Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

Remember There Is Over a Years To Go Before The E******n That Will Either Save America From The Left or Lose It Forever...

At this point NO candidate is 100% perfect to my eyes, say it ain't so, yes I'm like everyone else looking for the perfect person (I almost said guy!), but so far he/she hasn't shown up, Trump is better than just okay, Rubio is too, Carly seems to have the "fire" (I almost said "balls"!), Carson has the pose and insight, Cruz has a proven record of telling the RINO's to go to hell, Christy will be a good V.P. if he is asked, and the rest with the exception of Jeb are okay as also ran's, and Jeb, well if his name was Jones he wouldn't even be on the stage...

"The Bolsheviks & Anarchist Are At The Gate And Coming Over The Wall"... Don D.

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How Conservative is Carly Fiorina?

Red State Staff - Sept 19, 2015


Since the last debate, Carly Fiorina has been the flavor du jour among Republicans who have concluded that the zeitgeist demands an outsider and who are beside themselves at the possibility that the outsider might be Donald Trump. RedState is in a unique position to discuss this because in 2010 we supported Chuck Devore in the Republican primary against Carly Fiorina.


While Fiorina made a full-throated defense of life at the debate her previous views on the subject were radically different.


For instance, back in 2004, Fiorina was described this way by the San Jose Mercury:


A person familiar with Fiorina’s intentions said she has long harbored a desire to get into politics, but doesn’t want to reveal her aspirations because she doesn’t want to be perceived as less than dedicated to her job at HP. Republican insiders said Fiorina, whom they described as a moderate and pro-choice, is a rare breed, and she could have a bright future in politics.


In 2008, she acted as a Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) surrogate.


Trying to ease the Columbus women’s fears about McCain’s pro-life views, Fiorina claimed the senator “has never signed on to efforts to overturn Roe v. Wade.” (McCain said in 2007 he thought Roe “should be overturned.”)

And:


The McCain campaign welcomed delegates to Denver with a new ad Monday, showing Debra Bartoshevich, a self-described “proud Hillary Clinton Democrat,” announcing that she opposes Barack Obama and will v**e for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). To back up the message, Republicans arranged a press-conference in Denver Monday morning with Bartoshevich and other Clinton supporters, who are all now backing McCain.


Midway through the event, Bartoschevich was asked if she was concerned about McCain’s pro-life v****g record. At a podium paid for by the Republican National Committee, with McCain aide Carly Fiorina standing nearby, Bartoschevich said this:


Going back to 1999, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) did an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle saying that overturning Roe v. Wade would not make any sense, because then women would have to have illegal a******ns.


Erick had this say:


We endorsed Chuck DeVore in the GOP California Senate primary over Carly Fiorina. We did so because of DeVore’s proven record of staunch conservatism — which he continues fighting for now, having just helped k**l a California open-carry ban — but also because we didn’t really trust or know anything about Fiorina.

Carly’s conservative record was thin to nonexistent, and there were many troubling signs that she held liberal view.

From her praise of Jesse Jackson, to her playing the race and g****r cards against DeVore, to her support for the Wall Street bailouts, to her qualified support for the Obama stimulus, to her past support for taxation of sales on the Internet, to her waffling on immigration, to her support for Sonia Sotomayor, to her Master’s thesis advocating greater federal control of local education, to her past support for weakening California’s Proposition 13, to her statement to the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board that Roe v. Wade is “a decided issue,” Carly Fiorina’s oft-repeated claim to be a “lifelong conservative” was only plausible in the universe of NRSC staffers who recruited her in the first place.

During the primary, Fiorina aggressively positioned herself to the right, aided by millions in self-funding and the support of a DC-based network more interested in her money and her connections than in any conservative principles.


While Fiorina has been called the right outsider, there is no critique of Donald Trump’s political positions that can’t be made of hers.


To a great extent, Fiorina is a clone of Rudy Giuliani: a fairly liberal Republican with some good features.


