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The fourfold witness

The scriptures are found in John 5:31 - 46. Jesus is the son of God. He gave four witnesses to that fact. The first one is John the Baptist. Although He does not take validation from man, everything John said about Jesus is true. Six months before Jesus went public, John told everyone He was coming and to get ready. (An aside note, all of this praise and worship, without reading the bible and learning of God’s desire for us, His predictions, and how He interacts with people will accomplish nothing. We allow the supreme court to pass ungodly laws like abortion and same sex marriage, meanwhile the church makes you feel God will prosper you if you pay tithes. What is your tithe if you don’t have a job?.) The second witness involves your own conscience. Jesus did things that no other man could do or has done since. You need eyes that see and ears that see to know that Jesus is real, even though our understanding of time is based on His life. The third witness is God Himself. He calls Jesus His son six times in the New Testament in Matthew 4:17 and 17:5, Mark 1:11 and 9:7, and Luke 3:22 and 9:35. He gave details of Jesus birth, life, death, and resurrection thousands of years before He was born, from Psalms to the Prophets. Finally we have Moses. Moses wrote of Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:15, 18 & 19.

Theo Loc: Within 1000 miles of Tampa, Florida

True! All TRUE! I would request clarification on your remark however, the part that says "All this Praise and Worship..."

Jesus Himself directed his disciples thusly -

JESUS DENIES HE IS GOD

John 4:24 God is a Spirit:

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit [ουκ εχει] hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

[ουκ = is a negative particle simply meaning "Not."]
[εχει = is a present active verb which means While Jesus was in flesh GOD WAS NOT. Jesus is not God and God did not and will not become flesh, and scripture never says otherwise.

In Luke 24:39-40 Jesus explained in plain language and with grammatic principle - that He is flesh and bones -
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet."

And in John 4:23-24 Jesus explained in plain language and following grammatic principle, that the one identified previously as His God and Father, is Spirit -
"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."

Jesus references "GOD" with the pronoun "HIM," which should serve to demonstrate Jesus recognized God was other than Himself.

Your own reference to Moses, who is the Second witness, not the fourth, tells us about the first witness, which is God who puts into the mouth of His prophet Messiah, "all things that He is to say."

Jesus testifies to the truth of that prophecy, as also does Luke in his testimony in Acts when he references the same conversation as that in Deuteronomy. And John testifies to Jesus' assertion that "My words are not my own, but His that sent me." So you have the same four witnesses asserting that God is spirit, Jesus is flesh and bone which God is NOT, therefore Jesus is not God.