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Hear Ye !! Hear Ye !! Cruz Eligibility To Be Tested
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Jan 15, 2016 19:13:27   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
It's Finally Started:

Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit

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“This 229-year question has never been pled, presented to or finally decided by or resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court,”
Houston attorney Newton B. Schwartz Sr. said in his 28-page complaint.
“Only the U.S. Supreme Court can finally decide, determine judicially and settle this issue now.”
Glad To Get It Over With Now

And Not Contested By The I***t Left Later

Quote:
Claiming that “time is of the essence” because of the rapidly approaching Iowa caucuses and March 1 Super Tuesday primaries, Schwartz asked that the case be expedited for resolution by the nation’s highest court as soon as possible.
This Should Have Happened When He First Declared

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Jan 15, 2016 19:36:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
karpenter wrote:
It's Finally Started:

Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit

This Should Have Happened When He First Declared
So, now a liberal activist shyster is on the case. What a load of horse sh!t.

In case you didn't know this, the war on conservatives started a long time ago. This crap is just one more shot. Anything to distract the American people from the real issues we face.

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Jan 15, 2016 19:51:08   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
He Want's It To Go Straight To The US Supreme Court
So Do I

Pointing To Obama And Saying 'Look At You Guys'
Is School Yard Hissy Fits, Not Settled Law

Cruz Is Clearly A Plenty Sharp Tack
I Would Like For Him To Have A Fair, LEGAL Shot At The Title

I'm Afraid He Clearly Does Not Meet 'Natural Born' Qualification

But Now The Court Can Decide
I'm All For It

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Jan 15, 2016 20:17:35   #
IKE4Texas
 
What I have read of the Eligibility requirement for President and Vice President in the US Constitution, basically the age and be a natural born citizen of the United States of America or was living at the time when the US Constitution was written. I want to make it clear that this requirement applied only for those two positions. You could to a Judge, Representative or a Senator and no requirement for them. At that time you could been born in France, England, or some other country and could run for these important top offices and your parents could of been born from another country. But when they all died from that time, then both parents had to been born in the United States and the child had to be born in this country. Why is this so important? I believe that they held loyalty to this nation of the up most importance which is verified in the parents of the child. I understand that this was proven to hold true by Congress and by the Supreme Court in past history. Since this can be verified by researching the history of Congress and all the Supreme court cases of the past, I believe we have all evidence before our eyes in this life time of results for not enforcing the US Constitution. The question to ask is did you yes or no. Do not let them reason, they believe that the US Constitution is a living document and you will never impeach any high government official. Enforce the law. It is that simple, not politically correct but it is what our for fathers gave us as the standard to maintain keep t***h and justice and good conduct represented in this great nation. Please let me know if I am right or way out in left field.

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Jan 15, 2016 20:38:03   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
I Think You're Safely On Base

I Also Think The Wording Of The Law Is Clear For Anyone To Understand
...Unless One Is ACLU Or SPLC

But Like The Houston Lawyer, I Don't Think This Has Been Litigated
And He'd Know More About Case Law Than I

My Personal Un-Qualified Opinion Is:
American Mother, Foreign National Father
Born In A Nation Alien To Both Parents
= Not 'Natural Born Citizen'

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Jan 15, 2016 23:17:59   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
karpenter wrote:
It's Finally Started:

Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit

This Should Have Happened When He First Declared


What's all the hubub?
If he was pushed out through his mother's birth canal, and an American citizen when he took his first breath.....he is a 'natural born American!

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Jan 15, 2016 23:58:42   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Then It Wouldn't Matter If Obama Was Born In A Waddi In Kenya
So Why All The Secrecy Over All Obama's Records ??

Oh, And Don't Forget The Special Senate Conference Of John McCain's Eligibility
Mr. McCain Was Born To Two American Parents, Both Born In The United States Proper
And Was Born On Official United States Territory

To Some Degree, I Hope The Court Sees The Issue The Same As You
Maybe We Could Finally Find Out
Who This Fella In The White House NOW, Really Is

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Jan 16, 2016 01:15:44   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
karpenter wrote:
Then It Wouldn't Matter If Obama Was Born In A Waddi In Kenya
So Why All The Secrecy Over All Obama's Records ??

Oh, And Don't Forget The Special Senate Conference Of John McCain's Eligibility
Mr. McCain Was Born To Two American Parents, Both Born In The United States Proper
And Was Born On Official United States Territory

To Some Degree, I Hope The Court Sees The Issue The Same As You
Maybe We Could Finally Find Out
Who This Fella In The White House NOW, Really Is


Obama the shape shifting lizard man is always going to be good.
The fact that he is a proven liar, and fraud doesn't matter!
Having a man with a sealed background who has his finger on the nuclear trigger is allright isn't it?
It doesn't matter that he will fail his own background check for owning a gun due to his public admission to using illegal drugs.

