no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

a fascinating video on bias and Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1As55U-bKQ

also interesting videos are
The Quran where did it come from?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1As55U-bKQ

the infidels' guide to the Quran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuZD-uvU5c

the devil we don't know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIXwGFapvcY

I have read much of the Quran and these videos ring true as far as the last parts of the Quran. Many people who have studied it say that you are supposed to take the later parts as valid as they reveal the later revelations of Mohamed.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

The Qur'an is very deceptive. It's compilation is reversed, with Muhammad's last writings (the Medinan suras) mostly in the front instead of in back, the opposite of how they would appear if in true chronological order, making it difficult to locate the "later" revelations.

Their claim is that the suras are placed by their length, the shortest Suras in the front of the book, and progressively longer regardless of the
actual date of their authorship.



On many subjects, contradictory suras are present. Muhammad was said to have abrogated the older "revelation," replacing it with the newer, but the older suras are never discarted, which creates confusion, for a muslim can guide someone unfamiliar with it to whichever point of view they find advantageous at the time, as both are present.

His first revelations, or the Meccan suras, the kinder, gentler ones, written before Muhammad had many followers, or any political or military power, are mostly found in the back, as though they were his final conclusions.

The Qur'an tells readers that "the closest to the Muslims in faith are the Christians, because among the Christians one will find people who are devoted to learning, who have rejected the world and they are not arrogant," etc.

Earlier, as though a forethought is hatred for the infidels:

Unbelievers are described by Muhammad (in the Qur'an) as "the vilest of animals" and "losers." Christians and Jews are hated by Allah to the extent that they are destined for eternal doom as a result of their beliefs.

The Qur'an:

- "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever among you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

Muhammad denied that Christianity was true:

"Allah Has no Son Those who believe that Allah has a son must be admonished since this is a monstrous blasphemy and falsehood (18:4-6). Allah has never begotten a son and there are no deities beside him (23:91). Jews say that Ezra is the son of Allah while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. May Allah destroy them. They are both perverted. They worship rabbis, monks and the Messiah, the son of Mary, as Lords besides Allah in opposition to the monotheistic command given them" (9:30, 31).

"Muslims, fight everyone who rejects Islam, even Christians and Jews, until they pay regular financial tribute with willing submission and feel themselves completely subjected to their Islamic conquerors (9:29)."

This is really an ancient form of ransom or even piracy.

"People of the Bible should not exaggerate. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, his word he cast to Mary and a spirit from him. So believe in Allah and his messengers and stop saying “three”. Allah is only one. He is too transcendent and majestic to have a son. The Messiah is not ashamed to be a slave of Allah (4:171,172, 5:72,73)."

"The Christians, Jews and idol worshipers, who do not believe in Mohammed or the Qur'an, are going to burn forever in hell and are the worst creatures on earth" (98:6).

This last part means that the Muslim is allowed to feign friendship if it is of benefit to them and to the cause of Allah. Renowned scholar Ibn Kathir states that "believers are allowed to show friendship outwardly, but never inwardly."

Qur'an (3:118) - "O you who believe! do not take for intimate friends from among others than your own people, they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from out of their mouths, and what their breasts conceal is greater still; indeed, We have made the communications clear to you, if you will understand."

This verse not only warns Muslims not to take non-Muslims as friends, but it establishes the deep-seated paranoia that the rest of the world is out to get them.

Qur'an (9:23) - "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers"

Even family members are not to be taken as friends if they do not accept Islam. (This is the mildest interpretation of this verse from the 9th Sura, which also advocates "slaying the unbeliever wherever ye find them" ).

There is no love in the Qur'an. It is the book of a warrior.

The first time I really examined a Qur'an, many years ago, I looked at the index, in the back of the book where a "concordance" would appear in a Study Bible.

Because the Bible teaches that God is love, I looked for the word love. It was not there. "Love" is not in the index of the Qur'an; however, there is a page and one/half of the Wrath and Judgment of Allah...

Obviously, it is not the same God that they worship, not the God of Israel, not the God of the Bible. Although Islam claims they worship the same God, the Qur'an is Antichrist in spirit, as they deny that Jesus is anything more than a prophet, and claim that Muhammad is the last, and the greatest of the prophets.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Exceptionally informative post. Thanks for adding true information to the discussion. And the left believes that Dr. Carson is an Islamaphobe for not wanting a believer in the Koran as president. Actually Dr. Carson is apparently the only one with common sense.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Can you provide any videos of the Christian Church demonstrating the same bias....at the end of the day...the church is composed of people, inspired by fear and hate. Not one of them has ever met God.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

The "ecclesia," Koine Greek for the congregation, i.e., the Body of Christ, also referred to as the Christian Church, is composed of those willingly drawn in by the Holy Spirit, through the Truth, Love and Forgiveness found in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The fear and hate of which you speak is experienced by muslims, who know their own family will kill them, if they dare to attempt to leave the Islamic faith, and they are taught by the Qur'an they must physically conquer the earth, and kill every human being who refuses to submit to Allah, by converting to Islam. This is Muhammad's gospel.

The Bible teaches, "Whomsoever will, may come." (and have eternal life).

The Qur'an teaches, "He who will not convert to Islam, kill him."

There is no point of comparison.