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Sep 26, 2013 20:55:23   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
If the TP can’t stop obamacare even with a government shutdown, how will TP leaders react? When obamacare starts Jan 1st, will TP leaders give up? Will they recommend that members go without health insurance or will they allow members to buy health insurance because at that point they will all be written by obamacare?

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Sep 26, 2013 22:12:36   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
UncleJesse wrote:
If the TP can’t stop obamacare even with a government shutdown, how will TP leaders react? When obamacare starts Jan 1st, will TP leaders give up? Will they recommend that members go without health insurance or will they allow members to buy health insurance because at that point they will all be written by obamacare?


Gallup Poll: The Tea Party nears record low in popularity. http://www.gallup.com/poll/164648/tea-party-support-dwindles-near-record-low.aspx

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Sep 26, 2013 22:40:39   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Gallup Poll: The Tea Party nears record low in popularity. http://www.gallup.com/poll/164648/tea-party-support-dwindles-near-record-low.aspx


Who cares about the Gallup Poll? Means nothing at all. Most Americans H**E Obastard, but he still got re-installed as the illegal Imposter in the WH. And half people agree with what the Tea Party stands for (the NON t*****rs to this country). So, maybe you can be a "poll watcher" if you want. I will just go by what the people actually DO.

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Sep 26, 2013 23:02:50   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Nuclearian wrote:
Who cares about the Gallup Poll? Means nothing at all. Most Americans H**E Obastard, but he still got re-installed as the illegal Imposter in the WH. And half people agree with what the Tea Party stands for (the NON t*****rs to this country). So, maybe you can be a "poll watcher" if you want. I will just go by what the people actually DO.

From which poll did you decide that the majority of Americans dislike Obama, let me guess you are an avid Fox News viewer. Well you are wrong, by a slim margin, the majority of people like Obama. Just like in the last P**********l e******n, so that would mean you are part of the minority. The ACA is here to stay.

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Sep 26, 2013 23:56:17   #
bones
 
Where are they getting these polls from. While the rest of us are waiting for help and they didn't ask us anything. They only ask the ones with deep pockets!!! I don't see congress giving up some of their healthcare to help or give up some fat payday wouldn't that be something. :!: :thumbup:

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Sep 27, 2013 04:30:58   #
Miss Brandi
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
From which poll did you decide that the majority of Americans dislike Obama, let me guess you are an avid Fox News viewer. Well you are wrong, by a slim margin, the majority of people like Obama. Just like in the last P**********l e******n, so that would mean you are part of the minority. The ACA is here to stay.


Guess again, Bevis...I rarely watch the i***t box (there is a reason for it being nicknamed that...hint...hint) I don't care what Fox or ANYONE says, the only thing I have to guide me is my own intelligence (don't go there, R*****d) and my heart. I have been a minority in one way or shape all my life, so, being there against Obama is fine with me. I think we need to burn D.C. to the ground and start over and if that makes me a rightwing extremist...so be it. But, I do not like you or what you stand for...have you ever served in the military? Have you ever been subjected to being a minority? Have you ever had to swallow the abuses of the 'Majority'? Come on...gloves off...where is this liberal bulls**t coming from?!? Do you REALLY think you will be better off with Obamacare? Do you REALLY think you are better off since that 'puppet' took office? Or are you African American and bitter at everyone with skin lighter than yours? I am Cherokee/Creek Indian, Scott/Irish, Scandinavian. I bring new meaning to the term 'mutt'. And I am a female to boot. But you know what? All of that means nothing......NOBODY owes me anything. And I don't owe this poor excuse of a president anything, not even respect...the Kenyan bastard hasn't EARNED my respect. I v**ed against him both times and thought that the rest of the legal v**ers were stoned that day...................................

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Sep 27, 2013 09:20:12   #
Don Overton Loc: Southwest USA
 
The ea party is on deaths door.

UncleJesse wrote:
If the TP can’t stop obamacare even with a government shutdown, how will TP leaders react? When obamacare starts Jan 1st, will TP leaders give up? Will they recommend that members go without health insurance or will they allow members to buy health insurance because at that point they will all be written by obamacare?

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Sep 27, 2013 11:23:19   #
dkylady11
 
Miss Brandi wrote:
Guess again, Bevis...I rarely watch the i***t box (there is a reason for it being nicknamed that...hint...hint) I don't care what Fox or ANYONE says, the only thing I have to guide me is my own intelligence (don't go there, R*****d) and my heart. I have been a minority in one way or shape all my life, so, being there against Obama is fine with me. I think we need to burn D.C. to the ground and start over and if that makes me a rightwing extremist...so be it. But, I do not like you or what you stand for...have you ever served in the military? Have you ever been subjected to being a minority? Have you ever had to swallow the abuses of the 'Majority'? Come on...gloves off...where is this liberal bulls**t coming from?!? Do you REALLY think you will be better off with Obamacare? Do you REALLY think you are better off since that 'puppet' took office? Or are you African American and bitter at everyone with skin lighter than yours? I am Cherokee/Creek Indian, Scott/Irish, Scandinavian. I bring new meaning to the term 'mutt'. And I am a female to boot. But you know what? All of that means nothing......NOBODY owes me anything. And I don't owe this poor excuse of a president anything, not even respect...the Kenyan bastard hasn't EARNED my respect. I v**ed against him both times and thought that the rest of the legal v**ers were stoned that day...................................
Guess again, Bevis...I rarely watch the i***t box ... (show quote)

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Sep 27, 2013 11:25:24   #
dkylady11
 
oooooorah Brandi I'm in wth yoy ... you go girl

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Sep 27, 2013 11:37:27   #
jasfourth401
 
UncleJesse wrote:
If the TP can’t stop obamacare even with a government shutdown, how will TP leaders react? When obamacare starts Jan 1st, will TP leaders give up? Will they recommend that members go without health insurance or will they allow members to buy health insurance because at that point they will all be written by obamacare?