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Jan 16, 2016 01:23:48   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
karpenter wrote:
It's Finally Started:

Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit

This Should Have Happened When He First Declared


They might as litigate Rubio as well. Neither of his parents were US Citizens when he was born...to my knowledge.

If you read past SCOTUS decisions, parental citizenship has been the turning fact in each case.

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Jan 16, 2016 02:02:18   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
AuntiE wrote:
They might as litigate Rubio as well. Neither of his parents were US Citizens when he was born...to my knowledge.
If They Were Here LEGALLY,
Then I Surmise He Might Be A Proper 'Anchor Baby'
And A Proper American Citizen
That Would Be An Interesting Case To Me

Quote:
If you read past SCOTUS decisions, parental citizenship has been the turning fact in each case.
I Don't Know Of One
But You're The Second Post To Bring That Up
Where Would I Start To Look Without Wasting More Time Than I Already Do ??

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Jan 16, 2016 03:38:42   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
karpenter wrote:
I Think You're Safely On Base

I Also Think The Wording Of The Law Is Clear For Anyone To Understand
...Unless One Is ACLU Or SPLC

But Like The Houston Lawyer, I Don't Think This Has Been Litigated
And He'd Know More About Case Law Than I

My Personal Un-Qualified Opinion Is:
American Mother, Foreign National Father
Born In A Nation Alien To Both Parents
= Not 'Natural Born Citizen'
Well, that is your "personal unqualified opinion'. And if that is the case, there are thousands of Americans who are not citizens, including John McCain, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio.

FYI:

President George Washington was born in Sulgrave, England.

President Martin Van Buren, whose real name was Maarten van Buren, was born in the Netherlands.

President James Garfield was born Joanes Gliszinski near Lodz, Poland.

President James Polk was born in Inverness, Scotland. (Trump's mother was born in Scotland)

President Millard Fillmore was born in Huddersfield, England.

President Teddy Roosevelt was born in London.

President John Tyler was born in Surrey, England

I heard the liberal law professor make his case today and he doesn't have a freaking clue what he was talking about. This "birther" attack on Cruz is a rabbit hole, and as the professor framed his case, it has a snow ball's chance in hell of ever making it to the SCOTUS.

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Jan 16, 2016 07:20:18   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Actually there are two lawsuits now filed..........one in Texas challenging Cruz to settle the issue.....another in Florida challenging Rubio......Ed Morrisey has something about both over at Hot Air........

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/15/of-course-lawsuits-filed-in-texas-florida-over-constitutional-eligibility/


The showdown over eligibility may shift from the political arena to the courts – at least, it might if two plaintiffs get their way. Both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio face legal challenges to their p**********l ambitions based on the circumstances of their birth. In Florida, the challenge comes from a v**er whose previous lawsuit against Barack Obama’s eligibility went nowhere, and names both Republican contenders. Rubio’s legal team didn’t exactly shrug it off, but asked the court to do so instead:

Well, that would at least put an end to the debate, although it’s doubtful that the district court will pass the case directly to the Supreme Court. At least thus far, Cruz has not had the opportunity to file a brief in this case, but it will probably follow along the same lines as Rubio’s motion in Florida, asking to dismiss it outright. Who knows, though? Cruz did a pretty good job of arguing his case last night, and might relish representing himself at the Supreme Court in an emergency hearing — assuming that the Supreme Court would bother to hear it, which is a fairly large assumption at this point.

Don’t get your hopes up, though. The courts steered very far clear of this issue with Obama, and there’s no reason to think they want to get themselves ensnared in this debate now. If Congress wants to clarify the phrase “natural-born citizen,” they have plenty of room to do so, and the courts will probably be happy in this one instance to send the controversy to Capitol Hill.

<snip> More to article I just stopped with the above.......

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Jan 16, 2016 08:44:50   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
karpenter wrote:
It's Finally Started:

Cruz’s ‘Natural-Born Citizen’ Status Tested
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-15/cruz-s-natural-born-citizen-status-challenged-in-birther-suit

This Should Have Happened When He First Declared


Actually, a member of the i***t left is the one who filed suit. An 85 year old attorney from TX. A declared supporter of Bernie Sanders. Is that left enough for you?

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Jan 16, 2016 10:16:38   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
I Rather It Start Now Than After The Convention

Obama Was A Fluke, A Mistake
We Still Don't Know Anything About Who This Guy Is
Nothing At All

I Don't Want Total Un-Known, Off The Street
To Be The Bar Of Qualification

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Jan 16, 2016 12:11:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
karpenter wrote:
I Rather It Start Now Than After The Convention

Obama Was A Fluke, A Mistake
We Still Don't Know Anything About Who This Guy Is
Nothing At All

I Don't Want Total Un-Known, Off The Street
To Be The Bar Of Qualification



No way around it and once the SCOTUS confirms they hush about it!!

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