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Jan 28, 2016 12:12:35   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Pulfnick wrote:
Maybe it's time to watch the news. You just might see occasional mention of totally unprovoked Islamist attacks, at least as early as Reagan's time in recent history, dramatically accelerating in 2001. Sometimes it pays to pay attention rather than ignoring reality. Or can you explain how we provoked Muslims to h**e us?

You must know these sheep, of the Democratic party, only listen to their falsehoods and out right lies.
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Jan 28, 2016 12:27:27   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
trucksterbud wrote:
Just in case you were never exposed to the information, Bush directed his cabinet and advisors to design a strategy that would define "genocide" and then implement it in Iraq.. This is not my assumption or assertion, it is information available in text and video on the internet from various sources. This was the original intent of the Iraqi invasion.

I would point out, there was only small amounts of Mustard Gas - which the US gave Iraq in the late 1980's as a weapon of mass destruction.

There were NO operating fighter aircraft. In direct contradiction to the military's and Bush's statements. Only a small number were found - mostly hidden in orchards on backroads.

There were a vast number of Iraqi soldiers VERY ready to defect (and if you remember the news at the time, they DID.) to the protection of the Americans.

No, sorry, this was all orchestrated by the global criminal cabal using US POTUS and military might to enact the destruction of a society, and it continues to this day.

The destruction of the governments / societies in the middle east is well underway. All orchestrated by the Khazarian Mafia which is operated by out of - - - ,,, well you should know by now....
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You must be one of the sheep that believe anything that you see on the internet instead of checking out the information for yourself. All of you progressives are just so gullible it just shows, the intelligent ones of us, how your are driven by your compassion and not common sense and intellect.
Then there you go, like all progressives, blaming Bush again. It was the intelligence agencies that claimed that the Iraq government had chemical weapons not Bush. Get your head out from under a rock and try to be intelligent.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:32:25   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Then - where do you think the increased DoD budget is going? It certainly isn't going for personnel, so, it must be going for more "stuff", sold to us by the defense industry. You know, more drones and other "stuff".

Oh, BTW - Obama isn't responsible for the budget or how it's spent - that's the job of the Congress, You know, the one that the GOP has control of? :lol: :roll:


I guess that you do not know that the President has discretion to spend on things that he believes in and not what the people believe. In many agencies of the government the President can direct that agency to spend on what he wants.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:51:01   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama is the only one to blame for the mess in Iraq. Your attempt to grant absolution to your piece of garbage Obama is feeble. We will have to go back into Iraq in the future to wipe out the pestilence Obama unleashed there because it will threaten us.

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Jan 28, 2016 12:59:29   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama is the only one to blame for the mess in Iraq. Your attempt to grant absolution to your piece of garbage Obama is feeble. We will have to go back into Iraq in the future to wipe out the pestilence Obama unleashed there because it will threaten us.


What an ignorant comment. "Obama is solely too blame?" If you actually believe that, then you know nothing. The US' mideast agenda(keep the Russians out, keep the Arabs divided, keep control of those pipelines) has been in play for decades, and Obama has merely picked up where previous administrations have left off. In case you don't read to well, the poster rightfully acknowledges this and did not "grant absolution" to Obama...maybe you should try getting your info from somewhere other than right-wing h**e-Obama sites, maybe you'll learn something.

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Jan 28, 2016 13:04:57   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
Louie27 wrote:
You must be one of the sheep that believe anything that you see on the internet instead of checking out the information for yourself. All of you progressives are just so gullible it just shows, the intelligent ones of us, how your are driven by your compassion and not common sense and intellect.
Then there you go, like all progressives, blaming Bush again. It was the intelligence agencies that claimed that the Iraq government had chemical weapons not Bush. Get your head out from under a rock and try to be intelligent.
You must be one of the sheep that believe anything... (show quote)


You try taking your own advice. The fact is, every president of the last 25 years are culpable to some degree for the quagmire that is the MiddleEast.

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Jan 28, 2016 14:41:11   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
JMHO wrote:
And, it is all bulls**t! Sheeessshhhh, what the hell do you conspiracy theorists put in your coffee to make you so paranoid, and ignorant?


Camel urine!

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Jan 28, 2016 14:51:10   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
[quote=J Anthony]What an ignorant comment. "Obama is solely too blame?" If you actually believe that, then you know nothing. The US's Mideast agenda(keep the Russians out, keep the Arabs divided, keep control of those pipelines) has been in play for decades, and Obama has merely picked up where previous administrations have left off. In case you don't read to well, the poster rightfully acknowledges this and did not "grant absolution" to Obama...maybe you should try getting your info from somewhere other than right-wing h**e-Obama sites, maybe you'll learn something.[/quote

Obama has had the "football" for seven years, and fumbled on every play. There is no where on this earth that the political situation is better, where armed conflict is less severe o where totalitarianism is in retreat. Our economy is suffering from Obama's pen and telephone......He would have been replaced as quarterback on any other team in the league.....

