astrolite

I'm sorry, I can't understand your comment? Could you possibly rephrase it? Prisa? Digame tambien?

RSMAM

I had read on the internet that there is a long Muslim word in the Obama Care document that none of the congressmen have read, that stipulates that Muslims are exempt from paying for Obamacare as they are to be provided care by the infidels as they are a special group of people and that is what infidels are to do.

popeter

Why are you screaming?
Being Muslim is a choice. You don't HAVE to be that way. In point of fact, if you OBEY your Qu'ran, you will have to k**l people who are not Muslims... which could get you into big trouble in the US. And no, I'm not just another ignorant American. I have a degree in Muslims studies and in the Qu'ran. Also, my husband is Muslim (by description only since he fears reprisals from Muslims for abandoning Islam). So there, go suck on that and see what you come up with.

popeter

LOL!! Absolutely right! And I think (no, I'm SURE) that this applies to left wing loons as well. I say we put all the loons and the Muslims on a slow boat to Iran. They would BOTH be happy there since they are either Muslims or Socialists/C*******ts.

Homestead

No ObamaCare for Muslims
Posted by Conservative American
http://libertyandp***e.com/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/

There are several reasons why an individual could claim exemption, being a member of a religion that does not believe in insurance is one of them. Islam is one of those religions. Muslims believe that health insurance is “haraam”, or forbidden; because they liken the ambiguity and probability of insurance to gambling. This belief excludes them from any of the requirements, mandates, or penalties set forth in the bill. Other excluded groups include Amish, American Indians, and Christian Scientists.

So, is it that easy? Is simply being a member of an “recognized religious sect” enough to exempt an individual from Obamacare? Not quite…the information provided by each individual must first be verified against the records of the Social Security Administration, and possibly Homeland Security, in order to prove citizenship and religious status. If the records are found to be consistent with the information for the individual applying for exemption, only then are they eligible. If the records are found to inconsistent with such information, the individual applying for exemption is given 90 days to clear up any possible errors with the reporting agencies. That 90 day period can be extended upon the discretion of the Secretary of applicable agencies. If, by the end of this period, the information is still not cleared up, the individual can then apply for an appeal. Whereby exemption can be decided, or reevaluated on a periodic basis, by the individual agencies in question. The appeals process is determined by the individual agencies involved

In short, each individual applying for exemption must verify that they are citizens and that they are actually members of a “recognized religious sect.”

If the individual can make it through all of the bureaucracy involved in this process, they can then obtain exemption. Trust me the federal government doesn’t want to make it easy for anyone to get out of participating in the system.

The real question is, ”which religions qualify for exemption?” It’s easy to argue that Muslims, Christian Scientists, and the Amish will be “recognized,” because they have a moral conflict with insurance. However, what argument will Christians be able to make for exemption? Will they be able to claim exemption due to a moral conflict with publicly funded a******ns? Not likely.

astrolite

What you mean is that they won't have to sign up or pay or pay penalties! But as minorities they can't be refused or rationed healthcare! Without rationing they would be getting preference! Learn to read between the lines! It does NOT mean that they wouldn't GET healthcare!

Homestead

I didn't say that, I just posted what I found and yes, your exactly right, they will get the free health care and we will pick up the tab.
And that is perfectly al-right with them because Islam is the only true religion and we are infidels and therefore must pay them their Jiza Tax, any way.


What Qur'an Teaches:

Quran tells us to: "not to make friends with Jews and Christians" (5:51), fight them "until they pay the Jizya (a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" ( 9:29). "k**l the disbelievers wherever we find them" (2:191), "murder them and treat them harshly" (9:123), "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" ( 9:5).

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

As this is the "Introduction" portion, not the political portion, commentary is usually related to the individual joining us and their introductory statements.

Homestead

Let's look at his introductory statement.

"IM A MUSLIM AMERICAN BORN HERE AND I KNOW "THE LOOK" I GET FROM SOME OF YOU.BUT BEING A BLACK MAN IM USED TO IT. SO WHY DONT YOU LET IT OUT. BE T***HFUL YOU WILL FEEL BTTER."

This is both an accusation and an assumption of guilt based on a number of Logical fallacies.

First he's Begging the Question:
(The t***h of the conclusion is assumed by the premises )

He talks about a "look" mentions that he's Muslim, but, specifically states that he's black. Uses those facts to make an assumption of what others are thinking, then based on his assumption recommends an action for others to take then assumes a result that's based on his conclusions.


This is using Logical Fallacies in an attempt to forestall a disagreement:
(poison well. Disagreement would be embarrassing. Everyone knows.)

As well as:

Creating misgivings:
(Innuendos, distorted charges.)

Faulty generalizations:
(Too little evidence, atypical cases cited.)

Assuming cause:
(post hoc. Preceding event caused X. Contrary to fact.)

Misuse hypothesis:
(Treat as certain outcome of hypothesis.)

He's promoting a charge of r****m and assumed guilt.
Did he ever stop to think that maybe, he's just an ass hole and that's why people don't like him? Or maybe he forgot to smile and is running around with a scowl on his face, or you know what, maybe the other person got up on the wrong side of the bed, it happens.

The other thing he said was that he Is Muslim, at a time in this country when Islam is blowing up buildings and foot races and trying to institute Shari Law.
Is he running around in Muslim garb telling everyone how the United Sates sucks?

Islam tells all Muslims that there is no God but Allah and there is no religion, but, Islam. Because of that, every other religion is an insult to Islam, just by it's existence and must be destroyed. Anyone that does not believe in Islam is a non believer and infidel, has no right to live and must be converted or k**led.

They accomplish their goals by the process of submission. Everyone must submit to Allah. Falsely accusing an infidel of insulting a Muslim or Islam and getting them to apologize, based on their accusation alone, is submission.

I will not submit.

astrolite

Unfortunatly it will require something more than refusing to submit! In EVERY country they have invaded they continue to MURDER the other citizens! As to their "Religion" it is only an excuse for MURDER, therefore they are convicted by their adherence to the quest of Murder! Like a fatal disease THEY must be eradicated! But it is only like k*****g roaches! A neccessary evil!

abneng27th

Keep it shut down until we can figure out how to live within our means.

astrolite

The people behind the Obamunist won't let us live within our means, Then they wouldn't be able to control us! By divide and conquer, and l**ting the treasury with welfare and cronies, and foreign aid they have destroyed our economy! They won't destroy our military because they want to use it to enforce THEIR agenda! The first Rothschilde enforce loans by loaning more money to the enemies of the delinquent borrower! Now we are fighting Israel's enemies with our blood and taxes! But the Obamunist is getting us to fight or at least support the Muslim Brotherhood! And his home country in Africa (so far only with our taxes).

195382

I feel that are Gods children.

195382

No!

195382

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