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House Republicans may be the country’s last hope to avoid financial ruin
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Oct 12, 2013 09:35:30   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
octive9 wrote:
You are blinded by h**e. Your numbers are not true. Your side lost - deal with it.


You are blinded by LIES. It is fact. Your side SHOULD lose, but there are enough ignorant people, or people sucking off the public teat to ensure the democraps get re-elected to further destroy this country. Suffer from the mess your c*******t party will have done to this country. Serves you right. Deal with it!

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Oct 12, 2013 09:49:22   #
vernon
 
octive9 wrote:
House Republicans are causing the ruin of our economy. That has been their goal for years, just to make Obama look bad. It is backfiring on them. Their poles are the lowest they have ever been.

Most of the arguments in the original post "House Republicans may be the country’s last hope to avoid financial ruin" are so silly that it is not worth the time to respond to them.


the only way this can backfire on the reps. is that they fold.they must hold obamas feet to the fire and keep this govt shut down ,our whole way of life is at stake it must be done

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Oct 12, 2013 09:55:16   #
vernon
 
octive9 wrote:
I agree that both side have some blame, but the Republicans have made their main issue to make Obama look bad at the expense of our economy.

Considering what Obama inherited, and the obstructionism he has been dealing with from Congress, I have to put most of the blame on Republicans, especially the Tea Party.


he inherited what the dem congress gave him they were the ones who ruined the economy.and the obstruction you speak of is reid blocking evey bill the house has sent over there for the last 5 yrs.reid is not anything but a dictator wannabe

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Oct 12, 2013 17:02:53   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Not quite.

http://www.craigsteiner.us/articles/16

http://www.capoliticalreview.com/top-stories/debunking-the-clinton-budget-surplus-myth/

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-budget-destroyed-the-economy-2012-9


octive9 wrote:
Speaking of unfunded liabilities, Bush inherited a budget surplus and 5.6 trillion debt. He left with a trillion dollar deficit, 9 trillion dollar debt and the worst recession since the great depression. Two wars, Medicare Part D and pay for them with a tax cut, what kind of logic is that? Answer: Republican Tea Party logic.

At least Obama has gotten the deficit down to about half what he started with, in spite of Republican obstructionism.

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Oct 12, 2013 18:32:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Schuler wrote:
Ooops--wrongo--the nation's main debt is held by PRIVATE interests--THE FEDERAL RESERVE!!!--the second biggest part of the debt is held by--well who woulda thunk it--'us'-as in US of A pension plans! Contrary to most people's beliefs-the biggest part debt of American debt is in the hands of America's PRIVATE bankers--THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKS-which are, as I just wrote,-PRIVATELY held!-not public or foreign interests! Ya-Ya Ya-there is plenty 'there' too! So who has the most to lose if there is a 'default'--hint--we have met the enemy and they are bankers! And bankers do not want a default-they stand to lose very-very big-forget interest rates-forget debt ceiling- those really do not matter. Think instead--why are we PAYING these guys (bazillions) to have them LEND us our OWN money? Uhhhh --why does Washington 'borrow' (as in be lent our own money) in the first place? They-which is us -believe it or not-can/could just print wh**ever they-still us- need and pay the bill. Where do you think the money REALLY comes from? Simplistic --but TRUE.

And as for health care-there is a very simple solution-- because the 'problem' is not the patient or service recipient! We are being overcharged for everything medical. Control costs and the problem goes away. Those dirty, 'ol socialist' c****e, pinko, 'wh**ever',health care systems --like all the other industrialized nations have-do exactly that-they control what providers can CHARGE! And they do not have doctor shortages and the doctors and providers have not FLED those countries and they do not complain about pay and reimbursement rates. They report that the systems are 'fair-- as in 'just'. We need/must do the same-we used to call it 'maximum allowable cost". And don't try to tell me this will cause a shortage of anything-sickness ain't gonna go away. And where will all those 'providers' go--Sierra Leone-Malawi-Bangladesh? Yea- they gonna take their practice/insurance plans/etc. to Zimbabwe-where they will undoubtedly get even richer.! Get serious: they are opposing ADA because they are greedy bastards! Where else they gonna sustain their 'obscene' incomes-hah and double hah! Wise up America: the ACA is just a step in the right direction. If you do not have health care-or you think your current plan is too expensive, then support the ACA by signing up now! Get the facts and you will like it!
Ooops--wrongo--the nation's main debt is held by P... (show quote)


Nicely put on both subjects...Thanks...

