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Jan 17, 2016 11:09:03   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Antichrist is a NT term for Lucifer, Satan's counterfeit messiah. Jesus equates himself with God. John 10:30. "I and my Father are one". Christians refer to themselves as "prisoners" of Jesus, and in "captivity" and "bondage". Ephesians 3:1, 4:1. Colossians 4:3, 18. II Timothy 1:8. Philemon 1:1, 9-10. Isaiah 14:12-17. "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit...that opened not the house of his prisoners? The name Lucifer means "morning star" and that was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. "...I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star". II Timothy 2:26. "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will".

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Jan 17, 2016 12:31:56   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
susanblange wrote:
Antichrist is a NT term for Lucifer, Satan's counterfeit messiah. Jesus equates himself with God. John 10:30. "I and my Father are one". Christians refer to themselves as "prisoners" of Jesus, and in "captivity" and "bondage". Ephesians 3:1, 4:1. Colossians 4:3, 18. II Timothy 1:8. Philemon 1:1, 9-10. Isaiah 14:12-17. "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit...that opened not the house of his prisoners? The name Lucifer means "morning star" and that was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. "...I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star". II Timothy 2:26. "And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will".
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Why do you quote from something that you don't believe in and if I'm not mistaken have called false teachings?

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Jan 17, 2016 13:39:08   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Why do you quote from something that you don't believe in and if I'm not mistaken have called false teachings?


Job 31:35-36. "Oh that one would hear me! behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me". Satan means "adversary". The NT is the doctrine of Satan who has always wanted to be God. The NT is an addition to the Bible written as if the NT fulfilled the OT. The OT is complete and it requires no addition or elaboration. I quote the NT to point out the flaws in it, and its hidden meaning. Revelation 2:24. "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan..." IOW, if you espouse the NT, you have known the depths of Satan.

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Jan 17, 2016 14:45:06   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
susanblange wrote:
Job 31:35-36. "Oh that one would hear me! behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me". Satan means "adversary". The NT is the doctrine of Satan who has always wanted to be God. The NT is an addition to the Bible written as if the NT fulfilled the OT. The OT is complete and it requires no addition or elaboration. I quote the NT to point out the flaws in it, and its hidden meaning. Revelation 2:24. "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan..." IOW, if you espouse the NT, you have known the depths of Satan.
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I respectfully disagree. I declare that Jesus Christ is my Adon and believe in my heart that YHWH raised him from the dead. And to be perfectly honest, my wish would be for you to be saved by declaring and believing in your heart the same. But unfortunately you are being deceived by the father of lies. HOWEVER, it's my sincere hope that your eyes be opened before it's too late. But it is YOUR free will choice.

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Jan 17, 2016 16:59:46   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
I respectfully disagree. I declare that Jesus Christ is my Adon and believe in my heart that YHWH raised him from the dead. And to be perfectly honest, my wish would be for you to be saved by declaring and believing in your heart the same. But unfortunately you are being deceived by the father of lies. HOWEVER, it's my sincere hope that your eyes be opened before it's too late. But it is YOUR free will choice.


Jesus is prophesied in the OT not as the Messiah, but instead as the modern day idol of Israel. The NT is a book of myths and delusion and you have to be weaned from Christianity before you can understand the scriptures. The bottom line is that Jesus is dead and gone. The God of Israel is the living God and earth is "the land of the living". When God the Messiah comes to the earth, he will live amongst us forever and the entire OT will be fulfilled, not just select verses taken out of context. Jesus and his cohorts fulfilled no messianic prophecy but they did try. People who are deceived don't know it and Satan is very clever. He wants to take as many people to hell with him as he can. The Vatican is Babylon and God will destroy it forever.

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Jan 22, 2016 00:00:18   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
susanblange wrote:
Job 31:35-36. "Oh that one would hear me! behold; my desire is, that the Almighty would answer me, and that mine adversary had written a book. Surely I would take it upon my shoulder, and bind it as a crown to me". Satan means "adversary". The NT is the doctrine of Satan who has always wanted to be God. The NT is an addition to the Bible written as if the NT fulfilled the OT. The OT is complete and it requires no addition or elaboration. I quote the NT to point out the flaws in it, and its hidden meaning. Revelation 2:24. "...as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan..." IOW, if you espouse the NT, you have known the depths of Satan.
Job 31:35-36. "Oh that one would hear me! beh... (show quote)


Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? This is God talking because 31:35 and a lot more were words of men foolishly spoken to Job. You're getting your information from dumb people like these three persons. God corrected Job as to not listen to people who have dark counsel. You Susan are not rightly dividing the Word of God. You're being led astray, either by accident or design. Forget what you think you know and start again like a child with the love for God your Father.

