4430 wrote:
Overall, Id argue that the who increased the debt more? debate is rather silly. The bottom line is that Bush and Obama have continued an American tradition thats been the norm my entire lifetime: spending without regard to revenues.
The US debt has little effect on the economy
This is the real story:
We hold the following t***hs to be self-evident but our website will answer your doubts.
1. World War II finally ended the Great Depression as all that Congressional spending went into war bonds bought by Americans working double shifts and Sundays for four years. After the war, the cashed-in bonds bought cars and homes and finally gave us the prosperity that only required ENOUGH government spending, as Hitler had also proven.
2. Congressional spending on infrastructure is effectively almost doubled as it ripples from consumer to merchant to supply-chain employee/consumer, etc. The GDP growth induced by moderate post-war inflation plus spending on GI housing and education, the Marshall Plan, nuclear energy, the Korean War, rearmament, the Interstate Highway System, NASA, Vietnam, etc., dropped our Debt/GDP ratio from a war-time 120% to 30% in 35 years. The Congressional Budget Office uses a very conservative 1.6 multiplier.
3. Our Treasury borrows the annual federal budget deficit not because Congress needs money but only to drain just enough of bank reserves to enable the Fed to stay on its targeted federal funds interest rate, the basis of other rates. When Congress has a budget surplus, US debt instruments become scarce and Wall Street gets panicky!
4. Congressional spending tends to increase our GDP growth rate and as long as our GDP growth rate exceeds the Fed's interest rate, our national debt can grow indefinitely and safely. (Check the math:
http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/?docid=1379.).
5. A Constitutional amendment requiring that annual federal budgets be balanced would be a deflationary disaster for our economy. Congress' deficit spending is needed to replace the dollars exported by our annual trade deficit. A trade surplus would permit an equivalent budget surplus. Thats why Germany can balance its budget and we cant.
6. Our optimum budget goal is: Budget Deficit = Trade Deficit + Private Savings. Less spending would increase unemployment; more spending would increase inflation. So, Congressional spending is limited ONLY by the onset of harmful inflation controlled by the Fed with moderate long-term interest rates and by Congress with adequate progressive federal tax on discretionary incomes, financial t***sactions, and estates.
7. The US dollars reserve currency status (which favors US consumers and exporters) requires our Treasury to maintain a large national debt, much of it owned by foreigners.
8. The Feds purchase of US debt decreases interest rates, increases bank deposits, and shifts a potential debt problem into a potential inflation problem, which, if it happens, the Fed will fight with raised interest rates to discourage borrowing and investing.
9. Wars are won with infrastructure and we need as much as we can get. We should now be building enough to stay well ahead of a China going 24/7. Since a pot-hole may delay a vital delivery, all infrastructure is necessary for defense. Since Congress is responsible for national defense, it should pay for all infrastructure, including pot-holes, day-care, K-PhD education, and healthcare, all of which are NECESSARY for national defense. Of course, state and local governments would administrate most infrastructure, coordinating their project schedules with the Administration to avoid inflation,
10. If foreigners want to sell us their goods, they must accept our dollars. If they refuse our dollars, we will get our jobs back and make our own goods. But they will always want a strong dollar, earned through productivity gained from infrastructure.
11. Increased output for the same input is anti-inflationary so Congress will not cause harmful inflation by hiring idle unemployed labor to get infrastructure and productivity.
12. One quitting ones high-paying job for a lower-paying job to cut ones taxes is just crazy. Congress cutting spending to cut taxes is crazier. More than tax cuts, we need infrastructure and technology. In the past, Congress gave us t***sistors, integrated circuits, computers, the internet, solar and wind energy, LCD and touch-screens, GPS, the mouse, SIRI, jet planes, rocket ships, robots, genomics, and a slew of pharmaceutics.
13. High spending with sufficiently high tax revenue can produce lower budget deficits than low spending with low tax revenue. And produce added infrastructure!
14. While excessive unemployment exists, excessive deficits are due only to low tax revenue, not Congressional spending that hires the unemployed to build infrastructure.
15. The existence of excessive unemployment implies a failure of Congress to provide infrastructure for our national defense. Congress members who refuse to hire the idle for building infrastructure are endangering our existence as a free nation as well as betraying our Founding Fathers demand that we
promote the general Welfare and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and to POSTERITY. V**ers, your adorable grandchildren will thank you for the arsenal you provided for them. Start taking names!
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T***hs supplied by Marvin Sussman are derived from the following sources:
*Austerity (Oxford U. Press) by Mark Blyth, Brown U. Professor of International Political Economy.
*Freedom from National Debt (Two Harbors Press) by Frank N. Newman, former Deputy Secretary of the US Treasury, recipient of the Treasurys annual Alexander Hamilton award.
*Modern Money Theory (Palgrave Macmillan) by L. Randall Wray, UMKC Economics Dept.
*NewEconomicPerspectives.org by Dr. Stephanie Kelton, Chairperson, UMKC Economics Dept. *Seven Deadly Frauds of Economic Policy (Oxford U. Press) by Warren Mosler, economist.
*The T***h about the National Debt: Five Myths and One Reality (Harvard Business School Press) by Francis X. Cavanaugh, US Treasury economist for over 30 years.