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Oct 12, 2013 19:20:09   #
faithistheword
 
octive9 wrote:
House Republicans are causing the ruin of our economy. That has been their goal for years, just to make Obama look bad. It is backfiring on them. Their poles are the lowest they have ever been.

Most of the arguments in the original post "House Republicans may be the country’s last hope to avoid financial ruin" are so silly that it is not worth the time to respond to them.


How many experts does it take to convince you liberals that obamacare is a bad thing? Even the people it was supposed to help are victims of this atrocity. It's time to admit you have been hoodwinked. Check your own exchange if you don't believe it. But be prepared--you cannot go there just for a quote or information. Once you inquire, they have you--you cannot opt out! The monthly payments arehigher than you expected. It doesn't matter if you v**ed for him, he's still out to get you! All you do is deny--you have NO FACTS!

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Oct 12, 2013 19:21:02   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
Man, there is a hell-of-a-lot Lib Kool Aid flowing on this thread. Whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Oct 12, 2013 19:53:21   #
popeter
 
On the subject of the differences in prices for medical services in the US and Canada, don't you think someone should look into that and do a THOROUGH piece about it? The American people deserve to know what exactly is going on. The association between AMA/BigPharma/Medical Device Mfg/etc. should be EXPOSED. People have a right to know.

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Oct 12, 2013 19:55:25   #
popeter
 
I say we allow ALL the libtards and moochers to have ObamaScare if they want it, and allow conservatives to choose what they want without mandating they have ObamaScare. Fair is fair; let everyone make his/her own choice.

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Oct 12, 2013 20:00:14   #
popeter
 
I think the only hope now is for the Republicans to promise all Mexicans crossing the border illegally the SAME things promised them by Obama, and more. This would take a huge chunk of v**es away from the Democraps. Many Mexicans are family oriented... just as are Republicans/Conservatives. They don't particularly like homosexuals and they don't like a******n. So faced with a choice between a Democrap candidate and a Republican candidate, they would go Republican if Republicans gave them everything Obama promises and more. Of course, after the e******n, we could start working on a more sensible plan.

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Oct 12, 2013 20:09:35   #
octive9
 
faithistheword wrote:
How many experts does it take to convince you liberals that obamacare is a bad thing? Even the people it was supposed to help are victims of this atrocity. It's time to admit you have been hoodwinked. Check your own exchange if you don't believe it. But be prepared--you cannot go there just for a quote or information. Once you inquire, they have you--you cannot opt out! The monthly payments arehigher than you expected. It doesn't matter if you v**ed for him, he's still out to get you! All you do is deny--you have NO FACTS!
How many experts does it take to convince you libe... (show quote)


It doesn't even start until January, the facts are not in yet.

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Oct 12, 2013 22:11:07   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
octive9 wrote:
I agree that both side have some blame, but the Republicans have made their main issue to make Obama look bad at the expense of our economy.

Considering what Obama inherited, and the obstructionism he has been dealing with from Congress, I have to put most of the blame on Republicans, especially the Tea Party.


obama doesn't need any help to look bad he does just fine in that regard all by his self

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Oct 13, 2013 10:24:41   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
octive9 wrote:
House Republicans are causing the ruin of our economy. That has been their goal for years, just to make Obama look bad. It is backfiring on them. Their poles are the lowest they have ever been.

Most of the arguments in the original post "House Republicans may be the country’s last hope to avoid financial ruin" are so silly that it is not worth the time to respond to them.


You are one of the 47% under informed. Can you explain to me how you will keep printing money and your dollar not fail? Explain to me how your going to keep paying billions to China in interests payments? hummm. You have not spent much time thinking about what is going on...If and when you ever do you will see the Republicans are trying to stop this crash...

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Oct 13, 2013 10:35:41   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Just listen to the democrats and their lap dog media, it's all the republicans fault when it's Obama ad Reid that keep saying they will except nothing but a CLEAN bill, all my way or the highway. I still say shut it down and let the democrats think about it.



cold iron wrote:
You are one of the 47% under informed. Can you explain to me how you will keep printing money and your dollar not fail? Explain to me how your going to keep paying billions to China in interests payments? hummm. You have not spent much time thinking about what is going on...If and when you ever do you will see the Republicans are trying to stop this crash...

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Oct 13, 2013 10:39:37   #
vernon
 
octive9 wrote:
House Republicans are causing the ruin of our economy. That has been their goal for years, just to make Obama look bad. It is backfiring on them. Their poles are the lowest they have ever been.

Most of the arguments in the original post "House Republicans may be the country’s last hope to avoid financial ruin" are so silly that it is not worth the time to respond to them.


yea dont face the facts just stay in your dream world

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