Abominations
Dec 7, 2015 07:18:28 #
Abominations
When you see the word abominations what does it mean? It means something horrendous. Eating spoiled food is an abomination. We should learn from Deuteronomy that man doesnt by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. In other words, there is more to this life than pleasing the immediate desires of the flesh. We should consider the consequences of our actions. The best thing we can do to educate ourselves is to read the bible. There are things we do and mindsets we have that are as disgusting to God as eating spoiled food would be to us. Lets analyze eating food. When food is fresh and we are hungry, we eat and the food strengthens us. If we are hungry and we eat spoiled food it will make our stomach ache, or make us sick, or vomit. You cannot digest rotten meat. Only satan would want you to think it is okay to commit abominations. By the way, it is not a sin or an abomination to cuss. God looks at us when we commit abominations like we look at eating rotten food. This is what is meant by Isaiah 28:8. Imagine going to your favorite buffet filled with all kinds of meats, vegetables, starches, and breads. Now imagine a place that served road kill, vomit, excrement and filth. Of course no one would eat there. If you really think about it, what is being taught in church doesnt make sense. How can Jesus be the head of your life while you ignore every sermon He preached, parable He taught, and miracle He performed? In church religious entertainers tell us things that dont happen and we think God will punish us if we dont listen to them, when Gods word tells us that God did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but that through Him the world would be saved. God looks at when we commit abominations like we look at spoiled food. Because the church of Laodicea was neither hot nor cold, they made God want to vomit. If God is God then do what He says, but if man speaking for God is God then obey what they say. (Sooner or later you will realize not only dont they know what they are talking about but they dont esteem you very highly). What are some actions that God considers an abomination? Before we get started we should remember that God came to this planet and wrote with His finger in stone 10 commandments that we should obey. They would only benefit society if taught and practiced.
· Cheating and dishonest practices Proverbs 11:1
· A perverse heart where you think it is okay to praise God and steal -Proverbs 11:20
· Lying or deliberately misrepresenting the truth Proverbs 12:32
· Same-sex relationships -Leviticus 18:22
· Calling bad men good and good men bad Proverbs 17:15
It is true that we are all sinners. If God considers an act an abomination then we shouldnt do it.
When you see the word abominations what does it mean? It means something horrendous. Eating spoiled food is an abomination. We should learn from Deuteronomy that man doesnt by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. In other words, there is more to this life than pleasing the immediate desires of the flesh. We should consider the consequences of our actions. The best thing we can do to educate ourselves is to read the bible. There are things we do and mindsets we have that are as disgusting to God as eating spoiled food would be to us. Lets analyze eating food. When food is fresh and we are hungry, we eat and the food strengthens us. If we are hungry and we eat spoiled food it will make our stomach ache, or make us sick, or vomit. You cannot digest rotten meat. Only satan would want you to think it is okay to commit abominations. By the way, it is not a sin or an abomination to cuss. God looks at us when we commit abominations like we look at eating rotten food. This is what is meant by Isaiah 28:8. Imagine going to your favorite buffet filled with all kinds of meats, vegetables, starches, and breads. Now imagine a place that served road kill, vomit, excrement and filth. Of course no one would eat there. If you really think about it, what is being taught in church doesnt make sense. How can Jesus be the head of your life while you ignore every sermon He preached, parable He taught, and miracle He performed? In church religious entertainers tell us things that dont happen and we think God will punish us if we dont listen to them, when Gods word tells us that God did not send His son into the world to condemn the world, but that through Him the world would be saved. God looks at when we commit abominations like we look at spoiled food. Because the church of Laodicea was neither hot nor cold, they made God want to vomit. If God is God then do what He says, but if man speaking for God is God then obey what they say. (Sooner or later you will realize not only dont they know what they are talking about but they dont esteem you very highly). What are some actions that God considers an abomination? Before we get started we should remember that God came to this planet and wrote with His finger in stone 10 commandments that we should obey. They would only benefit society if taught and practiced.
· Cheating and dishonest practices Proverbs 11:1
· A perverse heart where you think it is okay to praise God and steal -Proverbs 11:20
· Lying or deliberately misrepresenting the truth Proverbs 12:32
· Same-sex relationships -Leviticus 18:22
· Calling bad men good and good men bad Proverbs 17:15
It is true that we are all sinners. If God considers an act an abomination then we shouldnt do it.
