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Jan 21, 2016 20:25:06   #
PeterS
 
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establishment yet in order to get anything done he will have to work with establishment republicans and democrats--both of whom detest Donald--so what exactly do you think Trump will be able to get done? And if he does work with the 'establishment' what will be your reaction, the anti establishment people who put him into office, be?

What are you, the anti establishment, looking for? Are you simply out to poke a stick in the eye of the establishment or are you actually trying to accomplish something? If you are, what makes you think Trump--someone who is nothing more than a chameleon--is your ticket to anti establishment Nirvana?

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Jan 21, 2016 20:27:47   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establishment yet in order to get anything done he will have to work with establishment republicans and democrats--both of whom detest Donald--so what exactly do you think Trump will be able to get done? And if he does work with the 'establishment' what will be your reaction, the anti establishment people who put him into office, be?

What are you, the anti establishment, looking for? Are you simply out to poke a stick in the eye of the establishment or are you actually trying to accomplish something? If you are, what makes you think Trump--someone who is nothing more than a chameleon--is your ticket to anti establishment Nirvana?
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establi... (show quote)
I'm not a 'Trumper', but the explanation is simple.

America wants a leader.

I'd prefer one without the ego of Obama or Trump. But at least Trump has accomplished something. And again, at least Trump wants America to succeed.

Democrats, OTOH, thrive on misery and dependence.

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Jan 21, 2016 20:39:08   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
PeterS wrote:
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establishment yet in order to get anything done he will have to work with establishment republicans and democrats--both of whom detest Donald--so what exactly do you think Trump will be able to get done? And if he does work with the 'establishment' what will be your reaction, the anti establishment people who put him into office, be?

What are you, the anti establishment, looking for? Are you simply out to poke a stick in the eye of the establishment or are you actually trying to accomplish something? If you are, what makes you think Trump--someone who is nothing more than a chameleon--is your ticket to anti establishment Nirvana?
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establi... (show quote)


Hell boy,, look what your hero did without congress :thumbup:

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Jan 21, 2016 20:52:02   #
son of witless
 
reconreb wrote:
Hell boy,, look what your hero did without congress :thumbup:



At least Trump's wife won't go around saying things like she is finally proud of her country. It might be a nice change to have a President and First Lady who actually love their country!

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Jan 21, 2016 21:00:14   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
PeterS wrote:
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establishment yet in order to get anything done he will have to work with establishment republicans and democrats--both of whom detest Donald--so what exactly do you think Trump will be able to get done? And if he does work with the 'establishment' what will be your reaction, the anti establishment people who put him into office, be?

What are you, the anti establishment, looking for? Are you simply out to poke a stick in the eye of the establishment or are you actually trying to accomplish something? If you are, what makes you think Trump--someone who is nothing more than a chameleon--is your ticket to anti establishment Nirvana?
The attraction of Trump is that he is anti establi... (show quote)


"The Establishment", is the problem. Hopefully, if Trump leads, the public will push congress to support him. If congress doesn't support Trump, we may get an almost all new congress in 2021!

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Jan 21, 2016 21:02:24   #
the waker Loc: 11th freest nation
 
son of witless wrote:
At least Trump's wife won't go around saying things like she is finally proud of her country. It might be a nice change to have a President and First Lady who actually love their country!





....and a first lady who actually looks like a lady, and not a dude. :shock: :thumbup:

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Jan 21, 2016 21:06:35   #
PeterS
 
Super Dave wrote:
I'm not a 'Trumper', but the explanation is simple.

America wants a leader.

I'd prefer one without the ego of Obama or Trump. But at least Trump has accomplished something. And again, at least Trump wants America to succeed.

Democrats, OTOH, thrive on misery and dependence.

So if Obama had gone bankrupt building Hotels you would feel better about him? And exactly what does Trump want America to succeed at?

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Jan 21, 2016 21:07:49   #
PeterS
 
Trooper745 wrote:
"The Establishment", is the problem. Hopefully, if Trump leads, the public will push congress to support him. If congress doesn't support Trump, we may get an almost all new congress in 2021!

How are you going to do that? Aren't you v****g for anti-establishment people now?

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Jan 21, 2016 21:08:29   #
PeterS
 
the waker wrote:
....and a first lady who actually looks like a lady, and not a dude. :shock: :thumbup:

Well, at least you have your priorities straight...

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Jan 21, 2016 21:27:47   #
PeterS
 
reconreb wrote:
Hell boy,, look what your hero did without congress :thumbup:

My hero did what without congress? T***p w*n't be able to build a wall without congress. He won't be able to start a war without congress. He won't be able in impose tariffs without congress. He won't be able to implement a tax cut without congress nor will he be able to eliminate Obama Care without congress. T***p w*n't be able to do anything you want without congress.

Unless Trump is going to self-finance all this you people need the establishment to accomplish your goals and yet if Trump were to work with the establishment he would then become part of them--a RINO--and the bane of all that conservative h**e. How are you going to get out of the corner you've painted yourself into? You h**e the establishment thus your support of Trump. The only way Trump can do what you want is to work with the establishment. And if he does, you will decapitate him for being a RINO and part of the establishment.

To me, it seems like you have created the perfect Catch-22. You can try to continue to replace the establishment but you aren't a majority in the Republican party and even if you were there is nothing you can do with the democrats so your hopes of gaining a majority are pretty much useless anyway. Watching you is like watching someone who is trying to masturbate but no matter what they do they just can't get off. It's an ugly site to begin with but all the more ugly when combined with your frustration.

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Jan 21, 2016 21:29:50   #
littlebit
 
the waker wrote:
....and a first lady who actually looks like a lady, and not a dude. :shock: :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I've never seen First Lady were muscle shirt before, she looks like she needs back to hood. Actually they call them African-Americans, I think they should eliminate Americans and just call them Africans and send them back to Africa so they can be Africans.

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Jan 21, 2016 21:36:08   #
PeterS
 
littlebit wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: I've never seen First Lady were muscle shirt before, she looks like she needs back to hood. Actually they call them African-Americans, I think they should eliminate Americans and just call them Africans and send them back to Africa so they can be Africans.

PTL, I'm sure you just said what every conservative out there thinks but are too PC to repeat. Well done. You have my nomination for conservative of the year and bigot of the week!

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Jan 21, 2016 22:14:55   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
PeterS wrote:
How are you going to do that? Aren't you v****g for anti-establishment people now?


There aren't enough "anti-establishment" candidates running this time. Hopefully, we can make a clean flush of the old establishment congress in '21.

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Jan 21, 2016 22:25:34   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
So if Obama had gone bankrupt building Hotels you would feel better about him? And exactly what does Trump want America to succeed at?
Like I said, Trump isn't my 1st pick.

That said, everyone fails, but Trump usually succeeded. He had 4 bankruptcies, true enough. But he had 100's of successes. Some grand successes.

Obama, OTOH, almost always fails at his job. Foreign policy, economics, Obamacare, immigration, race relations, t***sparency in government, national defense, defeating terrorists, the Veterans Admin, using the IRS as a partisan weapon. You name it, and chances are Obama failed at it.

That is, he failed America. I'm not naive to believe he could be that wrong that often by accident.

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Jan 21, 2016 22:27:08   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
Well, at least you have your priorities straight...


" Straight " priorities. :-D I hope so.

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