Though we look askance at Trump when he suddenly become pro-life, we see that Fiorina had a come-to-Jesus moment on the same issue. Unlike Trump, she seems to have been politically pro-abort, acting as McCain’s surrogate to assuage fears among embittered pro-Hillary women that McCain was wooing in 2008. Was she a Judas-goat, deceiving these women? Or was she pro-abort? We sort of have to take it on faith that she isn’t yet another “5th Avenue liberal” to use a phrase that has gotten a lot of traffic recently and has legitimately changed.


To a lesser extent we can apply the same test to Ben Carson. Only last year, Carson seemed to be in favor of gun control:


“It depends on where you live. I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it.”


Is his conversion to being pro-Second Amendment a result of better informing himself? Or is he just saying this because he knows gun control is a Third Rail in GOP politics?


To me it seem patently wrong, in fact it is silly, to say that Trump is a liberal, even though he has never campaigned for anything, and claim he hasn’t changed his positions but is merely deceiving us when, on the other hand, Carly Fiorina gets rave reviews even though she campaigned for a US Senate seat as a very liberal Republican a mere four years ago against a RedState endorsed candidate. While Trump may have donated to New York Democrats, Fiorina seems to be a favorite of the NRSC and the same nice folks that gave you the Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) campaign. Is one of these worse than the other?


There are a lot of good reasons to support Fiorina but exactly none of reasons are her consistently held positions. Could she have “evolved”? Sure. And I have no reason to doubt that she has but that is a matter of FAITH not FACT. But if you choose to believe President Fiorina would govern as a conservative you lose your ability to claim President Trump would govern as a liberal and be taken seriously.


With Trump, Carson, and Fiorina in the race we could, with a lot of justification, call this the “Shiny Object Primary.” All of them are actually political ciphers. No one know what any of them believes because they have never had to act upon their beliefs inside the government. I don’t know what the standard is for making a decision other than using your own prudential judgment.



Carly Fiorina Moves A******n to Center Stage

Red State Staff - Sept 20, 2015


In the second GOP debate the subject of Planned Parenthood and its baby harvesting operation came up. Carly Fiorina had this to say:


As regards Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes. Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, it’s heart beating, it’s legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.


This is about the character of our nation, and if we will not stand up in and force President Obama to veto this bill, shame on us.


Then the left does what it does best: obfuscate and defend the indefensible.This is the clip from the video that set off the controversy.


The emotionally stunted Amanda Marcotte (who once was fired from the John Edwards campaign for anti-Catholic bigotry and threatened to not sleep with men who weren’t actively pro-abort) fired:


It was quite a performance, and it opens the question of what Fiorina was inhaling before she watched those videos. There is nothing in the videos made by CMP, either in the edited or full-length versions, that has anything approaching images of legs kicking or hearts beating.


Sarah Kliff (who refused to cover Kermit Gosnell’s trial because it was a local crime story) posted:


But the things Fiorina describes — the legs kicking, the intact “fully formed fetus,” the heart beating, the remarks about having to “harvest its brain” — are pure fiction.


The Hill claims:


The anti-a******n-rights group targeting Planned Parenthood is acknowledging that its most recent video used an image of a stillborn baby that was made to look like an aborted fetus. The Center for Medical Progress posted a new link on its video late Thursday, adding that one of the images was actually a baby named Walter Fretz, born prematurely at 19 weeks.


Mollie Hemingway at The Federalist has done a commendable job of pulling the various threads together.


In the video in question, a technician is talking about harvesting the brain of an alive, fully formed fetus. While she tells her story, there is footage of another baby of roughly the same gestational age as the one whose brain she harvested. This baby is seen still kicking and its heart still beating.


While it is obviously not the same baby as the one she harvested the brain of, the footage helps viewers to understand what a 19-week old baby looks like when hearing the testimony of an ex-employee who harvested brains from babies of the same age. Illustrating stories with appropriate images is a common journalistic technique, one used by all media outlets.


And the people who provided the film to CMP confirms to Mollie that the baby in the video was not stillborn:


“The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery a******n. It was filmed at an a******n clinic. It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don’t go to a******n clinics to miscarry. Had this case been a miscarriage, the mother would have presented at a hospital and her baby would have been rushed to an Isolate for appropriate neonatal care — not abandoned to writhe and eventually expire in a cold, stainless steel specimen vessel. As regards the organizational affiliation of the a******n facility in which this termination was performed, our access agreements forbid the disclosure of any information which might tend to identify the relevant clinics or personnel with whom we work.


