godisreal

Who thinks that the next big thing will not be increasing our already to large and to much of a s**m debt. The government thinks that money is for the pleasure, for instance IRS. They should be dismantled and go to a non branch of the government to colllect taxes. Fire them all in the IRS>

faithistheword

Too many times in our history, the Conservatives have not fought the liberals when they "Executive Order" illegal laws, like the Federal Income Tax. It was unconstitutional then, and it's unconstitutional today. So is obamacare, but my hope is that Ted Cruz and Mike Lee have scared the Republicans, as well as the democrats into following the majority of the citizens who do not want that a*********n. Maybe there will be many more who want it k**led, after the mess the last couple of days at the exchanges.

godisreal

If I understand it right 20 republicans have caved in on obama care. This only gives obama more steam to roll over us even more and move on to his next socialist plan. I figure the next one will to be to destory our coals industry.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

"Too many times in our history, the Conservatives have not fought the liberals when they "Executive Order" illegal laws, like the Federal Income Tax"

They will keep doing that as long as we keep reelecting them. Go with what works.

mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana

We would not need such a large IRS if we didn't have the ~70,000 pages of tax code on the books. Unfortunately, think of the number of tax lawyers, CPA, and accountants that would no longer have a job trying to find ways for people and companies, who can afford the, to evade paying their "fair share" of taxes. We need to simplify the tax code greatly, but the lobby and special interest groups have far more interest in keeping it as complex, and even more complex than it is, as possible.

Taxes are an evil necessity, but when there are billions of dollars each year spent trying to comply with or find ways to skirt around the tax laws, there is something seriously wrong the system.

It is the politicians, main Democrats and Liberals, who want to "maintain the status quo", a statement consistently attributed to the Republicans and Conservatives, with plenty of those same Republicans and Conservatives who like the current system because of the power it gives them over the people. If people really took the time to compare their income with the amount of money paid in the various tax expenditures each year, they would be amazed. Some estimates, with all the blatant AND all the more obscure taxes, put the amount at just over 70%. Obviously, the lower the income the less that value becomes.

godisreal

I totally agree that taxation is just part of life. I do not agree with the the branches of the government spending it on things that are just to far to the left. IRS has gotten to powerful and it needs to be either shut down or brought under control. I have heard we need to shut it down and replace it with a sales tax. I do not know about that one but know that the IRS needs to have some thing done to it.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

That was the thought of Thomas Jefferson - a national sales tax. There was no income tax until WWI

mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana

The same could be said for things that are just "too far right" as well. But, then again, who determines what is "too far left" and "too far right"? Some of the people might believe what you think as "too far left" as not being far enough left. It is all a matter of perspective.

The Federal Government should only handle things that affect the greater number of people, but they now want to have the power to micromanage all the people.

Agreed.

mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana

[very sarcastically)BUT THE POOR!!! We cannot have the poor paying taxes, IT WOULD NOT BE FAIR. A National Sales Tax would make the poor have to pay taxes.

Oh, wait, there has been a proposal for years talking about The Fair Tax that would create a National Sales Tax and help all people with certain tax burdens.

All the information one could ask for regarding the "FAIR"est tax proposal to date.
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

There was no income tax until the Federal Reserve was created. Read The Creature From Jeycll Island

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Already ordered it. I expect to be 110% cynical once I finish reading it. :lol:

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

Big Mike I think you will be more than cynical after reading this book. You more than likely will be frustrated, angry, and rebellious. angry

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

I'm a 12 stepper. I have a vehicle for dealing with those feelings :mrgreen:

feduptohere

The answer to our problems lies with the v**ers. Starting
right now (Virginia selects a new governor in November),
first, v**e out the incumbents who have been in office more
than one term, and second, v**e conservative until we clean out the House and Senate. And bombard your
congressman and senators with demands for term limits.

mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana

Have to disagree here. We need to v**e Constitutionalist and Libertarian with some Moderate Democrats and Republicans. The hard-core and hard-nosed Right- and Left-wingers have to go. But, that is just my opinion.