Christianity has nothing to do with belief; it is a spirit of action
Oct 9, 2015 03:56:16 #
Once a person has accepted Christ, these two requirements are left for salvation: BECOME as a "little child" and care for "the least of these." That's it. Your battles over doctrines and beliefs is infantile and vane.
Oct 9, 2015 09:24:19 #
fiatlux wrote:
Once a person has accepted Christ, these two requirements are left for salvation: BECOME as a "little child" and care for "the least of these." That's it. Your battles over doctrines and beliefs is infantile and vane.
Not true. Salvation is a free gift. Once you are saved there are no requirements.
Oct 9, 2015 16:43:09 #
fiatlux wrote:
Once a person has accepted Christ, these two requirements are left for salvation: BECOME as a "little child" and care for "the least of these." That's it. Your battles over doctrines and beliefs is infantile and vane.
Can you provide me the book, chapter, and verse in the bible that states becoming as a little child and caring for the least of these is a REQUIREMENT for salvation? There is only one
If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. As the Scriptures tell us, Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced. Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. For Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 10:9-13
Oct 10, 2015 03:38:10 #
fiatlux wrote:
You seem terribly belligerent about this, so maybe the battle you speak of is actually internal. Those damned demons again! Gotta watch those little suckers, they're cunning as hell. Once a person has accepted Christ, these two requirements are left for salvation: BECOME as a "little child" and care for "the least of these." That's it. Your battles over doctrines and beliefs is infantile and vane.
"Put on the whole armor of God that you may withstand the assaults of the devil", and like that.
Oct 11, 2015 02:44:50 #
Rufus wrote:
Not true. Salvation is a free gift. Once you are saved there are no requirements.
Not requirements per se but simple results of true faith in Christ alone. Caring for the least of these is an absolute: a requirement. But how this requirement is met...? Answer that question and we can talk.
Oct 11, 2015 03:07:33 #
Rufus wrote:
Not true. Salvation is a free gift. Once you are saved there are no requirements.
No, it is not; works are required. Martin Luther got most of it right.
Oct 11, 2015 08:30:06 #
fiatlux wrote:
No, it is not; works are required. Martin Luther got most of it right.
I'll ask another way...Can you provide me the book, chapter, and verse in the bible that states works are required is a REQUIREMENT for salvation?
Oct 11, 2015 09:22:31 #
fiatlux wrote:
Not requirements per se but simple results of true faith in Christ alone. Caring for the least of these is an absolute: a requirement. But how this requirement is met...? Answer that question and we can talk.
You were correct when you said works are a result of being saved. The Holy Spirit inspires us and instills a desire in us to do good works. The works are a testimony to our being believers. James says, " faith without works is dead. " God is love and He puts love in us. Because we have love in us after we are saved we want to help others and give to others. We also want to be obedient to God. All of these good works are a result of being saved, not a prerequisite or a requirement. Consider this: A person in the hospital who cannot move or speak may accept Christ and be saved and not have the ability to communicate with others or do any traditional good works. Yet they are saved. Because they are saved I would be willing to bet they pray for others. I would consider this being obedient and a form of good works. I hope this will help. God bless.
Oct 11, 2015 10:12:34 #
susanblange
Loc: USA
Only righteousness delivers us from eternal death, and only the righteous enter heaven. The wicked and "the guilty" will go to hell. Salvation depends on the condition of our soul when we die. We cannot commit a deadly sin or not repent. Repentance is a 4 step process. 1) Remorse 2) Confession 3) Restitution and 4) Change. Most of us don't know when we will die, so we should live every moment like it's our last.
Oct 11, 2015 14:15:03 #
fiatlux wrote:
The Muslim goes through life balancing his good works against his bad (this determined, of course, by the doctrines of Islam). If he wishes to get to "paradise", his good works in life must outweigh his bad. The good Muslim keeps tabs on the good and bad things he does. If, for instance, he should inadvertently see some "forbidden" skin on a woman other than his wife, he must then come up with two good "works" to offset such a sin.Not requirements per se but simple results of true faith in Christ alone. Caring for the least of these is an absolute: a requirement. But how this requirement is met...? Answer that question and we can talk.
Jesus came to offer the gift of salvation to all takers. "knock and the door shall be opened unto you, ask and ye shall receive, seek and ye shall find . . . " The ball is in our park. And, this we must first do--accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, sincerely, without conditions or reservations, receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and we are saved. Only then and quite naturally do our good works follow. We are not held to account for this simply because good works is the nature of those who are saved.
Oct 11, 2015 15:14:41 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
The Muslim goes through life balancing his good wo... (show quote)
:thumbup: Amen Blade.
Oct 12, 2015 00:29:24 #
mwdegutis wrote:
Can you provide me the book, chapter, and verse in... (show quote)
"Becoming as a little child" is believing in your heart. There is no formula for salvation. Jump through these hoops and you are good to go? Hardly!
Oct 12, 2015 08:49:50 #
fiatlux wrote:
"Becoming as a little child" is believing in your heart. There is no formula for salvation. Jump through these hoops and you are good to go? Hardly!
You are sadly mistaken and don't know your bible very well if at all because you rarely if ever provide biblical proof of your assertions. Seems it's just your opinion.
Oct 13, 2015 02:08:37 #
Rufus wrote:
Not true. Salvation is a free gift. Once you are saved there are no requirements.
That's just plain silly.
Oct 13, 2015 02:13:26 #
mwdegutis wrote:
Can you provide me the book, chapter, and verse in... (show quote)
Jesus said that "...unless you become as a little child you will not enter the kingdom of heaven." Revelation tells us we are judged by our works for the least of these. "...openly declaring your faith that you are saved" is freely caring for the least of these.
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