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Jan 22, 2016 13:44:06   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
iFrank wrote:
Job 38:2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge? This is God talking because 31:35 and a lot more were words of men foolishly spoken to Job. You're getting your information from dumb people like these three persons. God corrected Job as to not listen to people who have dark counsel. You Susan are not rightly dividing the Word of God. You're being led astray, either by accident or design. Forget what you think you know and start again like a child with the love for God your Father.
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You've got your sources mixed up, Frank. Job spoke the word of God and it is a book of prophecy. Chapter 31 was spoken by Job, not one of his three friends. Job 6:10. "...for I have not concealed the words of the Holy One". Proverbs 9:10. "...and the knowledge of the holy is understanding". When God comes, he will teach us the scriptures. Proverbs 3:5. "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding". The scriptures are plain and clear and there is only one "interpretation". Christianity, with all it's denominations, each believing something different, is "wind and confusion". Isaiah 41:29.

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Jan 22, 2016 14:02:50   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
God called Moses up into mount Sinai where he fasted for forty days and forty nights. There was a covenant made between God, Moses, and Israel. Exodus 34:27-29. The covenant was the Decalogue. Conversely, Satan appeared to Jesus, also in a mount, and he also fasted forty days and forty nights. Matthew 4:8-9. The deal/covenant Satan made with Jesus was that he would be given all the kingdoms of the earth, if Jesus would worship and serve Satan. This covenant was between Satan, Jesus, and the Gentiles, including the lost house of Israel. Jesus came out of that encounter preaching the arrival of the kingdom of God/Heaven, which is a world ruling kingdom, also called the "New World Order". Jesus took the offer. Satan commissioned and sent Jesus who said, "...My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work". Jesus came for the wicked/sinners, and he has put strength in them. Ezekiel 13:22. The God of Israel, who Christians call "Antichrist" is coming for the righteous.

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Jan 22, 2016 16:01:45   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
susanblange wrote:
God called Moses up into mount Sinai where he fasted for forty days and forty nights. There was a covenant made between God, Moses, and Israel. Exodus 34:27-29. The covenant was the Decalogue. Conversely, Satan appeared to Jesus, also in a mount, and he also fasted forty days and forty nights. Matthew 4:8-9. The deal/covenant Satan made with Jesus was that he would be given all the kingdoms of the earth, if Jesus would worship and serve Satan. This covenant was between Satan, Jesus, and the Gentiles, including the lost house of Israel. Jesus came out of that encounter preaching the arrival of the kingdom of God/Heaven, which is a world ruling kingdom, also called the "New World Order". Jesus took the offer. Satan commissioned and sent Jesus who said, "...My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work". Jesus came for the wicked/sinners, and he has put strength in them. Ezekiel 13:22. The God of Israel, who Christians call "Antichrist" is coming for the righteous.
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Satan is the accuser of the brethren, even Jobs wife's was influenced because she told Job to curse God and die, satan told God that Job would curse Him if he would remove the protection that God had on Job. I'm going to give you a partial structure of this Book, 1:6 - 2:10 is satans assault as Job is stripped of all. 2:11 - 2:13. Jobs 3 friends arrive. 3:1 - 31:40 is Job friends talking folly and Job is trying to respond saying he was Righteous, in 32:1 -37:24 Elihu the mediator, God was listening, in38:1 - 42:6. This is where the chastisement of Job by God was written. This is what I'm talking about,...

