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Obama's Trump Card
Oct 4, 2013 10:40:37   #
timmh67 Loc: USA...West Coast
 
Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group analyst Greg Valliere predicted that if the debt-ceiling deadline grew closer, President Barack Obama would play his “trump card” in the debate. He would remind seniors that if Congress doesn’t raise the debt ceiling, seniors wouldn’t get their Social Security checks.

“GOP strategists like Karl Rove surely know that it’s just a matter of time before President Obama throws a game-changer — warning senior citizens that their Social Security checks won’t be mailed because of John Boehner."

A few hours later, Obama did just that during a speech at M. Luis Construction Company in Rockville, Md. He spent much of the speech warning that while the ongoing government shutdown was damaging, failure to raise the debt ceiling by an Oct. 17 deadline would be even worse.

This is so funny, Obama, without his teleprompter is lost for proper words. I have never seen such a childish man.

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Oct 4, 2013 11:04:53   #
grey gringo Loc: South Texas
 
Social security checks should be sent out because people have paid in to that system. However, Snap benefits, SSI payments, bank bailouts,farm subsidies, etc, all forms of redistributive payments should be withheld. This would bring the whole problem of the nanny state to the forefront force a debate on resolving our problems.
timmh67 wrote:
Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group analyst Greg Valliere predicted that if the debt-ceiling deadline grew closer, President Barack Obama would play his “trump card” in the debate. He would remind seniors that if Congress doesn’t raise the debt ceiling, seniors wouldn’t get their Social Security checks.

“GOP strategists like Karl Rove surely know that it’s just a matter of time before President Obama throws a game-changer — warning senior citizens that their Social Security checks won’t be mailed because of John Boehner."

A few hours later, Obama did just that during a speech at M. Luis Construction Company in Rockville, Md. He spent much of the speech warning that while the ongoing government shutdown was damaging, failure to raise the debt ceiling by an Oct. 17 deadline would be even worse.

This is so funny, Obama, without his teleprompter is lost for proper words. I have never seen such a childish man.
Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group ana... (show quote)

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Oct 4, 2013 11:07:55   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
This trick is wearing thin so go ahead hold SS checks and find yourself out of a job.


timmh67 wrote:
Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group analyst Greg Valliere predicted that if the debt-ceiling deadline grew closer, President Barack Obama would play his “trump card” in the debate. He would remind seniors that if Congress doesn’t raise the debt ceiling, seniors wouldn’t get their Social Security checks.

“GOP strategists like Karl Rove surely know that it’s just a matter of time before President Obama throws a game-changer — warning senior citizens that their Social Security checks won’t be mailed because of John Boehner."

A few hours later, Obama did just that during a speech at M. Luis Construction Company in Rockville, Md. He spent much of the speech warning that while the ongoing government shutdown was damaging, failure to raise the debt ceiling by an Oct. 17 deadline would be even worse.

This is so funny, Obama, without his teleprompter is lost for proper words. I have never seen such a childish man.
Early Thursday morning, Potomac Research Group ana... (show quote)

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Oct 4, 2013 11:55:06   #
partipoodle
 
Sorry, Social Security and thr ACA are off the table. He fights for the people who n qeed help the most. Bush, among others, tried to defund fema,but they are the first to cry for help and the compassion of tpresident. What is wrong with this picture? Help based on need. Imaginat. Being denied care because of age.sex. medical condition,class, race, financial resources,.What a novel idea. Conditional care will increase stock profits. You are as d********g as the gop congress.
Social Security(which I depend on to survive a serious disability). Survival is not a trump card. It is a promise and a commitment to care for our weakest citizens.Boner has no moral authority to play games with these lives while he continues to guarentee his his own well being.

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Oct 4, 2013 12:05:14   #
timmh67 Loc: USA...West Coast
 
partipoodle wrote:
Sorry, Social Security and thr ACA are off the table. He fights for the people who n qeed help the most. Bush, among others, tried to defund fema,but they are the first to cry for help and the compassion of tpresident. What is wrong with this picture? Help based on need. Imaginat. Being denied care because of age.sex. medical condition,class, race, financial resources,.What a novel idea. Conditional care will increase stock profits. You are as d********g as the gop congress.
Social Security(which I depend on to survive a serious disability). Survival is not a trump card. It is a promise and a commitment to care for our weakest citizens.Boner has no moral authority to play games with these lives while he continues to guarentee his his own well being.
Sorry, Social Security and thr ACA are off the tab... (show quote)


You and obama are d********g Progressive socialists Libs..We will continue to get our social securty checks even with the government shut down.

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Oct 5, 2013 15:28:13   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Checks, payments, cash, the us dollar is the next bubble

Google/search... us dollar global reserve currency

Defaulting is not being able to pay interest on all these Treasury bills. There is money to do that. The issue is the "unfunded liabilities". Look at the bottom row of this spread sheet. http://usdebtclock.org/

We have mathematically already gone over the cliff. We can't grow our way out of it, borrowing more will make the impact at the bottom harder.
Buy vegetable seeds now (they are cheep), $10 bucks of seed now, can't hurt-->even if I turn out to be a total crack pot.

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Oct 5, 2013 15:32:38   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
timmh67 wrote:
You and obama are d********g Progressive socialists Libs..We will continue to get our social securty checks even with the government shut down.


Yes, with a government shutdown, you will get SS checks. What Obama was talking about is the refusal to raise the debt ceiling. Different cat all together. Debt ceiling is paying the check for the bills we have ALREADY spent. If the US defaults on its debts on October 17th, social security checks will not go out. Let see how many TP'ers feel that strongly about Obamacare to give up their social security checks. You do not understand that the TP'ers are playing with fire with this shutdown.

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Oct 5, 2013 15:34:53   #
John Deere
 
partipoodle wrote:
Sorry, Social Security and thr ACA are off the table. He fights for the people who n qeed help the most. Bush, among others, tried to defund fema,but they are the first to cry for help and the compassion of tpresident. What is wrong with this picture? Help based on need. Imaginat. Being denied care because of age.sex. medical condition,class, race, financial resources,.What a novel idea. Conditional care will increase stock profits. You are as d********g as the gop congress.
Social Security(which I depend on to survive a serious disability). Survival is not a trump card. It is a promise and a commitment to care for our weakest citizens.Boner has no moral authority to play games with these lives while he continues to guarentee his his own well being.
Sorry, Social Security and thr ACA are off the tab... (show quote)


Is the disability in your head? Social Security is direct deposit. If you're still getting your Social Security by mail delivered check, it shows me that you're not capable of taking care of your affairs. Everyone I know that is paid by direct deposit received their monthly payment.

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Oct 5, 2013 17:04:42   #
timmh67 Loc: USA...West Coast
 
AnnMarie wrote:
Yes, with a government shutdown, you will get SS checks. What Obama was talking about is the refusal to raise the debt ceiling. Different cat all together. Debt ceiling is paying the check for the bills we have ALREADY spent. If the US defaults on its debts on October 17th, social security checks will not go out. Let see how many TP'ers feel that strongly about Obamacare to give up their social security checks. You do not understand that the TP'ers are playing with fire with this shutdown.
Yes, with a government shutdown, you will get SS c... (show quote)


Thank you for clearing that up AnnMarie...Time will tell. October 17th.

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