Dec 8, 2015 22:31:22 #
fredlott63 wrote:
Abominations br When you see the word abominations... (show quote)
It would be a really good idea if you looked up what abomination meant to the Jews at that time; it is not what you said.
Dec 9, 2015 01:12:42 #
fiatlux wrote:
It would be a really good idea if you looked up what abomination meant to the Jews at that time; it is not what you said.
I don't care what any man thinks.
Dec 9, 2015 08:14:58 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Again, you seem to be a little less than well informed. Fred is correct. There are three words in Hebrew that translates to abomination--toʿevah, שֶׁקֶץ --shekeẓ, sheqeẓ, or שִׁקּוּץ --shikkuẓ, shiqquẓ, and פִּגּוּל --piggul; toʿevah is the most important of this group, and it appears over 100 times in the Old Testament as a noun and 23 times as a verb. But all three words convey a singular meaning.... all aberrations detestable to G*d, including purely ethical offenses.
fiatlux wrote:
It would be a really good idea if you looked up what abomination meant to the Jews at that time; it is not what you said.
Dec 13, 2015 01:09:30 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Again, you seem to be a little less than well info... (show quote)
Abominations had to do due with the ritual cleansing of priests.
Dec 13, 2015 06:15:23 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Rumitoid,
As usual you provide a short comment without any sources or authority. I strongly suggest that you do some studying before you just willy-nilly write what you think is applicable. You could be doing harm to others; some people may accept you as an authority.
As usual you provide a short comment without any sources or authority. I strongly suggest that you do some studying before you just willy-nilly write what you think is applicable. You could be doing harm to others; some people may accept you as an authority.
fiatlux wrote:
Abominations had to do due with the ritual cleansing of priests.
Dec 15, 2015 00:21:47 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Rumitoid,
As usual you provide a short comment without any sources or authority. I strongly suggest that you do some studying before you just willy-nilly write what you think is applicable. You could be doing harm to others; some people may accept you as an authority.
As usual you provide a short comment without any sources or authority. I strongly suggest that you do some studying before you just willy-nilly write what you think is applicable. You could be doing harm to others; some people may accept you as an authority.
Am I wrong, if you know so much about it?
Dec 15, 2015 01:45:40 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Yes, Rumitoid you are wrong and yes I do know more about it than you.
Ablution, in which you refer is an obligation for all, not just the Priest, in your case, or Rabbi. There a three kinds of Ablution, recognized in Biblical and rabbinical law: (1) Washing of the hands, (2) washing of the hands and feet, and (3) immersion of the whole body in water. Washing one's hands is required before and during the preparation of food, after using the restroom, changing a child.... Washing the hands and feet, is required when one is performing religious duties. And a full immersion of the bible:
Full immerision is performed in a natural fountain, stream or a mikweh.
No leper or unclean person of the seed of Aaron could eat of holy flesh until he had washed his whole body in water (Lev. xxii. 4-6).
When a leper was healed of his leprosy, he shaved off his hair, offered up the prescribed sacrifices, washed his clothing, bathed his person in water, and became clean (Lev. xiv. 8, 9).
Any person who came into contact with the body of, or with articles of furniture used by, a person having an unclean issue, or with any article used by him, was obliged to wash both his body and his garments, and was unclean for a whole day (Lev. xv. 5-10).
A sufferer from an unclean issue to be clean required immersion of the whole person (Lev. xv. 16, 18).
Whoever touched a woman who is in Menstruation, or any article used by her, required immersion of the whole person (Lev. xv. 19-27).
A native Israelite or a proselyte eating unclean flesh of a beast which had died of itself, or had been torn, became thereby unclean for a day, and was obliged to wash his whole body (Lev. xvii. 15).
The priest who tended the red heifer, itself intended as a rite of purification, became unclean for a day and was obliged to wash his whole body (Num. xix. 7, 8).
Whoever came into contact with a corpse or a grave was unclean for seven days. On the third and seventh days he was sprinkled with water in which ashes from the burnt carcass of the red heifer had been dissolved. On the seventh day he washed his whole body and his garments in water and became clean (Num. xix. 19).
