how-dare liberals suggest race has anything to do with Obama hatred (Page 4): Ok, lets see how you justify this dumbocrap created cesspool that your beloved obozo was and still is such...

The Progressive Patriot

The Dutchman wrote:

quote=barbara Has any other president been called... (show quote)

The Progressive Patriot

TheChardo wrote:

The Dutchman wrote:

quote=barbara Has any other president been called... (show quote)

quote=The Dutchman quote=barbara Has any other p... (show quote)

Duchman, this is your response to Barbaras very cogent and appropriate question? You answer her with an irrelevant and rambling diatribe about gun violence in Chicago??!! That is pathetic and it is proof that you really dont have any answer for her that makes sense so you launch into a psychotic tirade as a divergence. Yes we know that Chicago is violent, and we know that it and other such cities are generally democratic. So what!! Do you have any clue about inner city violence and the cause. What would you do about it? Im sure that you dont have an answer. And how the hell was this created by PRESIDENT Obama??!!
If you want to talk about gun violence talk about this; The Newton Conn. Shooter fired over 150 rounds in 5 minutes or less k*****g 26 people before the first cop got there. He was able to do so because he a 30 round clips and only had to stop to reload 4 times. If the clips were limited to ten rounds each, do you think that he would have been slowed down enough so that at least some of the victims would still be alive? And by the way, the assault weapon was legally purchased by someone else and given to this maniac. But Im sure youre opposed to an assault weapon ban, right? How many of those Chicago victims were felled by assault weapons? How many of those shooting would not have happened if stricter gun laws had been in place?Have you looked into that?.

The Ultra Conservative Brain

The Progressive Patriot

TheChardo wrote:

The Dutchman wrote:

quote=barbara Has any other president been called... (show quote)

quote=The Dutchman quote=barbara Has any other p... (show quote)

Duchman, this is your response to Barbaras very cogent and appropriate question? You answer her with an irrelevant and rambling diatribe about gun violence in Chicago??!! That is pathetic and it is proof that you really dont have any answer for her that makes sense so you launch into a psychotic tirade as a divergence. Yes we know that Chicago is violent, and we know that it and other such cities are generally democratic. So what!! Do you have any clue about inner city violence and the cause. What would you do about it? Im sure that you dont have an answer. And how the hell was this created by PRESIDENT Obama??!!
If you want to talk about gun violence talk about this; The Newton Conn. Shooter fired over 150 rounds in 5 minutes or less k*****g 26 people before the first cop got there. He was able to do so because he a 30 round clips and only had to stop to reload 4 times. If the clips were limited to ten rounds each, do you think that he would have been slowed down enough so that at least some of the victims would still be alive? And by the way, the assault weapon was legally purchased by someone else and given to this maniac. But Im sure youre opposed to an assault weapon ban, right? How many of those Chicago victims were felled by assault weapons? How many of those shooting would not have happened if stricter gun laws had been in place?Have you looked into that?.

quote=TheChardo quote=The Dutchman quote=barbar... (show quote)

And I don't want to hear that crap about how Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country. Problem is that there is no wall around the city and guns that are available elsewhere flow freely into Chicago. That's what we need strict, national standards. Chicago could serve as a model for the country!

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

Show me one major legitimate political figure who said anything as bad about Obama as Gore said about Bush - "he betrayed us"

The Progressive Patriot

Dave wrote:

Show me one major legitimate political figure who said anything as bad about Obama as Gore said about Bush - "he betrayed us"

Bush did betray us!! In many ways. And Backman said: CBS News) In impassioned remarks at Friday's Values V**er Summit in Washington, D.C., former GOP p**********l candidate Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., went after President Obama on foreign policy, calling him the "most dangerous president we have ever had," and directly tying his policies to the recent violence in Egypt and Libya. So what's the point, we could do this all day.

And: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bachmann-obama-lift-islamists-impose-sharia

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

TheChardo wrote:

quote=Dave Show me one major legitimate political... (show quote)

Bachmann to Republicans is as Kuchsinich is to Democrats -Gore wasn't just a candidate - he had been VP for two terms and the nominee.
As to your comment that Bush did betray us, that puts you right along with the intellectual heft of those who say Obama is a Muslin. Congrats.

