Of The, By The For The: Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped? Of the people, by the people for the people: or Of the...

octive9

Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped?

Of the people, by the people for the people:

or

Of the corporations, by the corporation, for the corporations:

Dems 70% people 30% corporations
Reps 10% people 90% corporations

What do you think?

Loki Loc: Georgia

octive9 wrote:

Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped?

Of the people, by the people for the people:

or

Of the corporations, by the corporation, for the corporations:

Dems 70% people 30% corporations
Reps 10% people 90% corporations

What do you think?

I think your figures are off. Last two e******ns, Democrats received slightly more corporate donations than Republicans. Before that, I don't have the figures.

octive9

Aside from donations, look at the legislation they support.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

octive9 wrote:

Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped?

Of the people, by the people for the people:

or

Of the corporations, by the corporation, for the corporations:

Dems 70% people 30% corporations
Reps 10% people 90% corporations

What do you think?

Between corporations, unions and superpacs maybe 2% of Washington politicians may actually give a s**t about what's best for the nation

Loki Loc: Georgia

BigMike wrote:

Between corporations, unions and superpacs maybe 2% of Washington politicians may actually give a s**t about what's best for the nation

What did I tell you about optimism?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

banjojack wrote:

What did I tell you about optimism?

Its one of my greatest failings :lol:

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

octive9 wrote:

Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped?

Of the people, by the people for the people:

or

Of the corporations, by the corporation, for the corporations:

Dems 70% people 30% corporations
Reps 10% people 90% corporations

What do you think?

I think you know not what you speak of. There have been innumerable reports that corporations hedge their bets by donating to both.

The Democrats certainly talk a god game; however, spend a lot of time at VERY high ticket per plate dinners with Hollywood and New York business people.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

octive9 wrote:

Aside from donations, look at the legislation they support.

Which someone has to pay for.

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

octive9 wrote:

Both Democrats and Republican bow to the corporations that fund them, but how are the scales tipped?

Of the people, by the people for the people:

or

Of the corporations, by the corporation, for the corporations:

Dems 70% people 30% corporations
Reps 10% people 90% corporations

What do you think?

I think you are one of those insanely jealous, grossly uninformed people who despise anything or anybody who has been successful in private enterprise.
You despise those who sign your paycheck.

octive9

hprinze wrote:

I think you are one of those insanely jealous, grossly uninformed people who despise anything or anybody who has been successful in private enterprise.
You despise those who sign your paycheck.

I don't like paying taxes any more than anyone else. However, there should be some concept of fairness. CEO's getting tens of millions of dollars to run companies into the ground while paying workers so little that the need government hand outs to survive is not "Fair and Balanced."

Loki Loc: Georgia

octive9 wrote:

I don't like paying taxes any more than anyone else. However, there should be some concept of fairness. CEO's getting tens of millions of dollars to run companies into the ground while paying workers so little that the need government hand outs to survive is not "Fair and Balanced."

Or competitive. I have offered to run several companies into the ground, with a written guarantee I can do it twice as fast for half as much bonus.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

octive9 wrote:

I don't like paying taxes any more than anyone else. However, there should be some concept of fairness. CEO's getting tens of millions of dollars to run companies into the ground while paying workers so little that the need government hand outs to survive is not "Fair and Balanced."

What you describe is a symptom of a far larger problem, but I agree with this much; banks and corporations must be allowed to fail. The government has no business cosigning the bulls**t of a corporation by bailing them out with money they print, that we're already so far underwater on that we can't possibly avoid a crisis that will make the present one look like a picnic.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

BigMike wrote:

What you describe is a symptom of a far larger problem, but I agree with this much; banks and corporations must be allowed to fail. The government has no business cosigning the bulls**t of a corporation by bailing them out with money they print, that we're already so far underwater on that we can't possibly avoid a crisis that will make the present one look like a picnic.

As a small microcosm of t big to fail and how to make them less big let me provide the following. One or two smaller communities managed to make the "too big to fail" branch banks 80% irrelevant in their towns. It actually started with a few churches. The church finance committees started looking at bank charges, interest paid, interest charged, etc. They went bank shopping and started moving their money to small local and regional banks and credit unions. They then went one step further. They started telling their congregants about the better rates, service and so forth . The congregants followed the churches path and moved their accounts, etc to the smaller local and regional banks. It was very effective. Can you say grassroots activism? :-)

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

AuntiE wrote:

As a small microcosm of t big to fail and how to m... (show quote)

Those are such nice words! I think if we are to make a change it will have to happen on that level. National politics have become too much of a black hole.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

BigMike wrote:

Those are such nice words! I think if we are to make a change it will have to happen on that level. National politics have become too much of a black hole.

The evil genie took over. Of course they "are such nice words." Aunti said them, which makes them "nice". :roll: