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Nov 2, 2015 15:27:57   #
parob2005
 
Mets deserved to loose the World series.Since when does a player override what a manager decides.Harvey should have been taken out in the top of the ninth but he acted like an ass in the dugout and the manager left him in,the results are history.Mets end up losing the world series because the manager gave in to Harvey.He should be fired!!!

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Nov 2, 2015 15:34:58   #
JMHO Loc: Utah
 
parob2005 wrote:
Mets deserved to loose the World series.Since when does a player override what a manager decides.Harvey should have been taken out in the top of the ninth but he acted like an ass in the dugout and the manager left him in,the results are history.Mets end up losing the world series because the manager gave in to Harvey.He should be fired!!!


Harvey must be a liberal, and a Hillary supporter.

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Nov 2, 2015 17:31:07   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
parob2005 wrote:
Mets deserved to loose the World series.Since when does a player override what a manager decides.Harvey should have been taken out in the top of the ninth but he acted like an ass in the dugout and the manager left him in,the results are history.Mets end up losing the world series because the manager gave in to Harvey.He should be fired!!!


I keep wondering if Harvey was pitching when the Royals scored runs 3, 4, 5 and so on. Didn't his replacement give up some runs other than what they got from Harvey?

The manager is to always be blamed for that failure to replace him just so he could become a shutout winner. Today so many people are having to hand out blame and there is enough of that to go around but they lost the game under the rules.

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Nov 3, 2015 09:34:36   #
pappadeux Loc: Phoenix AZ
 
My very thoughts, It shows a self serving attitude by the player and a lack of leadership by management. Lets see what happens over the next few weeks.

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Nov 3, 2015 13:48:53   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
parob2005 wrote:
Mets deserved to loose the World series.Since when does a player override what a manager decides.Harvey should have been taken out in the top of the ninth but he acted like an ass in the dugout and the manager left him in,the results are history.Mets end up losing the world series because the manager gave in to Harvey.He should be fired!!!


all harveys fault???
no credit to the other team??

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Nov 3, 2015 16:23:56   #
ken glanzer
 
I have no problem letting the pitcher start the 9th inning as he was still strong after 8 innings. The biggest mistake of the Mets mgr was leaving the pitcher in after the walk. He had 3 pitches way out of the strike zone showing he had lost his control. He had to come in with a strike and couldn't do it and he left him in. Then the next batter gets a double!
I saw he only had a thin jacket over his arm only after the 8th inning. It's important to keep the arm very warm in between innings and even a light massage is very beneficial I've found. The reliever was shown later even with the hood of his jacket even over his head as it was a cool night.
The first All Time Worst Blunder was not taking out the batter that got hit in the leg. The batter also should have taken himself out. He never even took any warm up swings before batting or even tried to run to see if his leg was OK. After he was out he was shown hobbling slowly back to the dug out. He would have had to hit a triple just to get to 1st safely. As I recall the bases were loaded and the mgr left in a totally disabled batter. That was the downfall of the Mets and the mgr should be fired for that blunder for sure. That was one of the worst mgr blunders I have ever seen in 75 years of watching baseball.
Umpires can't favor any team but if a player is injured they should be able to require the player to be able to function properly for his own safety by requiring him to run proving he is OK. If he can't run properly after a serious injury he should be evicted from the game even by an umpire if the Mgr doesn't. The fans deserve it also. The batter didn't try to run prior to batting either as he knew he couldn't. He was "Easy Meat" for the Royals pitcher.
If the 1st baseman had not thrown widely to home base the game would have been over also and covered up the Mgr Blunder of leaving the pitcher in for 2 batters that started the mess off!. There is no excuse for that either. He should be Released. He will have to live with that wild throw the rest of his life also.

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Nov 3, 2015 17:31:59   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
badbobby wrote:
all harveys fault???
no credit to the other team??


I haven't seen a Mets fan admit that they were beaten by the better team every time. Somehow they just don't seem to understand that sometimes the other team has something to say about it. The Mets screwed up on ground balls too many times in the whole thing and the Royals didn't seem to fail to get at ground balls and make excellent throws.

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Nov 3, 2015 18:22:16   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
oldroy wrote:
I haven't seen a Mets fan admit that they were beaten by the better team every time. Somehow they just don't seem to understand that sometimes the other team has something to say about it. The Mets screwed up on ground balls too many times in the whole thing and the Royals didn't seem to fail to get at ground balls and make excellent throws.



no loser like a sore loser
but I do understand
the Rangers blew the final game against Jays
was hard to take

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Nov 3, 2015 20:18:59   #
parob2005
 
badbobby wrote:
all harveys fault???
no credit to the other team??


Yea it was Harvey's fault.He wanted to be the super hero, he ended up being the goat!!!!

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Nov 4, 2015 00:21:56   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
parob2005 wrote:
Yea it was Harvey's fault.He wanted to be the super hero, he ended up being the goat!!!!


I thought letting him stay around was the very thing to do, but then I have never been a manager. I did do some good pitching when I was young though, and would been just like he was.

When something like that happens the manager is the man who makes up his mind and this time he admitted that he made a serious mistake but let his heart get in the way.

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Nov 4, 2015 13:50:54   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
oldroy wrote:
I thought letting him stay around was the very thing to do, but then I have never been a manager. I did do some good pitching when I was young though, and would been just like he was.

When something like that happens the manager is the man who makes up his mind and this time he admitted that he made a serious mistake but let his heart get in the way.


it's just a game guys
played with supposed grownups
and it starts over next season

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Nov 4, 2015 21:57:30   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
badbobby wrote:
it's just a game guys
played with supposed grownups
and it starts over next season


How many people get paid to play just a game as these guys get paid to do? It is a business that depends on the playing of a game.

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Nov 4, 2015 22:13:52   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
oldroy wrote:
How many people get paid to play just a game as these guys get paid to do? It is a business that depends on the playing of a game.


yeah it is a business and a bunch of supposedly grown men are over paid greatly

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Nov 4, 2015 22:17:34   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
badbobby wrote:
yeah it is a business and a bunch of supposedly grown men are over paid greatly


Overpaid? Tell that to the thousands of people who pay whopping amounts to see them play the game.

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Nov 4, 2015 22:31:47   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
oldroy wrote:
Overpaid? Tell that to the thousands of people who pay whopping amounts to see them play the game.



just my opinion roy

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