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Feb 10, 2016 20:10:18   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
susanblange wrote:
Perfection does not equate to righteousness. Perfection exceeds righteousness. We can be righteous without being perfect as long as we atone for our sin.


How can one atone for their sin? One can ask for forgiveness, but atonement is only available through the Christ. He paid the price for sin, once and for all.

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Feb 10, 2016 20:13:54   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Louie27 wrote:
That is just the point. God knows all men/women are sinners one way or another even when he demands it to be. Just as all employees are demanded by their employers to be perfect in their work but understands there will be some areas where they will not be perfect.


Exodus 19:6. "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation..." Holiness means to be without sin. We are not to commit a deadly sin and to repent of the sins we've committed. That is how we attain holiness. The sins we have committed determines our status in Heaven. Some of us become arch angels and others will be resurrected to shame and everlasting contempt. Daniel 12:2. Most of us will fall in between.

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Feb 10, 2016 20:22:02   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
How can one atone for their sin? One can ask for forgiveness, but atonement is only available through the Christ. He paid the price for sin, once and for all.


God set the rules for repentance in the Day of Atonement, or Yom Kippur. We are to pray and afflict our souls (bodies) by fasting for 24 hours. Nothing to eat or drink. If we have sinned against another person, we have to confess to that person and make restitution. Yom Kippur atones for sins against God in spirit. Things like not keeping the dietary laws or working on the Sabbath. Sinning against God's person is the deadliest of sins and it cannot be forgiven. But it has happened.

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Feb 10, 2016 23:54:32   #
PeterS
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Providing evidence of "God inspired " written the word of God, has nothing to do with my faith. I have no idea how you confused that.

When I accepted Christ, I had no knowledge of the evidence 35 years ago. Not until the last decade have I been aware of the mountains of evidence. Evidence only confirms and cements, my faith of the unseen.
What really is amazing to me is living in the times of multiple prophecies fulfilling and converging . 2000 years ago the Apostles lived during the beginning of the church age, and now seeing the hand of my God, the living God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob at, living at the end of the church age.
Providing evidence of "God inspired " wr... (show quote)


Just as Mary was a virgin--it's all in your immigration. What actual prophecy has been proven. And don't give me a lot of bull s**t. Just give me one prophecy that I can look up and verify that it's been prove.

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Feb 11, 2016 02:13:21   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
What is your interest in Science supporting the existence of God?



My interest is as technology doubles, triples, at lightening speed, more and more evidence points to a creator. As does more archaeological finds as time goes by.

As an ambassador of Christ (all Christians are ) when speaking with an unbeliever God's word is first and foremost (Isaiah 55:11King James Version (KJV) my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Also sharing prophecy ( Matthew 16 : 3 KJVAnd in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O yehypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?) Making aware of prophecies fulfilled, and in the process of fulfillment, signs of the end times, the tribulation, and second coming of Christ.
Then combining archaeology proving the accuracy of the bible, lastly advances in science further demonstrating the accuracy of the bible.

It then is the Holy Spirit that brings an unbeliever to Christ

(John 16:8King James Version (KJV)
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

And that's my answer, besides my own curiosity

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Feb 11, 2016 02:58:25   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
PeterS wrote:
Just as Mary was a virgin--it's all in your immigration. What actual prophecy has been proven. And don't give me a lot of bull s**t. Just give me one prophecy that I can look up and verify that it's been prove.


Here's one.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=13&article=1790

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Feb 11, 2016 07:27:11   #
PeterS
 

It came up 'web page not available'

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Feb 11, 2016 07:51:12   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 


Interesting read, that link does work.

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Feb 11, 2016 08:56:17   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
My interest is as technology doubles, triples, at lightening speed, more and more evidence points to a creator. As does more archaeological finds as time goes by.

As an ambassador of Christ (all Christians are ) when speaking with an unbeliever God's word is first and foremost (Isaiah 55:11King James Version (KJV) my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Also sharing prophecy ( Matthew 16 : 3 KJVAnd in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O yehypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?) Making aware of prophecies fulfilled, and in the process of fulfillment, signs of the end times, the tribulation, and second coming of Christ.
Then combining archaeology proving the accuracy of the bible, lastly advances in science further demonstrating the accuracy of the bible.

It then is the Holy Spirit that brings an unbeliever to Christ

(John 16:8King James Version (KJV)
8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

And that's my answer, besides my own curiosity
My interest is as technology doubles, triples, at... (show quote)


Does science owe God somehow? Is a philosopher or a historian required to dev**e scholarship to God?

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Feb 11, 2016 08:56:25   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 


What an enlightening article and recitation....Book marked the page as I enjoyed a couple of other things I read on it as well........
Thank You.....

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Feb 11, 2016 09:03:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Does science owe God somehow? Is a philosopher or a historian required to dev**e scholarship to God?


No one owes God anything..He gave choice, a thinking brain and a hope to turn to him, period..He requires nothing from us other than to follow the ten commandments..Everything else secular wise is man made misconception to enforce "their Church" and thrive...

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Feb 11, 2016 11:19:17   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
PeterS wrote:
It came up 'web page not available'


It works for me. Try a different browser.

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Feb 11, 2016 11:50:14   #
Singularity
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
It works for me. Try a different browser.


If the ability to reliably prophesy is proof of Godhood, then I, too, am a god. I get it right probably 15% of the time, depending on the subject....

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Feb 11, 2016 12:16:24   #
Little Ball of Hate
 
Singularity wrote:
If the ability to reliably prophesy is proof of Godhood, then I, too, am a god. I get it right probably 15% of the time, depending on the subject....


Biblical prophecy is 100 percent accurate.

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Feb 11, 2016 12:21:27   #
Singularity
 
Little Ball of H**e wrote:
Biblical prophecy is 100 percent accurate.


BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA.....

This one you posted a link for spends hundreds of words to explain that this failed prophesy didn't really fail......

You know, if it takes an apology (apologetics) to set something straight, it must have been crooked to begin with.

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