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Limbaugh: Obama not interested in winning against ISIS

'They're asking us to not believe exactly what we see'

In the wake of the Paris terror attacks last week, radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh says President Obama has no interest in winning against the Islamic terror group ISIS.

At a news conference Monday, Obama was asked if his “reluctance to enter another Middle East war and [his] preference of diplomacy over using the military makes the U.S. weaker and emboldens our enemies.”

Obama responded: “Some of [my critics] seem to think that if I were just more bellicose in expressing what we’re doing, that that would make a difference, because that seems to be the only thing that they’re doing is talking as if they’re tough. Folks want to pop off and have opinions about what they think they would do, present a specific plan. What I’m not interested in doing is posing or pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning or wh**ever other slogans they come up with that has no relationship to what is actually gonna work to protect the American people and to protect people in the region.”

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That comment set Limbaugh off, who asked, “Did I just hear what I just heard?”

“If America winning doesn’t have any relationship to what’s gonna work, then what the hell are we working on? What’s the point?”

“He really makes the case here,” Limbaugh continued, “that this is bitter clinger rabble-rousing. It’s just insignificant. This idea of America winning, it’s so backwards. We intellectuals are so far beyond the concept of America winning. That’s not what this is about. We’re not in this to win. That’s not why we’re doing what we’re doing. That’s his point of view here. American leadership, America winning, other slogans we can come up with. I’m not interested in that. That has no relationship to what’s actually gonna work to protect the American people. America winning has no relationship to protecting the American people?

“This is arrogant condescension and the whole idea here about winning and victory, intellectuals, in their world, that is blue-collar stuff, that’s hayseed, hick stuff, talking about winning and this and that. The intellectuals know there is no winning. There’s just containment. There’s appeasement, there’s cooperation, coalition. Winning? Come on, don’t waste my time. We’re so beyond winning. In his vaunted world of superior intelligence and being, winning is such a passe thing. Leadership, it’s so irrelevant to the real world today. But he wasn’t finished. He then lectured everybody on how we have to accept Muslims as well as Christians or we’re all just a bunch of bigots.”

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Limbaugh said Americans citizens are truly concerned about attacks within our borders now, especially in the wake of what happened in Paris as well as the ongoing influx of Muslim “refugees” from Syria into the United States. He says government officials, including the president, want Americans to deny reality.

“They’re asking us to not believe exactly what we see,” he explained. “They’re asking us to deny common sense. They’re asking us to deny what’s rational. They want us to believe them. ‘Ah, it’s workplace violence.’ Really? Allahu Akbar. It happens every day.”

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Limbaugh also claimed there was only one time the president seemed lively during the news conference.

“The only time he came alive, the only time Obama got passionate was when what? When he started talking about the migrants. When he started talking about the migrants and how we must keep our doors open. He started condemning people who think we need to keep Syrian refugees out of here, we need to keep Muslim refugees out of here, we only should let in Christians, he blew up.”

Obama explained: “As we accept more refugees, including Syrians, we do so only after subjecting them to rigorous screening and security checks. We also have to remember that many of these refugees are the victims of terrorism themselves. That’s what they’re fleeing. Slamming the door in their faces would be a betrayal of our values.”

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RWNJ

And yet he denies entrance to Christians fleeing from the same countries. It is clear what his priorities are. Obama is a disgrace, and an affront, to everything that is civilized.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

How long ago was it that Rush admitted that he had a drug problem, and sought help for it?
Funny how things are held against some people isn't it?
It is also funny how some people wouldn't have any standards if it weren't for double standards.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Why? He was an icon of the democrat party?

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Ohhhhhh, damn the facts...always come back and take a hunk from that hind quarter.
They have selective memories Archie, especially when it does not siut the agenda of lies and misinformation the left prefers.

Good evening to ya buddy.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Ku Klux Klan members in United States politics
This article discusses notable figures in U.S. national politics who were alleged to have been members of the Ku Klux Klan prior to their public careers.