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Jan 28, 2016 15:15:28   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
son of witless wrote:
Obama is the only one to blame for the mess in Iraq. Your attempt to grant absolution to your piece of garbage Obama is feeble. We will have to go back into Iraq in the future to wipe out the pestilence Obama unleashed there because it will threaten us.


son of witless-I agree !! In retrospect, , some could argue that if we had not been there in the first place Obama would not have had the opportunity to make that bad decision. However, we had a victory and all that was needed is more time to train the Iraquis to enable them to maintain stability in their country. Yes, we will have to go back in at some point if ISIS is to be wiped out. We need to be part of a coalition strong enough to leave no doubt as to the outcome. All prisoners should be turned over to the host country to be dealt with Muslim style. Obliteration in lieu of Incarceration might be the only way to rid ourselves of these pests. Good Luck America !!!

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Jan 28, 2016 15:22:17   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
[quote=peter11937][quote=J Anthony]What an ignorant comment. "Obama is solely too blame?" If you actually believe that, then you know nothing. The US's Mideast agenda(keep the Russians out, keep the Arabs divided, keep control of those pipelines) has been in play for decades, and Obama has merely picked up where previous administrations have left off. In case you don't read to well, the poster rightfully acknowledges this and did not "grant absolution" to Obama...maybe you should try getting your info from somewhere other than right-wing h**e-Obama sites, maybe you'll learn something.[/quote

Obama has had the "football" for seven years, and fumbled on every play. There is no where on this earth that the political situation is better, where armed conflict is less severe o where totalitarianism is in retreat. Our economy is suffering from Obama's pen and telephone......He would have been replaced as quarterback on any other team in the league.....[/quote]

I don't disagree, but those who profit from endless war continue to do so, and continue to call for escalations, regardless of who is president. No one in positions of power have clearly defined what a "victory" in this situation would look like, nor have they given the public any substantial answers on how to "win" a conflict specifically designed to go on indefinitely. So this is not a political issue, it is a systemic one, a fact that few people seem willing or able to grasp

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Jan 28, 2016 15:47:33   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
J Anthony wrote:
I don't disagree, but those who profit from endless war continue to do so, and continue to call for escalations, regardless of who is president. No one in positions of power have clearly defined what a "victory" in this situation would look like, nor have they given the public any substantial answers on how to "win" a conflict specifically designed to go on indefinitely. So this is not a political issue, it is a systemic one, a fact that few people seem willing or able to grasp
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The way to a victory over modern mohamadism is to utterly destroy their ability to wage war or organize.. Remember that they have declared war with us. They have been dispatching fifth columnist terrorists all over the world and in the USA , worst attack, 9-11-2001 . There have been more that 27,500 FATAL islamic attacks since then worldwide, and thousands of non fatal attacks. Should we remain passive, well that did not work out on 9-11 nor has i worked out well at any time in recorded history when facing an enemy with no grounding in western civilization's norms. In fact, pacifism failed miserably in Germany where they shed heir civilized behavior at the behest of a madman who gave nationalistic speeches....
We must do wh**ever it takes to defeat an enemy who prefers death to anything else. Your solution might be what?

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Jan 28, 2016 19:18:27   #
roy
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Omamba,,,, the destroyer,,,, bush handed him a victory,,, never send a boy to do a mans job

Never send hillary for anything,,,,


:cry: It's a war with no end and we are being destroyed!!! Iraq and Afghanistan are forever our destruction. I blame Bush and Obama for these battles of Hell, !!!!! never to end. God Help us!!! find Peace!!!. We have lost enough American Lives in this Pits of Hell !!!!! . Obama leave Iraq alone and let them deal with their own problems. We have enough of our own Problems here at home, without adding more Fuel to the Fire!!!!.
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Amen should never have been there you can do nothing for these people they will fight with each other till the end of time, get the hell out leave them people to fight its cost our country way to much to our young people being mangled how the people that put them there in the first could even sleep at night is beyound me.

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Jan 30, 2016 18:05:31   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
J Anthony wrote:
You try taking your own advice. The fact is, every president of the last 25 years are culpable to some degree for the quagmire that is the MiddleEast.


I agree with some of your statement. But the middle east uprising problem was started by Hillary and the Obama administration. Hillary started the Lebanon problem with the taking down of the Dictator that had control of the country up till that time and then getting the Muslim Brotherhood leader in as President. How did those situations work out?

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Jan 31, 2016 08:54:16   #
Ve'hoe
 
The military budget is down,, significantly,,,,



lpnmajor wrote:
Then - where do you think the increased DoD budget is going? It certainly isn't going for personnel, so, it must be going for more "stuff", sold to us by the defense industry. You know, more drones and other "stuff".

Oh, BTW - Obama isn't responsible for the budget or how it's spent - that's the job of the Congress, You know, the one that the GOP has control of? :lol: :roll:

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Jan 31, 2016 08:57:54   #
Ve'hoe
 
The first president to have to deal with muslim terror was George Washington,,,, dealing with the barbary Corsairs,,,,,,


Same crap,, kidnappings and murder,,,,,, nothing has changed,, and the Saudis are the ones who divide the other arabs,,,,, not us,,,,,,,

thats why ISIS h**es us,,, and why bin laden,,,, a saudi prince turned on them,,,,


J Anthony wrote:
You try taking your own advice. The fact is, every president of the last 25 years are culpable to some degree for the quagmire that is the MiddleEast.

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