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Dec 21, 2015 06:21:26   #
fredlott63
 
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. There is a sin not unto death according to 1 John 5:17. The worst sins are those that involve hurting other people. While we all are sinners, we are not all murderers. I'll admit to having a problem giving things to moochers but I don't cheat on my wife. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and according to Proverbs 22:15, “foolishness is bound in the heart of a child”. We all come into this world as children. It is impossible to grow up, and reach adulthood without doing something. As we mature we should sin less and less. We are all sinners but the sins we commit at 20 should not be the sins we commit at 50.

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Dec 21, 2015 13:57:16   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. There is a sin not unto death according to 1 John 5:17. The worst sins are those that involve hurting other people. While we all are sinners, we are not all murderers. I'll admit to having a problem giving things to moochers but I don't cheat on my wife. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and according to Proverbs 22:15, “foolishness is bound in the heart of a child”. We all come into this world as children. It is impossible to grow up, and reach adulthood without doing something. As we mature we should sin less and less. We are all sinners but the sins we commit at 20 should not be the sins we commit at 50.
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. ... (show quote)


Good point. As we grow and mature as Christians, hopefully we are able to put some sins, even habitual sins and strongholds in our lives behind us. I understand this as God slowly sanctifying us. He says he will finish the work He began in us. I believe Him. :thumbup:

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Dec 22, 2015 00:19:12   #
fiatlux
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. There is a sin not unto death according to 1 John 5:17. The worst sins are those that involve hurting other people. While we all are sinners, we are not all murderers. I'll admit to having a problem giving things to moochers but I don't cheat on my wife. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and according to Proverbs 22:15, “foolishness is bound in the heart of a child”. We all come into this world as children. It is impossible to grow up, and reach adulthood without doing something. As we mature we should sin less and less. We are all sinners but the sins we commit at 20 should not be the sins we commit at 50.
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. ... (show quote)


Sorry, that is utterly ridiculous. It is not about sin; it is about love. Yet every sin is equal in effect and consequences no matter how seemingly insignificant as missing a birthday. As Christians, we are about discerning soul from spirit, the finite from the infinite. Rules of behavior are poorly adopted in this perception. Someone who was severely abused has a diminished capacity to see the wrong they do. Love looks deeply, not closely as in judgment. It discerns what is needed to liberate this soul from its obsession. The sin is not what they do but what has been done to them.

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Dec 22, 2015 07:07:08   #
fredlott63
 
fiatlux wrote:
Sorry, that is utterly ridiculous. It is not about sin; it is about love. Yet every sin is equal in effect and consequences no matter how seemingly insignificant as missing a birthday. As Christians, we are about discerning soul from spirit, the finite from the infinite. Rules of behavior are poorly adopted in this perception. Someone who was severely abused has a diminished capacity to see the wrong they do. Love looks deeply, not closely as in judgment. It discerns what is needed to liberate this soul from its obsession. The sin is not what they do but what has been done to them.
Sorry, that is utterly ridiculous. It is not about... (show quote)


Do you have any ideas of your own are you just going to criticize mine?

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Dec 22, 2015 11:04:37   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Do you have any ideas of your own are you just going to criticize mine?


Hey Fred. Flatlux has a rather twisted view of Christianity, but a few of us have not given up on her. There may be something in her that is seeking the truth. I do not know this for sure, but remain hopeful. So, proceed with caution my friend.

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Dec 22, 2015 11:37:10   #
fredlott63
 
Rufus wrote:
Hey Fred. Flatlux has a rather twisted view of Christianity, but a few of us have not given up on her. There may be something in her that is seeking the truth. I do not know this for sure, but remain hopeful. So, proceed with caution my friend.


I knew something was wrong. Any bad idea she holds on to will only hurt her and those around her.

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Dec 22, 2015 19:11:05   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. There is a sin not unto death according to 1 John 5:17. The worst sins are those that involve hurting other people. While we all are sinners, we are not all murderers. I'll admit to having a problem giving things to moochers but I don't cheat on my wife. We all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and according to Proverbs 22:15, “foolishness is bound in the heart of a child”. We all come into this world as children. It is impossible to grow up, and reach adulthood without doing something. As we mature we should sin less and less. We are all sinners but the sins we commit at 20 should not be the sins we commit at 50.
Every sin is not equal in effect or consequences. ... (show quote)


I don't agree at all and I don't think Jesus would either.

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Dec 23, 2015 06:12:55   #
fredlott63
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
I don't agree at all and I don't think Jesus would either.


That is your right.

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Dec 24, 2015 01:00:10   #
fiatlux
 
fredlott63 wrote:
Do you have any ideas of your own are you just going to criticize mine?


Is what I said your idea?

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Dec 24, 2015 01:07:02   #
fiatlux
 
Rufus wrote:
Hey Fred. Flatlux has a rather twisted view of Christianity, but a few of us have not given up on her. There may be something in her that is seeking the truth. I do not know this for sure, but remain hopeful. So, proceed with caution my friend.


I am not saying that my "twisted view of Christianity" is correct but worth consideration. How is your view more valuable or proper? (I know the answer and have heard it a few hundred times in twenty years, and it never made any real sense.)

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Dec 24, 2015 06:05:03   #
fredlott63
 
fiatlux wrote:
Is what I said your idea?


no

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Dec 24, 2015 06:06:41   #
fredlott63
 
fiatlux wrote:
I am not saying that my "twisted view of Christianity" is correct but worth consideration. How is your view more valuable or proper? (I know the answer and have heard it a few hundred times in twenty years, and it never made any real sense.)


If the word is hid, it is hid to them that are lost.

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Dec 24, 2015 17:48:01   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
fiatlux wrote:
I am not saying that my "twisted view of Christianity" is correct but worth consideration. How is your view more valuable or proper? (I know the answer and have heard it a few hundred times in twenty years, and it never made any real sense.)


My view is taught to me by the Holy Spirit while reading God's Word.

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Dec 25, 2015 14:35:00   #
susanblange Loc: USA
 
Israel is commanded by God to be a "kingdom of priests and a holy nation". Righteousness is not that difficult but holiness is. It is a life long process and I've been working on it myself for over thirty years. I think I've finally achieved it, because God answers my requests and petitions promptly and completely. I also hope I never lose favor.

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Dec 25, 2015 15:58:41   #
Rufus Loc: Deep South
 
susanblange wrote:
Israel is commanded by God to be a "kingdom of priests and a holy nation". Righteousness is not that difficult but holiness is. It is a life long process and I've been working on it myself for over thirty years. I think I've finally achieved it, because God answers my requests and petitions promptly and completely. I also hope I never lose favor.


Bless you Susan. May you always remain in God's grace and favor. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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