Known members Edit

Harry Truman Edit

Harry S. Truman
Harry S. Truman, the Democratic politician who became president in 1945, dabbled with the Klan briefly. In 1924, he was a judge in Jackson County, Missouri. Truman was up for ree******n, and his friends Edgar Hinde and Spencer Salisbury advised him to join the Klan. The Klan was politically powerful in Jackson County, and two of Truman's opponents in the Democratic primary had Klan support. Truman refused at first, but paid the Klan's $10 membership fee, and a meeting with a Klan officer was arranged.[1]

According to Salisbury's version of the story, Truman was inducted, but afterward “was never active; he was just a member who wouldn't do anything”. Salisbury, however, told the story after he became Truman's bitter enemy, so historians are reluctant to believe his claims.[2]

According to Hinde and Truman's accounts, the Klan officer demanded that Truman pledge not to hire any Catholics or Jews if he was reelected. Truman refused, and demanded the return of his $10 membership fee; most of the men he had commanded in World War I had been local Irish Catholics.[3]

Truman had at least one other strong reason to object to the anti-Catholic requirement, which was that the Catholic Pendergast family, which operated a political machine in Jackson County, were his patrons; Pendergast family lore has it that Truman was originally accepted for patronage without even meeting him, on the basis of his family background plus the requirement that he was not a member of any anti-Catholic organization such as the Klan.[4] The Pendergast faction of the Democratic Party was known as the “Goats”, as opposed to the rival Shannon machine's “Rabbits”. The battle lines were drawn when Truman put only Goats on the county payroll,[5] and the Klan began encouraging v**ers to support Protestant, “100% American” candidates, which was anathema to the Catholic Pendergasts. The Klan allied itself against Truman and with the Rabbits, and Shannon instructed his people to v**e Republican in the e******n, which Truman lost.[6] Truman later claimed that the Klan “threatened to k**l me, and I went out to one of their meetings and dared them to try”, speculating that if Truman's armed friends had shown up earlier, violence might have resulted. However, biographer Alonzo Hamby believes that this story, which is not supported by any recorded facts, was a confabulation based on a meeting with a hostile and menacing group of Democrats that contained many Klansmen, showing Truman's “Walter Mitty-like tendency […] to rewrite his personal history”.[7] Sympathetic observers see Truman's flirtation with the Klan as a momentary aberration and point out that his close friend and business partner Eddie Jacobson was Jewish, and assert that in later years, Truman's presidency marked the first significant improvement in the federal government's record on civil rights since the post-Reconstruction nadir marked by the Wilson administration.[8]

Robert Byrd Edit

Senator Robert Byrd was a Kleagle, a Klan recruiter, in his 20s and 30s.
Democrat United States Senator Robert C. Byrd was a recruiter for the Klan while in his 20s and 30s, rising to the title of Kleagle and Exalted Cyclops of his local chapter. After leaving the group, Byrd spoke in favor of the Klan during his early political career. Though he claimed to have left the organization in 1943, Byrd wrote a letter in 1946 to the group's Imperial Wizard stating "The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia." Byrd defended the Klan in his 1958 U.S. Senate campaign when he was 41 years old.[9]

Despite being the only Senator to v**e against both African American U.S. Supreme Court nominees (liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas) and filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Byrd later said joining the Klan was his "greatest mistake." The NAACP gave him a 100% rating on their issues during the 108th Congress.[10] However, in a 2001 incident Byrd repeatedly used the phrase "white n****rs" on a national television broadcast.[11]

Hugo Black Edit

Supreme Court justice Hugo Black.
Associate Justice of the United States Supreme Court Hugo Black, a Democrat. In 1921, Black successfully defended E. R. Stephenson in the sensational trial for the murder of a Catholic priest Fr. James E. Coyle. He joined the Ku Klux Klan shortly after, in order to gain v**es from the anti-Catholic element in Alabama. His membership ignited a national scandal when he was appointed to the Supreme Court. Black later said that joining the Klan was a mistake, but he went on to say "I would have joined any group if it helped get me v**es."[12][13]

Theodore G. Bilbo Edit

Senator Theodore G. Bilbo.
Theodore G. Bilbo, a Democrat and United States Senator from Mississippi revealed his membership in the Ku Klux Klan in an interview on the radio program Meet the Press. He said, "No man can leave the Klan. He takes an oath not to do that. Once a Ku Klux, always a Ku Klux."[14]

Rice W. Means Edit
Rice W. Means, a Republican United States Senator from Colorado, was endorsed by the Klan in Colorado. He served a three year term in Congress before losing renomination to Republican Charles W. Waterman in the 1926 e******n. [15]