Preserving confidentiality is vital to future clinic access. I can, however, assure you that the footage in question is not anomalous. It is representative of the frequent outcomes of many late term intact delivery terminations performed at clinics of all organizational affiliations.”


What the left is doing is saying that because the voice-over did not match the baby in the in the video even though the voice-over described the process and the baby in the surgical pan is very much alive. By saying the video is edited (it is, all video is edited if the public is going to see it) and that Fiorina lied about the contents of the video, the pro-aborts and the multitudinous media allies will tell the moral midgets who back this hideous practice that they shouldn’t watch the videos and see for themselves what they are supporting.


Fiorina,herself, is doubling down on her statement (something that makes me like her more):


The Atlantic:


Thursday on Good Morning America, George Stephanopoulos pressed Fiorina on the discrepancy, asking if she misspoke. “I didn’t misspeak and I don’t know who you’re speaking about in terms of watching the tapes, but I have seen those images,” she said. “I don’t know whether you’ve watched the tapes, George. Most people haven’t.” He again asked her to specify, and she deflected with an answer to a question he didn’t ask, about whether the tapes were doctored: “Well, you know, there’s a lot of commentary about these tapes being doctored. In fact, that’s what the mainstream media keeps talking about is the tapes and their origins. Rest assured, I have seen the images that I talked about last night.”


The New York Times:


On Friday, Mrs. Fiorina expressed astonishment that anyone had questioned her comments.


“Honestly, I went on national television the morning after the debate and George Stephanopoulos of ABC News told me that I was mistaken, that the tapes don’t exist, that the images aren’t real,” she said. “Well, yes, ladies and gentlemen, they are real and I will issue my charge again.”


Mrs. Fiorina has sided with hard-liners in her party who would promote a budget showdown with Mr. Obama over Planned Parenthood’s funding.


On Friday, she suggested that any discussion of a government shutdown should be reframed, with Mr. Obama as the prospective culprit.


“President Obama, if you’re prepared to shut down the government to defend this kind of barbarity,” she said, “have at it, and explain it to the American people.”


Moreover, what Fiorina has done is force the CMP videos back into the news:


Fiorina’s Planned Parenthood statement at the debate is a huge c**p. She has forced the mainstream media to cover videos that they have tried desperately to ignore for months, and made them look like fools in the process. Carly, rightly, is not backing down. Republicans should not, either.


Beyond that, Fiorina has signaled that she isn’t playing by the old rule book.


In the past, Republicans ran from a******n like scalded dogs. Even though the pro-life position (if you toss in the rape and incest exceptions) polls very strong, much stronger than the a******n-on-demand regime advocated by virtually every Democrat, Republicans have been reluctant to use it and one thing they will never do is use video like CMP’s video.


Periodically, the GOP would declare a “truce” on a******n because they can’t really afford to run on any issue that definitively separates them from the Democrats. (Two years ago I posted on The A******n Truce and why it is a self-defeating trap for the GOP, it remains just as accurate today as it was then.) John Kasich, who was forced into attacking Planned Parenthood during the debate, has clearly signaled that a******n is not his priority:


“I think (a******n) is an important issue, but I think there’s many other issues that are really critical. Early childhood. Infant mortality. The environment. Education,” he said. “I think we focus too much on just one issue, and now that the issue of gay marriage is kind of off the table, we’re kind of down to one social issue.”


Fiorina’s statements will more likely than not still be thrown at other candidates but based on her not backing down we may have moved a******n to center stage in this campaign.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

She was less impressive on the Sunday Fox News show. She totally denys the fact that what she claims to have seen on the Planned Parenthood videos is not actually on the videos. I watched all I could find and just as all the fact checkers did, I didn't see what she claims to challenge everyone to look at and see. AND, she's doubling down on it as well. Not a good sign. And she claims politics is a low-fact zone. I think she knows.

She scored big when she burned Trump with those lazers coming out of her eyes, but all in all, I think she's going to fade as she gets more air time.

Don G. Dinsdale Loc: El Cajon, CA (San Diego County)

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