Among the ceremonies at the installation of priests was the washing of the whole body (Ex. xxix. 4, xl. 12).
The Levites were purified by having water of the sin-offering sprinkled upon them (Num. viii. 15).
The only priestly function still observed among Jews as a part of the public worship is the blessing of the people. On festivals and holy days, the descendants of Aaron pronounce upon the congregation the threefold benediction (Num. vi. 24-26). On this occasion the Levites pour out the water for the priests at the washing of hands, which takes place previous to the benediction, and for which a sitcher and basin, both usually of silver, are used.
Now an abomination, that is very different. No amount of washing will make it better. The only way to get out of this ..... complete repentance and you can not keep committing the thing that causes G*d disgust or hatred. In other words, if you do it then repent and never do it again.... Among the objects described in the Old Testament as "abominations" in this sense are heathen gods, such as Ashtoreth (Astarte), Chemosh, Milcom, the "abominations" of the Zidonians (Phoenicians), Moabites, and Ammonites, respectively (2 Kings 23:13), and everything connected with the worship of such gods.
Everything akin to magic or divination is likewise an abomination to G*d; as are sexual transgressions (Deuteronomy 22:5; 23:18; 24:4), especially incest and other unnatural offenses:
"For all these abominations have the men of the land done, that were before you" (Leviticus 18:27; compare Ezekiel 8:15). It is to be noted, however, that the word takes on in the later usage a higher ethical and spiritual meaning: as where "divers measures, a great and a small," are forbidden (Deuteronomy 25:14-16); and in Proverbs where "lying lips" (Proverbs 12:22), "the proud in heart" (Proverbs 16:5), "the way of the wicked" (Proverbs 15:9), "evil devices" (Proverbs 15:26), and "he that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the righteous" (Proverbs 17:15), are said to be an abomination in G*d's sight. At last prophet and sage are found to unite in declaring that any sacrifice, however free from physical blemish, if offered without purity of motive, is an abomination: `Bring no more an oblation of falsehood--an incense of abomination it is to me' (Isaiah 1:13; compare Jeremiah 7:10). "The sacrifice of the wicked" and the prayer of him "that turneth away his ear from hearing the law," are equally an abomination (see Proverbs 15:8; 21:27; 28:9).
And there are more:
Somewhat further down on the list of abominations is the act of eating an unclean animal (remember the hooves and lobster.... unclean), Deuteronomy 14:3. And again we come to idols and idolatrous practices, see Deuteronomy 29:17; Hosea 9:10; Jeremiah 4:1; 13:27; 16:18; Ezekiel 11:18-21; 20:7,8. And then there is the sacrifice or eating of tainted or spoiled meat. Leviticus 7:18; 19:7; Ezekiel 4:14; Isaiah 65:4.
Now then Daniel 9:27, He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing (of the temple) he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. In 167 B.C. a Greek ruler by the name of Antiochus Epiphanies set up an altar to Zeus over the altar of burnt offerings in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. He also sacrificed a pig on the altar in the Temple in Jerusalem. This event is known as the abomination of desolation.
Now do you see the difference. I know, it is a lot to take in, but I am sure if you look up the references you will understand much better the difference.
Ablution, in which you refer is an obligation for all, not just the Priest, in your case, or Rabbi. There a three kinds of Ablution, recognized in Biblical and rabbinical law: (1) Washing of the hands, (2) washing of the hands and feet, and (3) immersion of the whole body in water. Washing one's hands is required before and during the preparation of food, after using the restroom, changing a child.... Washing the hands and feet, is required when one is performing religious duties. And a full immersion of the bible:
Full immerision is performed in a natural fountain, stream or a mikweh.
No leper or unclean person of the seed of Aaron could eat of holy flesh until he had washed his whole body in water (Lev. xxii. 4-6).
When a leper was healed of his leprosy, he shaved off his hair, offered up the prescribed sacrifices, washed his clothing, bathed his person in water, and became clean (Lev. xiv. 8, 9).