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Jan 23, 2016 15:34:28   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
iFrank wrote:
Satan is the accuser of the brethren, even Jobs wife's was influenced because she told Job to curse God and die, satan told God that Job would curse Him if he would remove the protection that God had on Job. I'm going to give you a partial structure of this Book, 1:6 - 2:10 is satans assault as Job is stripped of all. 2:11 - 2:13. Jobs 3 friends arrive. 3:1 - 31:40 is Job friends talking folly and Job is trying to respond saying he was Righteous, in 32:1 -37:24 Elihu the mediator, God was listening, in38:1 - 42:6. This is where the chastisement of Job by God was written. This is what I'm talking about,...
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The book of Job is a very difficult book to understand. In the beginning of the book, we find Satan (Adam) in Heaven and he is called "son of God". (1:6, 2:1). Adam was the only literal son of God and his name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Job was in Satan's hand and the only limitation put on Satan was to spare Job's life. (2:6). Through Job's trials and tribulations, Job had to admit he was a sinner (7:20) and was vile (40:4). He also gained incredible strength of character and was called a "behemoth" which is a very strong person or animal. (40:15). "He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him". (Job 40:19). God molded the Messiah and Job is his prototype. The government will be laid on the shoulders of the Messiah. (Isaiah 9:6). The Lord is called "the Rock" (Deuteronomy 32) and the "Strength of Israel". (I Samuel 15:29). "What doesn't kill us makes us stronger".

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Jan 23, 2016 16:50:34   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
susanblange wrote:
The book of Job is a very difficult book to understand. In the beginning of the book, we find Satan (Adam) in Heaven and he is called "son of God". (1:6, 2:1). Adam was the only literal son of God and his name was changed to Satan when he died and went to Heaven. Job was in Satan's hand and the only limitation put on Satan was to spare Job's life. (2:6). Through Job's trials and tribulations, Job had to admit he was a sinner (7:20) and was vile (40:4). He also gained incredible strength of character and was called a "behemoth" which is a very strong person or animal. (40:15). "He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him". (Job 40:19). God molded the Messiah and Job is his prototype. The government will be laid on the shoulders of the Messiah. (Isaiah 9:6). The Lord is called "the Rock" (Deuteronomy 32) and the "Strength of Israel". (I Samuel 15:29). "What doesn't kill us makes us stronger".
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You must know that with all the persons "respectfully disagreeing with you that there must be something not kosher with your flavored doctrine. I have to decline with your interpretation of the scriptures. Like I said before, start over because you will not make it to heaven with your current stance on your religion. I can't wish you Godspeed but that you turn your life over to God through Christ Jesus the Savior.

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Jan 24, 2016 12:44:37   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
iFrank wrote:
You must know that with all the persons "respectfully disagreeing with you that there must be something not kosher with your flavored doctrine. I have to decline with your interpretation of the scriptures. Like I said before, start over because you will not make it to heaven with your current stance on your religion. I can't wish you Godspeed but that you turn your life over to God through Christ Jesus the Savior.


Christians are estranged from God thru their idols. Isaiah 6:10. "Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert , and be healed". You must be weaned from your idols before you can understand the plain meaning of scripture. Isaiah 28:9. "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts". The holy Spirit will eventually open your eyes to the Truth. Isaiah 29:18. "And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness". Isaiah 29:24. "They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine".

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Jan 24, 2016 12:59:01   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
You can't see that Christ is the only Way, you are not healed, Christ and satan are not the same, you have understood not the true word of Christ but lies from the deceiver. Emanuel is Christ Jesus. No one get to The God of Abraham but through Christ, He knows his own and His own know Him. NO Jesus, NO peace. KNOW Jesus, KNOW peace. Take heed lest you fall. Reread all your past replies and learn from it.

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Jan 24, 2016 13:52:57   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
iFrank wrote:
You can't see that Christ is the only Way, you are not healed, Christ and satan are not the same, you have understood not the true word of Christ but lies from the deceiver. Emanuel is Christ Jesus. No one get to The God of Abraham but through Christ, He knows his own and His own know Him. NO Jesus, NO peace. KNOW Jesus, KNOW peace. Take heed lest you fall. Reread all your past replies and learn from it.


Jesus was the great deceiver, but you are too blind to see that. Isaiah 7:14 says the name of the child born would be called Emanuel. That is not Jesus' name. Jarrett Lawrence Emanuel was born on April 4, 1984. It is also the exact date given by George Orwell on page 6 of his novel, 1984. The name Emanuel means "God with us". "Jarrett" is the anglicized version of Joshua in Hebrew, the same as Jesus in Greek, and it means "Lord is salvation". His mother lived and worked at the Jefferson hotel until he was born. 1984 was the "acceptable year of the Lord". Isaiah 61:2. The complete prophecy is Isaiah 7:10-16. "For before the child shall know to refuse the evil and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings". This verse hasn't happened yet, so the complete prophecy is yet to come to fruition.

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Jan 24, 2016 14:04:40   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
God said what little you have shall be taken

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