fredlott63

Satan
He is criminally insane. The scripture we will be covering is Isaiah 14:12 – 21. I will cover each verse because satan is more powerful than me. He puts thoughts in your mind that make no sense. You have to use your higher intellect. All Jesus used when tempted by satan was the word of God. The word of God has been expanded beyond the torah or the first five books written by Moses. If the word of God is all Jesus used then it is all I need. For this lesson you will need an Old King James bible. Once again we will cover Isaiah 14:12 through 21. It is best to read the verses in an Old King James bible and then read the comments.
Verse 12
Lucifer means light bringer. He is supposed to be intelligent but because he was unique he lost his mind. Light brings clarity. An example would be going to the bathroom in the middle of the night if you have small children. Unseen obstacles may be right in front of you, but you won’t see them unless you turn on the light. The light brought by satan is really darkness. The things he suggests don’t make any sense. His arguments are emotionally driven but weak on logic.
Verse 13 & 14
Satan wants to be God. He is who he is and cannot be anyone else. He has to settle for being worshipped as God by those who don’t know God.
Verse 15 through 17
This is satan’s future. We will see him for who he is and realize we were deceived. We wouldn’t have been deceived if we had thought things out.
Verse 18
When politicians and entertainers die, they get special graves and funerals. Their loss of life is looked at as a loss for all.
Verse 19 & 20
Satan won’t be like that. He will not be missed. I used to be a substitute teacher and nobody missed the class clown when they were put out of class. Before God returns, people will be cruel and selfish, to the point that they won’t even bury their dead. Right now we claim to be saved while we have murdered 60,000,000 infants before they have had a chance to take their first breath. When we realize that we did these things under satan’s influence, he won’t be missed, loved, or worshiped.
Verse 21
Satan’s children have been building cities since Genesis.

susanblange Loc: USA

Lucifer and Satan are two different people but together they comprise the Devil. Adam is Satan the serpent, and Lucifer is his counterfeit Messiah. The name "Lucifer" means morning star and that was who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. Both Adam and Lucifer's names were changed when they died and went to Heaven. They were saved to be reincarnated in the last days and both have a role to play. It says in the NT that Jesus was the second or last Adam. The real Messiah is the seed of Eve.

fiatlux

I do not need now or ever Satan to err. Satan is worldliness, the allure of this life over the next. The whisper of survival, success, safety, comfort, control, and certainty. All sins! They are not of faith. Own a gun? Total lack of faith.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Twisted logic.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Even more twisted logic. Where, in the Bible, does Satan die; except in relation to the 2nd coming? Rev 22:16 makes NO mention to any name changes. Where/when did Adam's name change? Jesus'? You must make this up as you go along.

"The real Messiah is the seed of Eve." By what authority do you decide to change gender within canonized scripture? Through Judeao-Christian history, bloodlines are determined by the father, not the mother. When you were born, what was your last name? Was it your mother's maiden name, or your father's surname (last name)?

Traditionally, in many European countries, for the past few hundred years, it was the custom or law that a woman would on marriage use the surname of her husband and that children of a man would have the father's surname. If a child's paternity was not known, or if the putative father denied paternity, the new-born child would have the surname of the mother. That is still the custom and law in many countries. The surname for children of married parents is usually inherited from the father.

Theologically, you're as lost as a ball in tall grass. And, to make matters worse, you seem to think that simply by calling to it, it'll come bouncing back to you.

Sorry to burst your bubble. But, it don't work that way. 1st: It doesn't come to you. You have to go searching for it. "Seek and you shall find ... ."

2nd: The name you need to call out is: "Jesus, Son of the Most High." Contrary to what you say, Jesus isn't the devil. Never was. Never will be. No matter how hard you want to change it.

susanblange Loc: USA

In Isaiah 27:1, God kills Satan. Both Adam's and Jesus' names were changed when the died and went to Heaven. The children of Eve are the righteous and the children of Adam are the wicked. Genesis 3:15. The "one seed" of Eve is the Messiah and through him the whole world will be blessed.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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No, it's not speaking of the devil. (1) Leviathan the piercing serpent.—Rather, fleet, or fugitive. The verse paints in vivid symbolic language the judgment of Jehovah on the great world-powers that had shed the blood of His people. The “sword of the Lord” (primarily, perhaps, representing the lightning-flash) is turned in its threefold character as sore, and swift, and strong, against three great empires. These are represented, as in Ezekiel 17:3; Ezekiel 29:3 Daniel 7:3-7, by monstrous forms of animal life. The “dragon” is as in Isaiah 51:19; Psalm 74:13-14; Ezekiel 29:3; Ezekiel 32:2, the standing emblem of Egypt: the other two, so generically like, that the “leviathan” (“crocodile” in Job 41:1, but here, probably, generically for a monster of the serpent type) serves as a common type for both, while each has its distinctive epithet, may refer respectively to Assyria and Babylon, the epithets indicating (1) the rapid rush of the Tigris and the tortuous windings of the Euphrates; and (2) the policy characteristic of each empire, of which the rivers were looked upon as symbols, one rapidly aggressive, the other advancing as by a sinuous deceit. By some commentators, however, Egypt is represented in all three clauses; while others (i.e. Cheyne) see in them the symbols not of earthly empire, but of rebel powers of evil and darkness, quoting Job 26:12-13 in support of his view.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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First, Jesus' lineage is traced through David, not Mary. Secondly, from the genealogies of Matthew 1 and Luke 3 we know that both Joseph and Mary were from the tribe of Judah and the House of David.