Bibb Graves Edit

Governor Bibb Graves.
Bibb Graves, a Democrat, was the 38th Governor of Alabama lost his first campaign for governor in 1922, but four years later, with the secret endorsement of the Ku Klux Klan, he was elected to his first term as governor. Almost certainly Graves was the Exalted Cyclops (chapter president) of the Montgomery chapter of the Klan, but both Graves and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, another Alabama Klan member, were more opportunists than ideologues, politicians who used the temporary strength of the Klan to further their careers.[16]

Clifford Walker Edit

Governor Clifford Walker.
Clifford Walker, a Democrat and the 64th Governor of Georgia, was revealed to be a Klan member by the press in 1924.[17]

George Gordon Edit
George Gordon, a Democrat and Congressman for Tennessee's 10th congressional district became one of the Klan's first members. In 1867, Gordon became the Klan's first Grand D**gon for the Realm of Tennessee, and wrote its "Precept," a book describing its organization, purpose, and principles.

John Clinton Porter Edit
John Clinton Porter, an Independent, was a member of the Klan in the early 1920s, but was no longer a member when he was elected mayor of Los Angeles in 1928.[18]

Warren G. Harding Edit

Warren G. Harding by Harris & Ewing photo studio.
Warren G. Harding, a Republican, was allegedly a Ku Klux Klan member. Allegations that President Harding was a member are all based on a third-hand account of a second-hand recollection in 1985 of a deathbed statement made sometime in the late 1940s of an incident in the early 1920s. Independent investigations have turned up many contradictions and no supporting evidence. Historians reject the claim and note that Harding in fact publicly fought against the Klan.

Evidence for Harding's membership Edit
Wyn Craig Wade states Harding's membership as fact and gives a detailed account of a secret swearing-in ceremony in the White House, but bases this claim on a private communication in 1985 from journalist Stetson Kennedy. Kennedy, in turn had, along with Elizabeth Gardner, tape recorded the "late 1940s" deathbed confession of former Imperial Klokard Alton Young, who claimed to have been a member of the "P**********l Induction Team" as Young was dying in a New Jersey Hospital. Young also claimed to have repudiated r****m on his deathbed.[19] Wade claims that,[20]

"Simmons' ultimate vindication came when President Warren G. Harding agreed to be sworn in as a member of the Ku Klux Klan. A five-man “Imperial induction team,” headed by Simmons, conducted the ceremony in the Green Room of the White House. Members of the team were so nervous that they forgot their Bible in the car, so Harding had to send for the White House Bible. In consideration of his status, Harding was permitted to rest his elbow on the desk, as he knelt on the floor during the long oath taking. Afterward, the President appreciatively gave members of the team War Department license tags that allowed them to run red lights all across the nation."

Evidence against Harding's membership Edit
Wade states that “This matter was a major issue in letters sent to Coolidge during the 1924 e******n”, and gives a reference to “Case File 28, Calvin Coolidge papers, Manuscript Division, Library of Congress.” In this file there is a letter from Wizard Edward Young Clarke to President Calvin Coolidge on 27 December 1923, charging Wizard Hiram W. Evens with trying to turn the Klan into a “cheap political machine”. “It [the Klan] was to be an organization designed to up-build and develop spirituality, morality, and physically the Protestant white man of America.”

In their 2005 book Freakonomics, University of Chicago economist Steven D. Levitt and journalist Stephen J. Dubner alluded to Warren Harding's possible Klan affiliation. However, in a New York Times Magazine Freakonomics column, entitled "Hoodwinked? Does it matter if an activist who exposes the inner workings of the Ku Klux Klan isn't open about how he got those secrets?",[21] Dubner and Levitt said that they no longer accepted Stetson Kennedy's testimony about Harding and the Klan.

Primary source material on file at the Ohio Historical Society in Columbus does not contain evidence of Harding's alleged membership in the Klan.[citation needed] Primary source material on file at the Marion County (Ohio) Historical Society (Warren G. Harding Collection) also does not confirm or indicate any involvement in the Klan, nor support the idea of Harding’s alleged Klan membership.[citation needed] The Site Administrator[who?] of the Harding Home Museum (Ohio Historical Society property) in Marion, Ohio, draws a relationship between Harding's alleged Klan activities directly to the rumor-mill stirred up after the President died in 1923 and Mrs. Harding in 1924.

