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Nov 17, 2015 21:54:38   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Tuesday the 17th of November 2015, by Alice Greene


Will the leading Democratic candidate end up in jail before e******ns?
Hillary can run, but she can’t hide. As the Democratic frontrunner tries to put the now-infamous email scandal behind her, the FBI has ramped up its investigation, looking into the Espionage Act as well as US Code 18, Section 1001 to find out if Clinton has indeed risked classified information.


“Former FBI and Justice officials familiar with the investigative procedures on such matters said the agency must determine two main things: whether the use of an outside email system posed any risks to national security secrets and if so if anyone was responsible for exposing classified information,” reports Politico.


According to Fox News, FBI “agents are looking at US Code 18, Section 1001, which pertains to ‘materially false’ statements given [by government employees] either in writing, orally, or through a third party. Violations also include pressuring a third party to conspire in a cover-up. Each felony violation is subject to five years in prison.”


Speaking of cover-ups, Fox News reports: "At least four classified Clinton emails had their markings changed to a category that shields the content from Congress and the public, in what State Department whistleblowers believed to be an effort to hide the true extent of classified information on the former secretary of state’s server."


Section 1001 is used when individuals make false or misleading statements that later cause government agents to spend extra time and resources. The statute applies to any statement, not only those made under oath.


Timothy Gill, a former FBI agent, says that Section 1001 “punishes individuals who are not direct and fulsome in their answers. The problem for a defendant is when their statements cause the bureau to expend more time, energy, resources to de-conflict their statements with the evidence.” You can say that again. The State Department has spent countless hours, days, and months examining the emails Clinton was forced to turn over.


As to false statements, Clinton originally said: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” She later amended her statement, explaining that all material sent and/or received as not “marked classified at the time.”


The FBI is also looking into the Espionage Act in relation to “gross negligence” in the way Hillary handled information pertaining to national defense. The former Secretary of State was well-aware of her duty to protect this type of information – and in fact was made to sign two or more non-disclosure agreements when she took office in 2009.


Nonetheless, she decided to send classified information using a secret server – a server that could easily be hacked. She later surrendered the server to her attorney, who did not have clearance to view the information, and to an IT firm in Denver, whose employees also lacked clearance.


Section 1001 was used to bust Martha Stewart as well as CIA director Gen. David Petraeus, who was indicted and convicted earlier this year for a far smaller breach of security than what Hillary has done. So far, the FBI has found over 600 emails containing classified information.


Not everyone is cooperating with the feds in this top-secret investigation. The Justice Department remains unsure of how to deal with Bryan Pagliano, the IT expert who oversaw the homebrew server. When subpoenaed by Congress a few months ago, Pagliano took the Fifth and refused to answer any questions.

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Nov 18, 2015 06:58:28   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Tuesday the 17th of November 2015, by Alice Greene


Will the leading Democratic candidate end up in jail before e******ns?
Hillary can run, but she can’t hide. As the Democratic frontrunner tries to put the now-infamous email scandal behind her, the FBI has ramped up its investigation, looking into the Espionage Act as well as US Code 18, Section 1001 to find out if Clinton has indeed risked classified information.


“Former FBI and Justice officials familiar with the investigative procedures on such matters said the agency must determine two main things: whether the use of an outside email system posed any risks to national security secrets and if so if anyone was responsible for exposing classified information,” reports Politico.


According to Fox News, FBI “agents are looking at US Code 18, Section 1001, which pertains to ‘materially false’ statements given [by government employees] either in writing, orally, or through a third party. Violations also include pressuring a third party to conspire in a cover-up. Each felony violation is subject to five years in prison.”


Speaking of cover-ups, Fox News reports: "At least four classified Clinton emails had their markings changed to a category that shields the content from Congress and the public, in what State Department whistleblowers believed to be an effort to hide the true extent of classified information on the former secretary of state’s server."


Section 1001 is used when individuals make false or misleading statements that later cause government agents to spend extra time and resources. The statute applies to any statement, not only those made under oath.


Timothy Gill, a former FBI agent, says that Section 1001 “punishes individuals who are not direct and fulsome in their answers. The problem for a defendant is when their statements cause the bureau to expend more time, energy, resources to de-conflict their statements with the evidence.” You can say that again. The State Department has spent countless hours, days, and months examining the emails Clinton was forced to turn over.


