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Nov 5, 2015 18:23:15   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Thursday - November 5, 2015

China Poised To DEMAND U.S. LAND As Payment For U.S. Debt

By Conspiracyclub - Mar 27, 2015


NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the c*******t nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work?


That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity.


Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss.


Yu Qiao, a professor of economics in the School of Public Policy and Management at Tsighua University in Beijing, proposed in 2009 a plan for the U.S. government to guarantee foreign investments in the United States.


WND has reliable information that the Bank of China, China’s central bank, has continued to advance the plan to convert China’s holdings of U.S. debt into equity owned by China in the U.S.


The Obama administration, under the plan, would grant a financial guarantee as an inducement for China to convert U.S. debt into Chinese direct equity investment. China would take ownership of successful U.S. corporations, potentially profitable infrastructure projects and high-value U.S. real estate.


The plan would be designed to induce China to resume lending to the U.S. on a nearly zero-interest basis.


However, converting Chinese debt to equity investments in the United States could easily add another $1 trillion to outstanding Obama administration guarantees issued in the current economic crisis.


As of November 2012, China owned $1.17 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities, according to U.S. Department of Treasury and Federal Reserve Board calculations published Jan. 16.


Concerned about the unrestrained growth in U.S. debt under the Obama administration, China has reduced by 97 percent its holdings in short-term U.S. Treasury bills. China’s holding of $573.7 billion in August 2008, prior to the massive bank bailouts and stimulus programs triggered by the collapse in the U.S. mortgage market, dwindled to $5.96 billion by March 2011.


Treasury bills are short-term debt that matures in one year or less, sold to finance U.S. debt. Holdings of Treasury bills are included in the $1.17 trillion of total Treasury securities owned by China as of November 2012.


In addition to a national debt in excess of $16 trillion, the U.S. government in 2010 faced over $70 trillion in unfunded obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits scheduled to be paid retiring baby boomer retirees in the coming decades, with unfunded obligations showing no sign of being reduced with Congress at a deadlock over reducing federal government spending.


Yu Qiao observed that if the U.S. dollar collapsed under the weight of proposed Obama administration trillion-dollar budget deficits into the foreseeable future, holders of U.S. debt would face substantial losses that the Financial Times estimated “would devastate Asians’ hard-earned wealth and terminate economic globalization.”


“The basic idea is to turn Asian savings, China’s in particular, into real business interests rather than let them be used to support U.S. over-consumption,” Yu Qiao wrote, reflecting themes commonly suggested by Chinese government officials. “While fixed-income securities are vulnerable to any fall in the value of the dollar, equity claims on sound corporations and infrastructure projects are at less risk from a currency default,” he continued.


The problem is that, in a struggling U.S. economy, China does not want to trade its investment in U.S. Treasury debt securities, with their inherent risk of dollar devaluation, for equally risky investments in U.S. corporations and infrastructure projects.


“But Asians do not want to bear the risk of this investment because of market turbulence and a lack of knowledge of cultural, legal and regulatory issues in U.S. businesses,” he stressed. “However if a guarantee scheme were created, Asian savers could be willing to invest directly in capital-hungry U.S. industries.”


Yu Qiao’s plan included four components:


China would negotiate with the U.S. government to create a “crisis relief facility,” or CRF. The CRF “would be used alongside U.S. federal efforts to stabilize the banking system and to invest in capital-intensive infrastructure projects such as high-speed railroad from Boston to Washington, D.C.


China would pool a portion of its holdings of Treasury bonds under the CFR umbrella to convert sovereign debt into equity. Any CFR funds that were designated for investment in U.S. corporations would still be owned and managed by U.S. equity holders, with the Asians holding minority equity shares “that would, like preferred stock, be convertible.”


The U.S. government would act as a guarantor, “providing a sovereign guarantee scheme to assure the investment principal of the CRF against possible default of targeted companies or projects”.


The Federal Reserve would set up a special account to supply the liquidity the CRF would require to swap sovereign debt into industrial investment in the United States.


“The CRF would lessen Asians’ concern about implicit default of sovereign debts caused by a collapsing dollar,” Yu Qiao concluded. “It would cost little and help the U.S. by channeling funds to business investment.”

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/03/27/china-demands-land-in-u-s-debt/

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Nov 5, 2015 20:52:37   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Thursday - November 5, 2015

China Poised To DEMAND U.S. LAND As Payment For U.S. Debt

By Conspiracyclub - Mar 27, 2015


NEW YORK – Could real estate on American soil owned by China be set up as “development zones” in which the c*******t nation could establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work?


That’s part of an evolving proposal Beijing has been developing quietly since 2009 to convert more than $1 trillion of U.S debt it owns into equity.


Under the plan, China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss.


Yu Qiao, a professor of economics in the School of Public Policy and Management at Tsighua University in Beijing, proposed in 2009 a plan for the U.S. government to guarantee foreign investments in the United States.


WND has reliable information that the Bank of China, China’s central bank, has continued to advance the plan to convert China’s holdings of U.S. debt into equity owned by China in the U.S.


The Obama administration, under the plan, would grant a financial guarantee as an inducement for China to convert U.S. debt into Chinese direct equity investment. China would take ownership of successful U.S. corporations, potentially profitable infrastructure projects and high-value U.S. real estate.


The plan would be designed to induce China to resume lending to the U.S. on a nearly zero-interest basis.


However, converting Chinese debt to equity investments in the United States could easily add another $1 trillion to outstanding Obama administration guarantees issued in the current economic crisis.