The 1920 Republican Party platform, which essentially expressed Harding's political philosophy, calls for Congress to pass laws combating lynching.[22] Harding was the first American President to publicly denounce lynching and did so in a landmark 21 October 1921 speech in Birmingham, Alabama, which was covered in the national press. Harding also vigorously supported an anti-lynching bill in Congress during his term in the White House. While the bill was defeated in the Senate, such activities would be in direct conflict with Klan membership.

In his book, The Strange Deaths of President Harding, historian Robert Ferrell says he was unable to find any records of any such "ceremony" in which Harding was brought into the Klan in the White House. John Dean, in his 2004 book Warren Harding also could find no proof of Klan membership or activity on the part of Harding. Review of the personal records of Harding's Personal White House Secretary, George Christian Jr., also do not support the contention that Harding received members of the Klan while in office. Appointment books maintained in the White House, detailing President Harding's daily schedules, do not show any such event.

Payne argues that the Klan was so angry with Harding's attacks on the KKK that it originated and spread the false rumor that he was a member.[23]

Carl S. Anthony, biographer of Harding's wife found no such proof of Harding's membership in the Klan, he does however discuss the events leading up to the period when the alleged Klan ceremony was held in June 1923:

...knowing that the some branches of the Shriners were anti-Catholic and in that sense sympathetic to the Ku Klax Klan and that the Klan itself was holding a demonstration less than a half mile from Washington, Harding censured h**e groups in his Shriners speech. The press "considered [it] a direct attack" on the Klan, particularly in light of his criticism weeks earlier of "factions of hatred and prejudice and violence [that] challeng[ed] both civil and religious liberty".[24]

In 2005, The Straight Dope presented a summary of many of these arguments against Harding's membership, and noted that, while it might have been politically expedient for him to join the KKK in public, to do it in private would have been of no benefit to him.[25]

David Duke Edit

David Duke former Grand Wizard in Sachsen, Germany, 2002
David Duke, a politician who ran in both Democrat and Republican p**********l primaries, was openly involved in the leadership of the Ku Klux Klan.[26] He was founder and Grand Wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan in the mid-1970s; he re-titled his position as "National Director" and said that the KKK needed to "get out of the cow pasture and into hotel meeting rooms." He claims to have left the organization in 1980. He ran for president in the 1988 Democratic p**********l primaries. In 1989 Duke switched political parties from Democrat to Republican.[27] In 1989, he became a member of the Louisiana State Legislature from the 81st district, and was Republican Party chairman for St. Tammany Parish, Louisiana.[28]

Benjamin Stapleton Edit
Stapleton, a Democrat, was mayor of Denver in the 1920s-1940s. He was a Klan member in the early 1920s and appointed fellow Klansmen to most positions in municipal government.[29]

RWNJ

Where you been, Willy? Haven't seen much of you the last few days.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Been spending some time doing the demo on my kitchen for the new tile, cabinets counters and floors....freakin wallpaper removal and wall float.
Now for the install after a day or two of recovery....damn chipping hammer on that thinset wore me down :-D
I've spent some time last couple of days slapping cooliobreeze and his r****t rants....freakin liberals running amuk, i still read early and have seen you popping them liberal heads....as always.

RWNJ

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: It's a full time job, lately. I keep throwing facts at them, and they keep ignoring them. You just can't fix stupid. :hunf:

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Quality time Willy!! How did the wallpaper removal go? I always loved that one! :hunf: :mrgreen:

RWNJ

OK. My PTSD just kicked in. I'm having flashbacks to when I helped recommission the USS Missouri. We had to chip all the paint off of at least a square mile of steel, sand it down, prime it, then paint it. When I left the service, I made a vow to never again pick up another paint brush.

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Went well Arch, i have learned to paint over it and give it a couple days to dry well, peel off the paint and top layer of wallpaper, the paint helps this alot.then spray the remaining layer of paper with water and it comes off easily with a 12" mud float...kinda like cold bacon grease from a sk**let brother......still rather be fishing though :-D

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Yep, deflect and run...repeat.
Liberal game plan for the last decade or so. :shock:

Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas

Yea, thats oil base crap there...hell putting on, worse to get off.

Would have been easier to get a new ship :-D

RWNJ

Well, I have to say it was worth it. I was so proud during the recommissioning ceremony. I've never worked so hard in my life.