The Progressive Patriot

barbara wrote:

Has any other president been called "psycho", "schizophrenic", "f*****t", "c*******t" (this about a guy who bailed out banks and the auto industry), out to destroy America, etc., as he has been referred to by many commentators on the right. Is it any coincidence that the president they are condemning with these perjoratives is black?

Every time one of these USELESS i***ts call Obama a Marxist or a F*****t- terms that they confuse and use interchangeably no less they really want to call him a n***r. Every time that that say that he does share our values, or that he is foreign or lazy they want to use the N word but dont dare. Thats what the whole birther thing is about. Every time the first lady is disrespected and ridiculed for some trivial thing that she said or did, they really want to call her a N***r. When they howl about the vacations that they take- far fewer than Bush by the way, they are really calling them uppity N***rs. And, the lies and conspiracy tactics go way beyond politics. There is a visceral hatred for the first family that I have not seen in many years of following politics. Even Nixon got more respect. Our friend the Duchman knows this and can't deny it, which is why he has to create a divergence with this Chicago thing, and go off topic.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

TheChardo wrote:

quote=barbara Has any other president been called... (show quote)

It takes a special arrogance to suggest you know what is in the hearts and minds of others, or if not arrogance it is t***sference - assuming the motives of others what is in your own heart and mind.

As to the degree of hatred - what you see is disagreement with somebody you agree with, and I'm sure you were bothered very little by those who alleged Bush was involved in a conspiracy known as 9/11/01 - unless, of course, you're one of those nutcases who believed that - like 30% of registered Democrats did as shown on a least one survey done back then

The Progressive Patriot

Dave wrote:

quote=TheChardo quote=barbara Has any other pres... (show quote)

I would not rule it out. Why is that any more rediculous than the s**t that's said about Obama? 30% of republicans think he's a Muslim http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-poll-shows-conservative-republicans-increasingly-believe-obama-is-muslim/

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

OK, Bush is the devil, Obama is a saint, and you are so superior to all you can devine the motives of those who disagree with you.

There are i***ts on both sides. Right i***ts think Obama a Muslim born outside the US. Left i***ts think Bush planned and executed 9/11.

I believe - you are a lefty i***t who believes one of those propsosition - hardly worthy of intelligent discourse.

The Progressive Patriot

Dave wrote:

OK, Bush is the devil, Obama is a saint, and you are so superior to all you can devine the motives of those who disagree with you.

There are i***ts on both sides. Right i***ts think Obama a Muslim born outside the US. Left i***ts think Bush planned and executed 9/11.

I believe - you are a lefty i***t who believes one of those propsosition - hardly worthy of intelligent discourse.

I didn't say Obama is a saint...However, the attacks on him and his wife are unprecidented, despicable and unjustified and are not just about political diferences. You can fight some one on policy matters without despargaing them at every turn, without questioning their faith or patriotism. To your credit, you agree that those who are calling him a Muslim are i***ts. But your an exception, and the fact that so many others are using that as a slur, and largely with impunity is very telling. Talk about the arrogance of knowing what's in someones mind? We'll, only he can know what he believes. All we can go by is what people do and say and I go by the behavior of the right and to me it's obvious. You guys like to say that you're the tollarent party right? We'll then, did you ever hear someone on the right say, when questions about his religion are raised " It doesn't matter"? That would be the correct answer because under the constitution that they claim to love so much, it does not matter.
Yet no one speaks out. There are only two kinds of conservatives...those who call him a Muslim and those who let them get away with it.Very telling indeed.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

The attacks on each and ever president are unprecedented - Bush was called a monkey, Bush was accused of profiting from a war, Bush was accused of planning and executing 9/11.
Clinton was accused of drug running, and of murder - and rape.

Reagan was accused of extreme stupidity, or enormous callousness, and of wanting to start a nuclear war.

Now, were all of those accusations based on race, religion or something else.

