Park rangers who usually sit on their asses now erect Barrycades at Old Faithful and actually have to get off their asses to harass people taking pictures . Finally we see the t***sparency this pathetic candidate promised . Public lands are not closed to oil drillers , just Grandma snapping a few photos of a part of the country " We the People " OWN .

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Oct 13, 2013 08:52:56   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
I'm willing to be that it costs more to shut them down that leave them open.



Confused wrote:
The National parks are actually money makers so why shut them down and allow the government to pay Congress ? It has become quite clear that this political feud is complete bulls**t . Barrycades at open air memorials that never had them . I would venture to say the Barrycades cost more money than if they weren't there at all . Park rangers who usually sit on their asses now erect Barrycades at Old Faithful and actually have to get off their asses to harass people taking pictures . Finally we see the t***sparency this pathetic candidate promised . Public lands are not closed to oil drillers , just Grandma snapping a few photos of a part of the country " We the People " OWN .
The National parks are actually money makers so wh... (show quote)

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Oct 13, 2013 09:11:25   #
Buck Loc: Valparaiso,IN
 
hprinze wrote:
There is no government shutdown.

Closing a few monuments and museums and some operations that will inconvenience Americans, but will not save any money, but cost money in some cases, is not a shutdown.

A shutdown would STOP the giving of money to foreign countries.

It would stop Obama's illegal use of AF-1 and its attendent expense of $180,000 PER HOUR as his personal toy used for golf trips, dinner dates, campaiging, and fund raising.

It would STOP Michelle Obama's 30 to 40 personal servants from being paid huge salaries from tax money.

It would end the subsidized goodies for congress and other employees like barber shops, cafes, banking, and various stores and shops that sell to senators and representatives.

It would stop giving tax money in the form of food stamps, welfare, Obama phones, ADC, WIC, housing subsidues, etc. to able bodied people who refuse to work.

It would stop using tax mpney to meddle in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

It would shutdown all the unnecessary and/or unconstitutional government bureaus.

It would stop using tax money to operate radio and TV broadcast stations in co0mpetition with private enterprise stations.

It would stop giving politicians, bureaucrats, and government employees obscene pay, retirement, and expensive bennies.

It would stop tax payer financing of weaponry and money to the Al Queda-Muslim Brotherhood coalition in Egypt, Libya, syria, and God knows where else.

That's only a partial list of NON ESSENTIAL government. The list could go on, but I believe people can get the message.
There is no government shutdown. br br Closing a ... (show quote)

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Oct 13, 2013 10:14:43   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
SURPRISE, SURPRISE..

********************************************************************

I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying this park, facility, etc. [with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown. There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies.

This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 month ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.

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Oct 13, 2013 10:18:37   #
Confused
 
cold iron wrote:
SURPRISE, SURPRISE..

********************************************************************

I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying this park, facility, etc. [with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown. There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies.

This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 month ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE.. br br *********************... (show quote)


Thank you !

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Oct 13, 2013 10:30:53   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Well either that or it would have been more waste.I did wonder how they got signs so quickly, bet they paid top dollar!



cold iron wrote:
SURPRISE, SURPRISE..

********************************************************************

I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying this park, facility, etc. [with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown. There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies.

This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 month ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE.. br br *********************... (show quote)

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Oct 14, 2013 21:14:47   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
cold iron wrote:
SURPRISE, SURPRISE..

********************************************************************

I have worked in the government on and off for 40 years. During that time I became quite familiar with requisitions, bidding, awarding contracts etc. It is a time consuming process with bean-counters and pencil-necked bureaucrats every step of the way. The simplest request takes months not days or hours.

In less than 8 hours of the shutdown, miraculously, professionally printed 3X4 foot signs appeared all over the country in the tens of thousands saying this park, facility, etc. [with custom logos] closed due to government shutdown. There has not been a government shutdown in 17 years. These signs were designed, specifications were determined, signs were then requisitioned, bids were posted and vetted, government contracts were awarded. The materials were then ordered and the signs manufactured then distributed U.S. Mails or freight companies.

This shutdown was orchestrated and planned well in advance at least 6-8 month ago. Millions of tax dollars were appropriated and spent in this process. There is a paper trail a mile long leading directly to the White House.
SURPRISE, SURPRISE.. br br *********************... (show quote)

Makes sense!! Wow!!

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