As to false statements, Clinton originally said: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” She later amended her statement, explaining that all material sent and/or received as not “marked classified at the time.”


The FBI is also looking into the Espionage Act in relation to “gross negligence” in the way Hillary handled information pertaining to national defense. The former Secretary of State was well-aware of her duty to protect this type of information – and in fact was made to sign two or more non-disclosure agreements when she took office in 2009.


Nonetheless, she decided to send classified information using a secret server – a server that could easily be hacked. She later surrendered the server to her attorney, who did not have clearance to view the information, and to an IT firm in Denver, whose employees also lacked clearance.


Section 1001 was used to bust Martha Stewart as well as CIA director Gen. David Petraeus, who was indicted and convicted earlier this year for a far smaller breach of security than what Hillary has done. So far, the FBI has found over 600 emails containing classified information.


Not everyone is cooperating with the feds in this top-secret investigation. The Justice Department remains unsure of how to deal with Bryan Pagliano, the IT expert who oversaw the homebrew server. When subpoenaed by Congress a few months ago, Pagliano took the Fifth and refused to answer any questions.
Tuesday the 17th of November 2015, by Alice Greene... (show quote)




It would be a miracle, or a judicial mistake in the right direction, for even one high ranking ( or former ) Gov. member to be held to account for actions while in office. I'm not holding my breath, mind you, but it would tickle me no end to see Hillary set a precedent. She could really make history that way and that might even satisfy HER hunger for fame and even more fortune.

If only one person could set that precedent and get the ball rolling, we might fill up all those empty prison beds Obama evacuated recently - with current and former Gov. officials, who have yet to be charged, but need to be. We wouldn't have to wait for an e******n to clear out the Congress, as a felony conviction would force even that good 'ol boys club to clean house ( and Senate ). There would be a new incumbency, with hundreds of prisoners denied parole, allowing them to keep their cells without having to campaign at all.

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Nov 18, 2015 07:24:30   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It would be a miracle, or a judicial mistake in the right direction, for even one high ranking ( or former ) Gov. member to be held to account for actions while in office. I'm not holding my breath, mind you, but it would tickle me no end to see Hillary set a precedent. She could really make history that way and that might even satisfy HER hunger for fame and even more fortune.

If only one person could set that precedent and get the ball rolling, we might fill up all those empty prison beds Obama evacuated recently - with current and former Gov. officials, who have yet to be charged, but need to be. We wouldn't have to wait for an e******n to clear out the Congress, as a felony conviction would force even that good 'ol boys club to clean house ( and Senate ). There would be a new incumbency, with hundreds of prisoners denied parole, allowing them to keep their cells without having to campaign at all.
It would be a miracle, or a judicial mistake in th... (show quote)


That is a wonderful thought. To bad our government is to corrupt to allow the real felons to be tried. More than half of Congress would be in jail.

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Nov 18, 2015 14:35:59   #
3jack
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Tuesday the 17th of November 2015, by Alice Greene


Will the leading Democratic candidate end up in jail before e******ns?
Hillary can run, but she can’t hide. As the Democratic frontrunner tries to put the now-infamous email scandal behind her, the FBI has ramped up its investigation, looking into the Espionage Act as well as US Code 18, Section 1001 to find out if Clinton has indeed risked classified information.


“Former FBI and Justice officials familiar with the investigative procedures on such matters said the agency must determine two main things: whether the use of an outside email system posed any risks to national security secrets and if so if anyone was responsible for exposing classified information,” reports Politico.


According to Fox News, FBI “agents are looking at US Code 18, Section 1001, which pertains to ‘materially false’ statements given [by government employees] either in writing, orally, or through a third party. Violations also include pressuring a third party to conspire in a cover-up. Each felony violation is subject to five years in prison.”


Speaking of cover-ups, Fox News reports: "At least four classified Clinton emails had their markings changed to a category that shields the content from Congress and the public, in what State Department whistleblowers believed to be an effort to hide the true extent of classified information on the former secretary of state’s server."


Section 1001 is used when individuals make false or misleading statements that later cause government agents to spend extra time and resources. The statute applies to any statement, not only those made under oath.