Joseph was a descendant of Solomon’s (Matt. 1:6) and therefore a member of the royal line (Luke 2:4). But at the time of the Babylonian captivity the Lord had cursed the royal line, saying no son of Jehoiachin’s would ever sit on the throne of David (Jeremiah 22:30). This disqualified all of his descendants, including Joseph.

Mary was from the line of Solomon’s brother Nathan, (Luke 3:31). So she was also of the house of David, although not in the royal line.

When they married, Joseph became the Lord’s legal father, in effect adopting Him. Being the biological son of Mary, He was of the house of David. As the adopted son of Joseph, Jesus gained legal standing in the lineage of David as well. But since He was not Joseph’s biological son he escaped the curse and became the only man in the last 2600 years qualified to take the throne of His ancestor David, as the angel Gabriel promised He would (Luke 1:32).

Nice try, Susie; but, no cigar. :thumbdown:

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Susie, when will you try to introduce "Luluwa" (Cain's alleged twin sister) to your audience? I suppose you believe in the "1st and 2nd Books of Adam and Eve." How about the "Book of Enoch?" Do you hold Dante's "Inferno" to be part of your canon? Gnosticism and pseudepigrapha are rampant in your home-made "theology."

susanblange Loc: USA

Adam was the apple tree, or Tree of Knowledge and the serpent was part of his anatomy. SOS 8:5. "...I raised thee up under the apple tree: there thy mother brought thee forth: there she brought thee forth that bare thee". The name "leviathan", in itself, means "huge serpent". Adam, whose new name is Christian, was in the Guinness Book of World Records in the early eighties for the biggest "serpent" in the world. The picture was anonymous and only from the waist down, but it looked just like him. The "crucifixion" was a sexual act of torture, and during it, Satan pierced the Messiah 5 times. Hence, "leviathan the piercing serpent". See also Job 20:25.

susanblange Loc: USA

The lineage of Jesus you're promoting is totally convoluted, ala. Even if Jesus was a descendant of David, and if Joseph was his father, he comes from Jeconiah who, along with his seed, was precluded from ever ascending the throne. His seed includes Jesus. Matthew 1:11. You're right that the royal Davidic blood line is traced thru and inherited by the male. (Until the Messiah comes). This means that Mary does not qualify.

susanblange Loc: USA

WHAT? I think you're projecting, ala. Put the lighter down and step away from the bong.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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How can you totally misconstrue the Creation story? The "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil" was in the Garden when Adam and Eve were told NOT to eat of its fruit.

The "... Guinness Book of World Records in the early eighties... " publishes a picture that you take as an historically accurate depiction of Adam; from the waist down, no less. And you accuse me smoking something.

"The picture was anonymous and only from the waist down, but it looked just like him. The "crucifixion" was a sexual act of torture, and during it, Satan pierced the Messiah 5 times." How can you say "... the picture looked just like him.?" Were you around the Garden when Adam was around? I hope you can realize just how ridiculous you sound.

I'm sorry if I sound cruel, but YOU'RE the one projecting. You're projecting the sexual assault you claim your father committed against you when an infant and are now using it to redirect your feelings about religion. Crucifixion is NOT an act of sexual torture. There are any number of records from antiquity that can verify the act of crucifixion. You need not take my word for it.

Your fixation on sex, and especially oral sex, is obvious, based on your previous claims of parental incest. However, you've allowed it to twist your view of religion.

As far as I'm concerned, until you realize your mistakes and how you've allowed satan to rule your mind, and change your ways, our conversations are done. I wish you no ill will. But, you're one sick puppy. You desperately need 'professional help.'

fiatlux

Satan is as powerful as you or me or anyone.

Cm4tablyNum Loc: Nastyville

I haven't posted in months. ... this topic intrigued me. ... he is in the beginning. .. according to the scriptures I've read. ... he's a liar and the master of deceit. .... how do you know him. ... ? Not by association. ... but by how you think you know yourself. ..?
He knows his destiny. .. as I think we all do...he's been given time to play as we have....
Don't think he's a fool. ..... he was foolish and will pay in the end. ...
He just plays us all. .....
Have you ever known the end to a story?
And kept it to yourself?