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Jan 3, 2016 03:58:05   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
prove this is not true

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Jan 3, 2016 04:16:34   #
RWNJ
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
prove this is not true


Depends on what you mean by good. I would say that babies are born innocent. This is not equivalent to good. Good implies that one knows the difference between right and wrong.

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Jan 3, 2016 04:39:51   #
PeterS
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
prove this is not true

I know we were born naked. I can't prove the rest...

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Jan 3, 2016 06:44:55   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RWNJ wrote:
Depends on what you mean by good. I would say that babies are born innocent. This is not equivalent to good. Good implies that one knows the difference between right and wrong.
Good means good. A newborn is good not capable of being bad.

:idea: ;-)

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Jan 3, 2016 06:48:22   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
PeterS wrote:
I know we were born naked. I can't prove the rest...
I have helped bring newborn cattle into this world. the first thing they need to do is suck on their momma. A human is no different. Do you see evil in the newly born?

:idea:

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Jan 3, 2016 06:50:32   #
RWNJ
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Good means good. A newborn is good not capable of being bad.

:idea: ;-)


Nope. Good is only possible when one knows right from wrong. A baby is neither good nor bad. They do not understand the concept. Therefore, a baby is incapable of being good...or bad. That's why the proper term is innocent.

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Jan 3, 2016 06:54:29   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RWNJ wrote:
Nope. Good is only possible when one knows right from wrong. A baby is neither good nor bad. They do not understand the concept. Therefore, a baby is incapable of being good...or bad. That's why the proper term is innocent.
innocent is good. is it not good to be innocent?

:-D :-D :?:

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Jan 3, 2016 07:08:57   #
RWNJ
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
innocent is good. is it not good to be innocent?

:-D :-D :?:


Innocence is ignorance. Babies are neither good nor bad. Like I said. The concept is totally foreign to them.

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Jan 3, 2016 07:20:47   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
prove this is not true


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Coos, you got that right, only you left out kicking and screaming, as it was nice, warm and cozy where they were at. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 3, 2016 07:21:31   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
RWNJ wrote:
Innocence is ignorance. Babies are neither good nor bad. Like I said. The concept is totally foreign to them.
That is good . A newborn is incapable of being bad so they must be the opposite

:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 3, 2016 07:23:56   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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Coos, you got that right, only you left out kicking and screaming, as it was nice, warm and cozy where they were at. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


:thumbup: :thumbup: The world is better with moms
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Jan 3, 2016 07:37:05   #
RWNJ
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
That is good . A newborn is incapable of being bad so they must be the opposite

:thumbup: :thumbup:


Would you consider crying and waking mommy up three times a night to be good? :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jan 3, 2016 07:41:39   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
RWNJ wrote:
Would you consider crying and waking mommy up three times a night to be good? :twisted: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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How else is that wee one going to eat, they can't say "hey, I'm hungery."

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Jan 3, 2016 07:56:03   #
RWNJ
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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How else is that wee one going to eat, they can't say "hey, I'm hungery."


My point exactly. They do not know what good and bad are. Therefore, they cannot be good. They just are. they operate on instinct. Nothing more.

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Jan 3, 2016 07:59:21   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
RWNJ wrote:
My point exactly. They do not know what good and bad are. Therefore, they cannot be good. They just are. they operate on instinct. Nothing more.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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