SamDawkins

http://framingbusiness.net/archives/232

46 reason it may not be.

smurphy Loc: Co

I see no similarities whatsoever. Just kidding.

Where I grew up, almost everything about my life was an echo from a hundred years before. I could be said to be a myth based on how closely my life mirrored an ancestor a century before me. Yet that is not to say, as was common practice in those days, that certain appellations of importance and majesty were not added to the story of Jesus as a form of praise and not as matters of fact, as would have been understood by any listener.

We do something similar today. Great feats by a person can be likened directly to another who is considered in that field to be the exemplar or alluded to in recognized feats by that exemplar. It is a story looking to convey a person of exceptional qualities. Jesus also has in his "history" certain aspects from the legend of Mithras. Insisting these are factual elements is both problematic and unnecessary. Yet for the Bible Inerrantist, he or she most twist themselves in knots to make them reality and in so doing distract from the spiritual potency of the life and message of Jesus.

Virgin birth, shepherds in attendance, a star leading the magi, a manger? Who cares, what does it serve?

Grugore

Hog wash. All of it. The similarities are superficial, at best. Most of them are also from texts that postdate the resurrection of Christ. Jesus is unique, in all of history.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I untwisted those knots years ago. Each of those are historical facts. Each fulfills a Biblical prophecy made about the Messiah's birth centuries before it occurred, thereby validating that Jesus was who He said He was.

- As for Mithras, he was a Roman adaptation of the pagan Persian Sun god religion. Remember, Satan loved to imitate God, for he sought to be worshipped as God.

Grugore

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

smurphy Loc: Co

Jesus untwisted those knots, which had nothing to do with actual events. The biblical prophecies, like his life, point to a king and savior of humanity. Shepherds, manger, magi, virgin birth are superfluous to his mission and message and only intended to portend his heavenly majesty. Could those things be "historical facts"? Perhaps, yet true or untrue or mere appellations, it changes nothing, strengthens nothing, enhances nothing about Jesus is Lord. I am not going to hang my faith or salvation on the street address of some barn in Bethlehem. It is oh so very very very inconsequential. Getting hung up such things, I have found, takes away our attention to do what is necessary for our salvation: care for the least of these. Yes, works are necessary!

I brought up Mithras and I am well-aware of his supposed history.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Everything you say is conjecture and supposition.

But what did you actually say

1. Are you sure the story of Jesus is original??
2. http://framingbusiness.net/archives/232
3. 46 reason it may not be.

In all actually you didn't say a thing, you only pointed to your Secular Atheistic h**eful anti-Christian belief philosophy.

Everything you say is conjecture and supposition against Dod, Christian religious institution and individuals of faith, and spiritual beliefs.

But what did you actually say: Only anti-Christian vile-conjecture and supposition.

Your, a Joke . . . . . Love your total idiocy and secular rhetoric, pure stupidity on tour lack of intelligence to be continuing this yellow brick road athiestic fantasy of yours.

The Last athiestic fantasy of yours brought out a few fanatical crazies.
Like interestedparty http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-50985-3.html

Good Job, and you have the morality to justify just what ?

SamDawkins, And your still a pompous fool, with less than credible "Got-ya" headlines,and secular atheist shock extremist just trying to push the boundaries.

A flash in the pan.

smurphy Loc: Co

No, not a flash in the pan, points needed to be seriously addressed.

jelun

Guess you missed the word "may".
Why is it necessary to attack someone who asks you to consider a position?

Doc110 Loc: York PA

So when is it common place to attack Christian Beliefs. What are Christians doing that is so wrong and evil to believe in God or have faith and spiritual belief. Is this open hunting season to do just that and question my religious beliefs.

Well tomorrow I'll start posting and an OPP post article about Atheist and what is wrong about their dogma and secular beliefs.

Tuche and On-guard

Doc110 Loc: York PA

And their attack position is justified in your book.

So Let me ask you a question, Am I right to attack your morals or political liberal beliefs. It's the same exact same thing.

Your so blind.

jelun

Funny, I didn't see anyone attack Christian beliefs.
All I saw was a suggestion that all systems of faith share certain foundations.
What makes some Christians different is this insistence that it is fact based.
Sounds like there really isn't much faith.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Julen tour defending the un-defendable, there is no justification

Who asks you to consider a position to defend SamDawkins position?

jelun

The only thing I can ask you is to try to make sense.

Doc110 Loc: York PA

Thats because you don't know what faith is.

Your still blind.