Timothy Gill, a former FBI agent, says that Section 1001 “punishes individuals who are not direct and fulsome in their answers. The problem for a defendant is when their statements cause the bureau to expend more time, energy, resources to de-conflict their statements with the evidence.” You can say that again. The State Department has spent countless hours, days, and months examining the emails Clinton was forced to turn over.


As to false statements, Clinton originally said: “I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material.” She later amended her statement, explaining that all material sent and/or received as not “marked classified at the time.”


The FBI is also looking into the Espionage Act in relation to “gross negligence” in the way Hillary handled information pertaining to national defense. The former Secretary of State was well-aware of her duty to protect this type of information – and in fact was made to sign two or more non-disclosure agreements when she took office in 2009.


Nonetheless, she decided to send classified information using a secret server – a server that could easily be hacked. She later surrendered the server to her attorney, who did not have clearance to view the information, and to an IT firm in Denver, whose employees also lacked clearance.


Section 1001 was used to bust Martha Stewart as well as CIA director Gen. David Petraeus, who was indicted and convicted earlier this year for a far smaller breach of security than what Hillary has done. So far, the FBI has found over 600 emails containing classified information.


Not everyone is cooperating with the feds in this top-secret investigation. The Justice Department remains unsure of how to deal with Bryan Pagliano, the IT expert who oversaw the homebrew server. When subpoenaed by Congress a few months ago, Pagliano took the Fifth and refused to answer any questions.
Tuesday the 17th of November 2015, by Alice Greene... (show quote)



And Hillary said...........

It gratifying to know that my alleged actions can keep one right wing moron occupied for such a long time
It gratifying to know that my alleged actions can ...

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Nov 18, 2015 14:42:09   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I know you have a hard time with the t***h about the Clinton's and even the zebra...

They are contemptuous and corrupted crooks...

If you support them and you call yourself a Democrat imagine what JFK would say about them & you and his little brother???

So sorry for you... Don D.

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3jack wrote:
And Hillary said...........

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Nov 18, 2015 14:52:16   #
3jack
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
I know you have a hard time with the t***h about the Clinton's and even the zebra...

They are contemptuous and corrupted crooks...

If you support them and you call yourself a Democrat imagine what JFK would say about them & you and his little brother???

So sorry for you... Don D.

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I accept the t***h when I see or hear it, but, as far as the Clinton's is concerned, all I see or hear from you i***ts are your opinions....opinions don't equate to t***hs.

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Nov 18, 2015 15:17:35   #
GrampaG
 
3jack wrote:
I accept the t***h when I see or hear it, but, as far as the Clinton's is concerned, all I see or hear from you i***ts are your opinions....opinions don't equate to t***hs.


You're some special kind'a stupid, aren't you?

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Nov 18, 2015 15:46:00   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Google or any other engine you like and ask the question(s) about them, you will be blow away...

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3jack wrote:
I accept the t***h when I see or hear it, but, as far as the Clinton's is concerned, all I see or hear from you i***ts are your opinions....opinions don't equate to t***hs.

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Nov 18, 2015 18:58:12   #
3jack
 
GrampaG wrote:
You're some special kind'a stupid, aren't you?


Eff yourself.

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Nov 18, 2015 19:55:26   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
I CAN'T HELP BUT NOTICE YOU'VE MADE NO REPLY ABOUT THE INFORMATION YOU FOUND OUT ABOUT THE CLINTON'S WITH YOUR NEW SEARCH...

Google or any other engine you like and ask the question(s) about them, you will be blow away...



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3jack wrote:
Eff yourself.

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Nov 18, 2015 21:08:52   #
3jack
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Google or any other engine you like and ask the question(s) about them, you will be blow away...

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I googled indictments, trials, and convictions of the Clintons and found nothing.

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Nov 18, 2015 21:25:50   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Correct, they got away with murder (42 times) and swindles and insider trading, and illicit donations to their crooked foundation... Look, your a liberal and I get it, I was a Democrat while JFK was in office, so I Understand, and I had a hard time get my head around Nixon being Nixon, but there comes a point where one must grow up and smell the roses not the fertilizer... I truly do feel for you, Sanders or Hitlary, s**t!!!

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3jack wrote:
I googled indictments, trials, and convictions of the Clintons and found nothing.

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