Actually you just saw it. It was one of the biggest missed opportunities ever handed to a tea party spokesperson. It was Ted Cruz and his 21 hour filibuster. He had the attention of everyone. He had the stage. He could have railed against the ACA and demanded we fix it by making concrete proposals. Instead we were treated to a reading of Green Eggs & Ham, references to a Twitter speech by Ashton Kutcher and his signature ploy of comparing current logic and people to N**is. His comment regarding "pre-existing conditions" said it all. He punted. He said it needed to be studied. An extraordinary cop out. Mr. Cruz had the chance to really effect change. But instead all we got were platitudes. And those platitudes seem to be the only position of the tea party spokespeople today. If the tea party wants to be thought of as a viable force, it needs specific and actionable programs. Show me tea party. The days of whining are over. And until they do, they will be emperors without clothes.

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Sep 27, 2013 21:00:31   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
From which poll did you decide that the majority of Americans dislike Obama, let me guess you are an avid Fox News viewer. Well you are wrong, by a slim margin, the majority of people like Obama. Just like in the last P**********l e******n, so that would mean you are part of the minority. The ACA is here to stay.


The c****e media said most Americans dont want it either. And the same media actually "goofed" and said his popularity has gone down. Hell, he is now less liked than Jimmy Carter was in his worse days.
And he didnt win the last e******n. I******s won it for him by v****g. NBPP won it for him by v**er intimidation. Double v**ers won it for him by v****g twice.
Now you can keep your head in the sand and try to ignore things while your f*****t "Lord and Savior" Obastard destroys this country, but that will either expose you as a naive sheeple, or worse, a TREASONOUS person, just like Obastard.

And I hope ACA stays for people like you. You wont get good medical care, and you will be prioritized for medical treatment. Means you may not get medical care in time to prevent your "ailment" from getting much worse. Poetic justice for you Obastard i***ts.

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Sep 27, 2013 21:04:20   #
Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State
 
Don Overton wrote:
The ea party is on deaths door.


If the Tea Party dies, this country is dead. The ONLY group of people that actually believe in the law of the land, The Constitution. All opponents to the Constitution are t*****rs and should be arrested. And remember the Oath is to PROTECT AND DEFEND the Constitution of the US. Obastard is in violation, and is guilty of treason. Along with most of the NON tea party members of Congress.

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Sep 27, 2013 21:46:04   #
Peggy Kirk
 
Good question. What are the TPs answers to all this. What were they doing about Bush's wars, Guantanimo, the real estate crisis, etc.? I have seen a lot of wrong moves in the Obama administration, but I have seen very little help for him. Currently his staff is cut,,, budget? His help is likely whomever he can muster and the Republicans and TP haven't come up with a better health care solution. Where is it?

It is easy enough to criticize this Black President, lets hope this never happens again, and lets be sure of it, but where are the answers? The solutions? I think, even at his worst he has been courageously holding his own, pretty much alone. So, who is the t*****r? Is it the Speaker who is going to "take back his country", and stands in Obama's way over everything? No, I'm white and I am disappointed with the country right now. I see nothing from TP now or ever. Obama never had a chance.

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Sep 27, 2013 21:55:29   #
Peggy Kirk
 
Good question. What are the TPs answers to all this. What were they doing about Bush's wars, Guantanimo, the real estate crisis, etc.? I have seen a lot of wrong moves in the Obama administration, but I have seen very little help for him. Currently his staff is cut,,, budget? His help is likely whomever he can muster and the Republicans and TP haven't come up with a better health care solution. Where is it?

It is easy enough to criticize this Black President, lets hope this never happens again, and lets be sure of it, but where are the answers? The solutions? I think, even at his worst he has been courageously holding his own, pretty much alone. So, who is the t*****r? Is it the Speaker who is going to "take back his country", and stands in Obama's way over everything? No, I'm white and I am disappointed with the country right now. I see nothing from TP now or ever. Obama never had a chance.

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Sep 27, 2013 22:18:37   #
bones
 
[quote=Peggy Kirk]Good question. What are the TPs answers to all this. What were they doing about Bush's wars, Guantanimo, the real estate crisis, etc.? I have seen a lot of wrong moves in the Obama administration, but I have seen very little help for him. Currently his staff is cut,,, budget? His help is likely whomever he can muster and the Republicans and TP haven't come up with a better health care solution. Where is it?

It is easy enough to criticize this Black President, lets hope this never happens again, and lets be sure of it, but where are the answers? The solutions? I think, even at his worst he has been courageously holding his own, pretty much alone. So, who is the t*****r? Is it the Speaker who is going to "take back his country", and stands in Obama's way over everything? No, I'm white and I am disappointed with the country right now. I see nothing from TP now or ever. Obama never had a chance.[ :thumbup:

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