Any person who came into contact with the body of, or with articles of furniture used by, a person having an unclean issue, or with any article used by him, was obliged to wash both his body and his garments, and was unclean for a whole day (Lev. xv. 5-10).
A sufferer from an unclean issue to be clean required immersion of the whole person (Lev. xv. 16, 18).
Whoever touched a woman who is in Menstruation, or any article used by her, required immersion of the whole person (Lev. xv. 19-27).
A native Israelite or a proselyte eating unclean flesh of a beast which had died of itself, or had been torn, became thereby unclean for a day, and was obliged to wash his whole body (Lev. xvii. 15).
The priest who tended the red heifer, itself intended as a rite of purification, became unclean for a day and was obliged to wash his whole body (Num. xix. 7, 8).
Whoever came into contact with a corpse or a grave was unclean for seven days. On the third and seventh days he was sprinkled with water in which ashes from the burnt carcass of the red heifer had been dissolved. On the seventh day he washed his whole body and his garments in water and became clean (Num. xix. 19).
Among the ceremonies at the installation of priests was the washing of the whole body (Ex. xxix. 4, xl. 12).
The Levites were purified by having water of the sin-offering sprinkled upon them (Num. viii. 15).
The only priestly function still observed among Jews as a part of the public worship is the blessing of the people. On festivals and holy days, the descendants of Aaron pronounce upon the congregation the threefold benediction (Num. vi. 24-26). On this occasion the Levites pour out the water for the priests at the washing of hands, which takes place previous to the benediction, and for which a sitcher and basin, both usually of silver, are used.
Now an abomination, that is very different. No amount of washing will make it better. The only way to get out of this ..... complete repentance and you can not keep committing the thing that causes G*d disgust or hatred. In other words, if you do it then repent and never do it again.... Among the objects described in the Old Testament as "abominations" in this sense are heathen gods, such as Ashtoreth (Astarte), Chemosh, Milcom, the "abominations" of the Zidonians (Phoenicians), Moabites, and Ammonites, respectively (2 Kings 23:13), and everything connected with the worship of such gods.
Everything akin to magic or divination is likewise an abomination to G*d; as are sexual transgressions (Deuteronomy 22:5; 23:18; 24:4), especially incest and other unnatural offenses:
"For all these abominations have the men of the land done, that were before you" (Leviticus 18:27; compare Ezekiel 8:15). It is to be noted, however, that the word takes on in the later usage a higher ethical and spiritual meaning: as where "divers measures, a great and a small," are forbidden (Deuteronomy 25:14-16); and in Proverbs where "lying lips" (Proverbs 12:22), "the proud in heart" (Proverbs 16:5), "the way of the wicked" (Proverbs 15:9), "evil devices" (Proverbs 15:26), and "he that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the righteous" (Proverbs 17:15), are said to be an abomination in G*d's sight. At last prophet and sage are found to unite in declaring that any sacrifice, however free from physical blemish, if offered without purity of motive, is an abomination: `Bring no more an oblation of falsehood--an incense of abomination it is to me' (Isaiah 1:13; compare Jeremiah 7:10). "The sacrifice of the wicked" and the prayer of him "that turneth away his ear from hearing the law," are equally an abomination (see Proverbs 15:8; 21:27; 28:9).
And there are more:
Somewhat further down on the list of abominations is the act of eating an unclean animal (remember the hooves and lobster.... unclean), Deuteronomy 14:3. And again we come to idols and idolatrous practices, see Deuteronomy 29:17; Hosea 9:10; Jeremiah 4:1; 13:27; 16:18; Ezekiel 11:18-21; 20:7,8. And then there is the sacrifice or eating of tainted or spoiled meat. Leviticus 7:18; 19:7; Ezekiel 4:14; Isaiah 65:4.
Now then Daniel 9:27, He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing (of the temple) he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. In 167 B.C. a Greek ruler by the name of Antiochus Epiphanies set up an altar to Zeus over the altar of burnt offerings in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. He also sacrificed a pig on the altar in the Temple in Jerusalem. This event is known as the abomination of desolation.
Now do you see the difference. I know, it is a lot to take in, but I am sure if you look up the references you will understand much better the difference.
fiatlux wrote:
Am I wrong, if you know so much about it?
