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NOW WHOSE FAULT IS IT THE GOVERNMENT IS SHUT DOWN?
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Oct 2, 2013 15:40:56   #
godisreal
 
* Republicans are against Obamacare while Democrats are for it.

* Republicans tried to delay the law to give them more time to work out the problems, but Democrats said the law is flawless now and didn’t need to wait.

* Republicans tried to get rid of the busines- k*****g medical device tax, but Democrats v**ed to keep it in place.

* Republicans think Congress should live under the same laws as everyone else while Democrats think Congress should be exempt from the laws they pass for everyone else.

So far, the Republican Party hasn’t taken any damage, while the Democrats have taken v**es that will cost them seats next year. So, Ted Cruz’s strategy is working out great so far. Now, we get to see if Boehner can capitalize on all the mistakes the Democrats are making or whether he’s just not up to the job of being Speaker of the House.

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Oct 2, 2013 15:44:17   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
godisreal wrote:
* Republicans are against Obamacare while Democrats are for it.

* Republicans tried to delay the law to give them more time to work out the problems, but Democrats said the law is flawless now and didn’t need to wait.

* Republicans tried to get rid of the busines- k*****g medical device tax, but Democrats v**ed to keep it in place.

* Republicans think Congress should live under the same laws as everyone else while Democrats think Congress should be exempt from the laws they pass for everyone else.

So far, the Republican Party hasn’t taken any damage, while the Democrats have taken v**es that will cost them seats next year. So, Ted Cruz’s strategy is working out great so far. Now, we get to see if Boehner can capitalize on all the mistakes the Democrats are making or whether he’s just not up to the job of being Speaker of the House.
* Republicans are against Obamacare while Democrat... (show quote)


I hope you're right, however most of the press presents this quite differntly than it is, and most folks who pay minimal attention think the distorted picture they see is the whole story. However, I will join you in hoping and do what I can to get folks to look deeper than they usually do.

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Oct 2, 2013 15:50:05   #
godisreal
 
THE STOCK MARKET HAS JUST IGNORED IT AND IT HAS RISEN. THE ONLY THING THAT IS HAPPENING IS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO ON LINE TO SEE ABOUT INSURANCE. THIS IS A TERRIBLE LAW, THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY THING TO DO IT. IF IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR US PEOPLE THEN IT IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THIS IS MY BIGGEST GRIP HERE. WHY EXEMPT YOURSELF FROM SUCH A GOOD LAW?
ALSO THE DOCTORS ARE NOT GOING TO EXCEPT OBAMA CARE, TOO MANY REGULATIONS. THIS THING IS OVER 2000 PAGES LONG. OBAMA DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT ALL IS IN IT. IT IS REALLY TIME TO FOR PEOPLE THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT LET CROOK PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT DO IT FOR THEM.

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Oct 2, 2013 15:56:00   #
buddy55
 
Ted Cruz's is a joke...

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Oct 2, 2013 15:56:35   #
JimMe
 
Speaker Boehner & the GOP CongressFolk as a whole should realize We the People KNOW FIRST HAND ObamaCare will CRIPPLE US & "STICK TO THEIR GUNS"...

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Oct 2, 2013 16:02:06   #
godisreal
 
BUDDY WHO IS JOKE HERE THE JOKE IS ON US NOT TED CRUZ. THE CREATORS OF THIS BAD LAW EVEN SAID IT IS A TRAIN WRECK. THIS IS WHY OBAMA IS FIGHTING SO HARD HE WANT THE ECONOMY TO FALL. TED HAS IT RIGHT.

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Oct 2, 2013 16:06:10   #
CJakobsson
 
The details of the Affordable Care Act should not be attached to legislation to keep the rest of the government paid for. This is something that should be taken up as part of the regular Congressional agenda. There are probably things that should be changed in the Affordable Care Act, as it was passed in a hurry with a lot of last minute amendments attached to it, and it was being v**ed on by people who had never had time to read it in its entirety.
Having said all that, it is good to remember that all indications point to a desire on the part of those who tied the defunding of Obamacare to the continued funding of the rest of the government, to do deliberate damage to the country. It is for that reason that we can surmise that if Obama were to make concessions now on the Affordable Care Act, that the Tea Party would move on to some other issue, and use that other issue to hold a gun to the head of the rest of the country and do more damage. There is every reason to believe that the shutting down of the government has been a primary objective of the Tea Party throughout this entire episode.

