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Sep 12, 2013 17:56:42   #
petertimber
 
bluejacket wrote:
I am not familiar with Mr Savage ( I am assuming mister) what is his area of interest


Please listen to him on WABC RADIO, 770AM (ESWT) 9-11PM, Monday to Friday coast to coast. He is avid pursuer of t***h and is of Jewish origin and bashes Jews and Arabs and anybody everywhere who do bad to their fellow man. His observations are intriguing and not even mentioned in the loopy media that we have no choice but to read,watch or listen

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Sep 12, 2013 18:13:13   #
Ve'hoe
 
I don't get those vibes from Beck or Savage.... now I do get those vibes from Rachel Maddow, and MSNBC listeners... as well as a big heaping helping of cynicism and conspiracy.....

Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Your credibility is decreased by your need to support your position with your own accomplishments. The h**e filled rhetoric of Michael Savage doesn't sit well with me. The man says derogatory things about other people all time.

Here is what I have observed: Glenn Beck listeners are darkly pessimistic, Michael Savage listeners are conceited and h**eful, and Rush Limbaugh listeners are broadminded optimists. I don't listen to any of them often, but Rush never confirms my hatreds or my depression. And I appreciate that.
Your credibility is decreased by your need to supp... (show quote)

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Sep 12, 2013 20:02:20   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
petertimber wrote:
Mike Savage's orations as being h**e filled?How can you compare his stating facts and observations be considered "h**e filled". How do you confuse his delivery on the radio with H**E..??

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When the t***h holds distasteful news, some people see it as "h**e-filled". And if I h**e the facts I hear, I am entitled to h**e them, but denying them is infantile. Some people would prefer t***h, if it contains h**e, not be told.

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Sep 12, 2013 20:28:50   #
Ve'hoe
 
Very good,, the concept that some people possess today in America that you are entitled to not ever be offended, has allowed emotionalism to replace reason.



Tasine wrote:
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When the t***h holds distasteful news, some people see it as "h**e-filled". And if I h**e the facts I hear, I am entitled to h**e them, but denying them is infantile. Some people would prefer t***h, if it contains h**e, not be told.

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Sep 12, 2013 20:54:15   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
I don't get those vibes from Beck or Savage.... now I do get those vibes from Rachel Maddow, and MSNBC listeners... as well as a big heaping helping of cynicism and conspiracy.....


Glenn Beck doesn't keep telling his listeners that America is about to collapse?

Michael Savage doesn't use inflammatory language and derogatory terms to "bash" people he deems to be doing bad things?

I disagree.

However, you haven't followed your topic in your response to me. Isn't there some t***h to Rachel Maddow and MSNBC? I wouldn't know.

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Sep 12, 2013 21:13:09   #
Ve'hoe
 
Hmmm Beck seems to me to reveal the end of the line on our current trajectory,,, which I agree with,,, but also he delivers a powerful and heartfelt desire to come together left and right to "repentence" (for wont of a better word).

Savage can be, well savage,,, I suppose if I was a jew I would feel the same.

As an American Injun who keeps a house on a res I know how he feels... trapped and endangered

Maddow,,, I guess there is a general thread of t***h, but I believe she spins everything to the ultra nut wing left side,, which isn't helpful because it denies that the otherside has any intention of doing something good and right,,, and they do have that intention as much as the left,, sometimes it just is a bad idea, or doesn't go the way they intend,, doesn't make them evil for trying...

Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Glenn Beck doesn't keep telling his listeners that America is about to collapse?

Michael Savage doesn't use inflammatory language and derogatory terms to "bash" people he deems to be doing bad things?

I disagree.

However, you haven't followed your topic in your response to me. Isn't there some t***h to Rachel Maddow and MSNBC? I wouldn't know.

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Sep 13, 2013 07:58:55   #
snowbear37 Loc: MA.
 
timmh67 wrote:
Tasine... Your are exactly right. Also I might add, if the US wants to avoid becoming a second world class to the eyes of other nations that use to look up to the US then the administration needs to quit acting like a second world class nation, like leading from behind and bowing down to the kings of a third world country... Obama just handed over to Putin the first world class leading nation title over this meaningless war in Syria.


Too late.

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Sep 13, 2013 08:44:42   #
Ve'hoe
 
No,,, I think I told the t***h. That is the intent of the topic,,, to determine whether we even know what is true anymore... it is much harder than it sounds,,isn't it? It REALLY isn't easy anymore.

Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Glenn Beck doesn't keep telling his listeners that America is about to collapse?

Michael Savage doesn't use inflammatory language and derogatory terms to "bash" people he deems to be doing bad things?

I disagree.

However, you haven't followed your topic in your response to me. Isn't there some t***h to Rachel Maddow and MSNBC? I wouldn't know.

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Sep 13, 2013 09:38:24   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Tasine wrote:
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I believe the common thread is that our government is not the government given us by the US Constitution. Our government is foreign to the American citizen. It has huge secrets it needs to hide because once Americans know the t***h, they are liable to recall a lot of elected officials and legally try a bunch of bureaucrats. I believe it is as simple as that. I also believe it is so thoroughly entrenched that there is little chance of changing it peacefully.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Sep 13, 2013 09:56:35   #
bluejacket
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
No,,, I think I told the t***h. That is the intent of the topic,,, to determine whether we even know what is true anymore... it is much harder than it sounds,,isn't it? It REALLY isn't easy anymore.


I believe there is in any subject a basic t***h , the issue is when we as human beings interject out feelings and cultural backgrounds and experiences in the telling of those t***hs with the previously mentioned things to color our perception of the t***h, it then becomes an opinion , that some cling to as the t***h

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Sep 13, 2013 10:06:11   #
petertimber
 
cold iron wrote:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


When I read the word foreign in your above statement it triggered off the foreign nature of the Obama administration as set forth in this analysis.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-eighteenth-brumaire-of-barack-obama/

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Sep 13, 2013 10:21:54   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
No,,, I think I told the t***h. That is the intent of the topic,,, to determine whether we even know what is true anymore... it is much harder than it sounds,,isn't it? It REALLY isn't easy anymore.


Was it ever?

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Sep 13, 2013 13:24:14   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Tasine wrote:
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I believe the common thread is that our government is not the government given us by the US Constitution. Our government is foreign to the American citizen. It has huge secrets it needs to hide because once Americans know the t***h, they are liable to recall a lot of elected officials and legally try a bunch of bureaucrats. I believe it is as simple as that. I also believe it is so thoroughly entrenched that there is little chance of changing it peacefully.


I hope you're wrong, but you probably aren't.

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Sep 13, 2013 14:47:04   #
Ve'hoe
 
Not sure,,, sometimes the romantic ideas of
"the old days" seem easier,,,, not sure they ever really were. As you get older, you begin to see some of your great ideas dashed (because they were foolish and people told you so) and believe it or not,,, there was a time when nobody could tell me anything....

Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Was it ever?

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Sep 13, 2013 14:48:20   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Ve'hoe wrote:
Telling the t***h is difficult. Probably the Hardest thing we humans can attempt to do. We (as humans) "filter" everything through the sieve of our experience. I attended a conference in Denver once about telling the t***h. In the conference was a family of women, 4 Generations. They took a family event, and each woman described what happened. It was incredible the difference between the ages, in what they observed or what they thought about what they observed. The last part of the exercise was to get all parties together and tell the exact "T***h" of what happened. The event was almost unrecognizable from the different stories.

So lets take the Current Syria Mess and Talk about "EXACTLY and ONLY" what we "KNOW"

What do we "REALLY KNOW" about Syria? Snowden or what ever you want to really talk (not fight) about

1. An attack on a Compound ended the life of an American Diplomat. (this is REALLY ALL WE KNOW)
2. We don't "KNOW" who.
3. We don't know WHY.
4. We don't know our Presidents Actions.
5. We don't know Hillary's actions.
6. We don't know if anything is being done.

Isnt that sad, for a government of the people, by the people and for the people? Why cant we KNOW the T***h?

Snowden,
What we know: He had access to classified ( we don't know what level) information. He thought he was going to blow the whistle, something went wrong. He ran to China, then Russia. He is giving out information,,, unfortunately to our hereditary enemies.


Is there a common thread in these stories, that WE THE PEOPLE can glean?
Telling the t***h is difficult. Probably the Hard... (show quote)


It's also really sad that we can't depend on the news media to tell the t***h either. My opinion is : they (News & Govern.) are all running the biggest Ponzi scheme ever ! It's all about putting money in their pockets and getting re-elected to put more of our money away .
We have to stop the government from giving our tax money away and stop them from taking anybody's money !
It's all about money and power to get more money!
I think they are taking our tax money and giving to special interest groups , then the special interest groups give them huge campaign donations back. All using our tax dollars.
Sounds like a Ponsi scheme to me !

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