Dec 15, 2015 03:22:04 #
Pennylynn wrote:
Yes, you do.Yes, Rumitoid you are wrong and yes I do know more about it than you.
Thought I'd throw in a sort of index. Let rummy look it up. Always get more out of something when you have to work for it.
The following is a list of things the Bible considers an abomination:
Unclean things (Lev. 7:21)
Customs of pagans (Lev. 18:30)
Idols (2 Chr. 15:8; 1 Pet. 4:3)
Sins of men (Ps. 14:1; 53:1)
Cheating (Mic. 6:10)
Lost souls (Rev. 21:8)
A froward man (perverse; one who turns aside (Pro. 3:32; 11:20)
A proud look (Pro. 6:16-17)
A lying tongue (Pro. 6:17; 12:22)
Hands that shed innocent blood ((Pro. 6:17)
A wicked scheming heart (Pro. 6:18)
Feet that are quick to sin (Pro. 6:18)
A false witness that speaks lies (Pro. 6:19)
A sower of discord (Pro. 6:19)
Wickedness (Pro. 8:7)
A false balance or scale (Pro. 11:1)
Sacrifices of the wicked (Pro. 15:8; 21:27)
The way of the wicked (Pro. 15:9)
The thoughts of the wicked (Pro. 15:26)
The proud of heart (Pro. 16:5)
Justifying the wicked (Pro. 17:15)
Condemning the just (Pro. 17:15)
Divers, dishonest weights (Pro. 20:10, 23)
Divers, dishonest measures (Pro. 20:10)
Refusing to hear the law (Pro. 28:9)
Prayers of the rebel (Pro. 28:9)
Eating flesh of peace offerings on the 3rd day (Lev. 7:18)
Same sex acts (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; Dt. 23:18)
Taking ornaments from idols when being destroyed (Dt. 7:25-26)
Any Idolatrous practices (Dt. 12:31; 13:14; 17:4; 18:9; 20:18; 29:17)
Offering an imperfect animal to God as a sacrifice (Dt. 17:1)
Any traffic with demons (Dt. 18:7-12)
Wearing clothes of the opposite sex (Dt. 22:5)
Bringing the hire of a harlot or sodomite into God's house (Dt. 23:18)
Re-marriage of former companions (Dt. 24:1-4)
Cheating others (Dt. 25:13-16)
Making images/idols (Dt. 27:15)
Idols of Ammon (1 Ki. 11:5)
Idols of Moab (1 Ki. 11:7; 2 Ki. 11:13)
Idols of Zidon (2 Ki. 23:13)
Incense offered by hypocrites (Isa. 1:13)
Eating unclean things (Isa. 66:17)
Offering human sacrifices (Jer. 32:35)
Robbery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Murder (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Adultery (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Oppression of others, particularly the poor or vulnerable (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Violence (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Breaking vows (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lending with interest to a brother (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Lying with a menstruous woman (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Hardness of heart (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Injustice (Ezek. 18: 6-13)
Worship of anti-Christ (Dan. 11:31; 12:11; Mt. 24:15; 2 Th. 2:4; Rev. 13)
Incest (Lev. 19: 6-30)
Things highly esteemed by man (Lk. 16:15)
Many other sins of the nations (Lev. 18: 26-29; Dt. 18: 9-12; 20:18; 29:17; 1 Ki. 14:24; 21:2, 11; 23:24; 2 Chr. 28:3; 33:2; 34:33; 36:14; Ezek. 7: 3-20; 8: 6-17; 16: 2-58; 20: 4-30; Rev. 17: 4-5)
It is abundantly clear from scripture that ALL SIN is considered an abomination by God. While one can debate degrees of seriousness and punishment for sin, it is clear that, according to the Bible, ALL sin is an abomination!
Dec 15, 2015 04:22:24 #
Boo_Boo
Loc: Jellystone
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yes, you do.
Thought I'd throw in a sort of index. Let rummy look it up. Always get more out of something when you have to work for it.
! [/b]
Thought I'd throw in a sort of index. Let rummy look it up. Always get more out of something when you have to work for it.
! [/b]
Blade,
This is an impressive!! Thank you so much. I knew my list looked pretty anemic... :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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