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Oct 2, 2013 16:06:28   #
godisreal
 
IN MY OPINION SOME OF THE REPUBICANS ARE JUST PLAIN SCARED OF LOSING THEIR JOBS. THEY WILL GIVE IN. THE CHICKEN LIVER THEY WILL BE OUT OF JOB NEXT E******NS. THAT IS IF WE STILL HAVE ONE.

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Oct 2, 2013 16:10:14   #
godisreal
 
DID U EVEN HEAR THE STATEMENT THAT OBAMA MADE ABOUT RAISING THE DEBT CELLING. HE SAID RAISING THE DEBT CELLING WILL NOT EFFECT THE DEBT. NOW WHAT MORAN WOULD BELIEVE THAT ONE. IF U HAVE A CREDIT CARD WITH A LIMIT OF 5000 AND U REACH THAT BUT WANT MORE MONEY AND ASK TO HAVE THE LIMIT RAISED. WHAT DO U THINK THE CREDIT CARD COMPANY WILL TELL U.

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Oct 2, 2013 16:10:59   #
godisreal
 
THIS IS THE NEXT ONE COMING DOWN THE PIKE NOT. HE WILL DEMAND RAISE THE DEBT CELLING IF THEY GIVE IN TO THIS ONE.

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Oct 2, 2013 16:12:47   #
godisreal
 
HAVE HEARD THAT 7 REPUBLICANS HAVE DEFECTED NOW OBAMA NOW JUST NEEDS 5 MORE AND HE HAS WON. WHAT A RULER WE HAVE.

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Oct 2, 2013 17:37:32   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
CJakobsson wrote:
The details of the Affordable Care Act should not be attached to legislation to keep the rest of the government paid for. This is something that should be taken up as part of the regular Congressional agenda. There are probably things that should be changed in the Affordable Care Act, as it was passed in a hurry with a lot of last minute amendments attached to it, and it was being v**ed on by people who had never had time to read it in its entirety.
Having said all that, it is good to remember that all indications point to a desire on the part of those who tied the defunding of Obamacare to the continued funding of the rest of the government, to do deliberate damage to the country. It is for that reason that we can surmise that if Obama were to make concessions now on the Affordable Care Act, that the Tea Party would move on to some other issue, and use that other issue to hold a gun to the head of the rest of the country and do more damage. There is every reason to believe that the shutting down of the government has been a primary objective of the Tea Party throughout this entire episode.
The details of the Affordable Care Act should not ... (show quote)


Exactly You change laws by GETTING ELECTED. Getting v**es. Getting bills passed into law. Not by taking hostages. Baggers are a threat to democracy. 'Nice government you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it.'
GOP are terrorists!

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Oct 2, 2013 17:41:03   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
Dave wrote:
I hope you're right, however most of the press presents this quite differntly than it is, and most folks who pay minimal attention think the distorted picture they see is the whole story. However, I will join you in hoping and do what I can to get folks to look deeper than they usually do.


Yeah. Cuz it is the job of the press to analyze and present the Facts. Tea baggers are at fault. Obama cannot negotiate w terrorists

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Oct 2, 2013 18:38:52   #
godisreal
 
This is a common spin for the obama administration. If people have not caught by now they never will. Mark my word they will be the loudest to complain when the spin is showing not to be true.

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Oct 3, 2013 08:43:07   #
Schuler Loc: Santa Fe NM
 
Again--too many people not paying attention to reality. The Republicans are only offering to meet and discuss more demands. The have (and nothing has changed) v**ed to k**l ACA 43 times. What they really want is a 'meeting' where the Dems 'capitulate' to their demand to k**l the ACA-in exchange for passing the/a budget. And the Dems already agreed to compromise, multiple times. What do you think 'caused' the administration to exempt business-duuuh-- a compromise? What do you think the sequester is? What do you think the agreement is regarding the total budget amount. The Tea Party has no intention to agree to any 'compromise'-and they won't even accept YES for an answer when they get it! . They intend to dismantle our government and Democratic institutions piece by piece-law by law! Are you listening to their speeches? Wake up America -Ted Cruz is an enemy of the working class and the nation. Hmmm-is it treason to openly work AGAINST the laws of the country? The ACA is the LAW-passed by Congress (BOTH houses) and ruled 'constitutional' by the 'highest' court in the land. All this blather about the public not wanting a 'failed' program? Huh-it ain't even been implemented-like started yet. The overwhelming initial response should be a wake up for those who have doubts-get the facts-you are gonna like it!. The leaders of Republicans and the Tea Party are 'LIARS"-with a capital L.

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