As of November 2012, China owned $1.17 trillion in U.S. Treasury securities, according to U.S. Department of Treasury and Federal Reserve Board calculations published Jan. 16.


Concerned about the unrestrained growth in U.S. debt under the Obama administration, China has reduced by 97 percent its holdings in short-term U.S. Treasury bills. China’s holding of $573.7 billion in August 2008, prior to the massive bank bailouts and stimulus programs triggered by the collapse in the U.S. mortgage market, dwindled to $5.96 billion by March 2011.


Treasury bills are short-term debt that matures in one year or less, sold to finance U.S. debt. Holdings of Treasury bills are included in the $1.17 trillion of total Treasury securities owned by China as of November 2012.


In addition to a national debt in excess of $16 trillion, the U.S. government in 2010 faced over $70 trillion in unfunded obligations, including Social Security and Medicare benefits scheduled to be paid retiring baby boomer retirees in the coming decades, with unfunded obligations showing no sign of being reduced with Congress at a deadlock over reducing federal government spending.


Yu Qiao observed that if the U.S. dollar collapsed under the weight of proposed Obama administration trillion-dollar budget deficits into the foreseeable future, holders of U.S. debt would face substantial losses that the Financial Times estimated “would devastate Asians’ hard-earned wealth and terminate economic globalization.”


“The basic idea is to turn Asian savings, China’s in particular, into real business interests rather than let them be used to support U.S. over-consumption,” Yu Qiao wrote, reflecting themes commonly suggested by Chinese government officials. “While fixed-income securities are vulnerable to any fall in the value of the dollar, equity claims on sound corporations and infrastructure projects are at less risk from a currency default,” he continued.


The problem is that, in a struggling U.S. economy, China does not want to trade its investment in U.S. Treasury debt securities, with their inherent risk of dollar devaluation, for equally risky investments in U.S. corporations and infrastructure projects.


“But Asians do not want to bear the risk of this investment because of market turbulence and a lack of knowledge of cultural, legal and regulatory issues in U.S. businesses,” he stressed. “However if a guarantee scheme were created, Asian savers could be willing to invest directly in capital-hungry U.S. industries.”


Yu Qiao’s plan included four components:


China would negotiate with the U.S. government to create a “crisis relief facility,” or CRF. The CRF “would be used alongside U.S. federal efforts to stabilize the banking system and to invest in capital-intensive infrastructure projects such as high-speed railroad from Boston to Washington, D.C.


China would pool a portion of its holdings of Treasury bonds under the CFR umbrella to convert sovereign debt into equity. Any CFR funds that were designated for investment in U.S. corporations would still be owned and managed by U.S. equity holders, with the Asians holding minority equity shares “that would, like preferred stock, be convertible.”


The U.S. government would act as a guarantor, “providing a sovereign guarantee scheme to assure the investment principal of the CRF against possible default of targeted companies or projects”.


The Federal Reserve would set up a special account to supply the liquidity the CRF would require to swap sovereign debt into industrial investment in the United States.


“The CRF would lessen Asians’ concern about implicit default of sovereign debts caused by a collapsing dollar,” Yu Qiao concluded. “It would cost little and help the U.S. by channeling funds to business investment.”

http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/03/27/china-demands-land-in-u-s-debt/
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Why not? Our own Government does not shy from appropriating folks "stuff", when they believe they are owed, so why wouldn't another country use the same technique?

It is embarrassingly obvious, that we will NEVER be able to repay the 20 trillion dollars we owe China and others and we are fast approaching the day, when we will not be able to afford the trillion dollar payments either. That means, that these countries OWN economic survival requires some kind of a return on their investment - and the only thing we have - is land and lots of it.

It wouldn't be a new precedent anyway, as many of our National parks and other cultural icons, are already owned by the Japanese and others. Soon, there won't be ANY completely and exclusively "American" anything - as Americans are selling stuff to foreigners as fast as the foreigners can come up with the cash. To add insult to injury, the cash generated by these sales - leaves the country as well.

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Nov 5, 2015 21:28:22   #
skdvr1 Loc: Mexizonia
 
If I had a better poker face, I'd offer China the cities of Washington DC and Detroit.

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Nov 5, 2015 21:37:48   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
Chicago and Oakland, CA too...
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skdvr1 wrote:
If I had a better poker face, I'd offer China the cities of Washington DC and Detroit.

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Nov 5, 2015 21:45:00   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
skdvr1 wrote:
If I had a better poker face, I'd offer China the cities of Washington DC and Detroit.


:thumbup: Love it~~~

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Nov 5, 2015 21:48:20   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Realistically it will never happen..The domino effect it would cause world wide would certainly be the demise of many a nation...

Not only that when you look at no more than the import/export trade of two countries neither would benefit from the repercussions of it in totality....

They call their debt, we call ours..Europe calls its debts etcetcetcetc...

World wide financial collapse...
Talk is big, reality of it will stop it from happening..

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Nov 5, 2015 23:17:05   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Chicago and Oakland, CA too...
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Please, let us not leave out Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.

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Nov 5, 2015 23:59:52   #
Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)
 
East L.A. Too...
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AuntiE wrote:
Please, let us not leave out Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.

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Nov 6, 2015 22:46:09   #
astrolite
 
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Chicago and Oakland, CA too...
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They aren't stupid! We would have to pay them to take those cities! They know that those cities are now worthless! as are the welfare people in them. And they know that we would love to get out of supporting them just so the democraps can get more v**es!

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