As far a I'm concerned you're as much a kook for believing Bush may have orchastrated 9/11 as right wing kooks are for believing Obama is a Muslin.

I'll leave you kooks from both sides to deal with each other - I prefer dealing with intelligent people from both sides.

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

By the way, I don't say we're the tolerant party - because I'm not part of any party - once a Democrat, I got a bit more information and became independent - that way I can think and don't need the minders you have to tell me what to think

The Dutchman

My Re: to The Chardo's mindless rantings

Duchman, this is your response to Barbaras very cogent and appropriate question?

I responded to her bull s**t rant in my Re: to Dave's post but as it appears your selective reading overlooked it

You answer her with an irrelevant and rambling diatribe about gun violence in Chicago??!!

So instead of YOUR mindless bull s**t ranting about what you say is "an irrelevant and rambling diatribe about gun violence in Chicago" prove me wrong with some of the facts your left wing radicals always rant about yet never seem to come up with. You can't, because there are none to support your socialistic un-American bull s**t claims.

That is pathetic

What is really pathetic is your inability to see what is really happening to America

and it is proof that you really dont have any answer for her that makes sense so you launch into a psychotic tirade as a divergence. Yes we know that Chicago is violent, and we know that it and other such cities are generally democratic. So what!! Do you have any clue about inner city violence and the cause.

I most certainly do know what has caused all the inner city violence and it's the dumbohcraps failed leadership and your either to blind to see or just to stupid to realize it! Your failure to acknowledge what the dumbocrap leadership is doing to this country is unbelievable!

What would you do about it?

First get rid of the socialistic, marxist dumbohcraps and put some sane leadership in there, then start prosecuting the criminals instead of coddling them. Commit a crime with any weapon that could maim or k**l and they get the death penalty by a PUBLIC execution. Get caught dealing drugs and get the same! Do it all within 90 days without d**gging it on for years fattening the pockets of the lawless blood sucking lawyers

Im sure that you dont have an answer.

[u]And how the hell was this created by PRESIDENT Obama??!![u]

Research his background involvement in the criminal acorn organization. All the time he spent as a community organizer was most likely organizing inner city crime!

If you want to talk about gun violence talk about this; The Newton Conn. Shooter fired over 150 rounds in 5 minutes or less k*****g 26 people before the first cop got there. He was able to do so because he a 30 round clips and only had to stop to reload 4 times. If the clips were limited to ten rounds each, do you think that he would have been slowed down enough so that at least some of the victims would still be alive?

Yet more of your mindless ranting about something you obviously know very little to nothing about. Check this out before you try to blow yet more of your socialistic radical far left wing bull s**t in our direction! This just goes to show the dim wits that think it's all about the capacity of the magazine that is the culprit when it's really the whacko democrat shooters that we need to get rid of!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2Upjn5DR0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

And by the way, the assault weapon was legally purchased by someone else and given to this maniac.

Like always you don't have a clue to what the facts are!! The nut case k**led his mother in order to steal the gun, so what makes you think some one gave it to him?

But Im sure youre opposed to and assault weapon ban, arent you?

I unlike you am opposed to any attempt by the socialist left wing wackos to infringe on my constitutional rights to Keep and Bear Arms or any other rights

How many of those Chicago victims were felled by assault weapons? Have you looked into that?.

No because I really don't give a rats ass! The facts are! more people are k**led with a lot of other things than guns but you liberals can't seem to realize it! What are you going to want banned next? Cars, Knives, Hammers??

The Dutchman

Dave wrote:

OK, Bush is the devil, Obama is a saint, and you are so superior to all you can devine the motives of those who disagree with you.

There are i***ts on both sides. Right i***ts think Obama a Muslim born outside the US. Left i***ts think Bush planned and executed 9/11.

I believe - you are a lefty i***t who believes one of those propsosition - hardly worthy of intelligent discourse.

Dave the socialists are only following the lead of the Venezuela dictator calling bush the devil because they don't want the t***h known. The real question is: Is the obozo the son of satan or satan himself? See any similarities to who was portrayed as him on the history channel?