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Outsiders Trump and Carson lead with Republicans. Democratic primary looks more predictable.

BY CATHLEEN DECKER
Fueled by derision for politics as usual, Donald Trump has vaulted to the top of the Republican race for president among California v**ers, a new USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times poll has found.
T***p w*n the support of 24% of California Republicans surveyed, while Ben Carson, a retired neurosurgeon and lesser-known conservative favorite, was backed by 18%. More than a dozen other candidates, most of them elected politicians, resided in the single digits, far behind the leaders.
The anti-establishment flavor of the Republican race contrasted with the predictability of the Democratic primary, in which longtime national front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton held an expansive lead in California over Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and others.
The potential entrance of Vice President Joe Biden, who is considering a 2016 bid, did little to diminish Clinton’s dominance, the poll found. In California, as elsewhere, the path forward for Biden remains difficult barring an utter collapse of Clinton’s candidacy, the results suggested.
Trump’s support rested on his blunt and often excoriating approach to the race
— an approach that has confounded political insiders — and particularly on his tough talk about i*****l i*********n, a subject that has ricocheted through California politics for more than two decades and helped weaken the state Republican Party. The poll indicated Trump’s supporters were highly motivated by the issue.
“This is the first time I have heard a p**********l candidate speak about something that is really important and has gotten out of control,” said Mario Di-Pasquale. “That is, i*****l a***ns, and nobody is doing anything about it.”
The 57-year-old Hawthorne Republican and Trump supporter said he’d had to “reinvent” himself professionally twice as earlier jobs became dominated by Latinos. He blamed Latinos for taking jobs and for engaging in crime.
“I grew up with b****s; I’m cool with them,” he said. “What I’m not OK with is everywhere you go it’s brown people, everywhere you go.”
With nearly nine months to go before California’s p**********l primary closes out the nominating season, both contests remain fluid, with the GOP race particularly open to change. Among Republicans, 1 in 5 v**ers polled in the state was undecided about which candidate to back, and many candidates were unknown to a quarter or more of v**ers interviewed. Among those planning to cast b****ts in the Democratic primary, about 1 in 6 was undecided.
Trump’s lead over Carson was within the margin of error for the poll’s sample of Republicans — 5.3 points in either direction. Among Democrats, who have many more v**ers eligible to participate in the primary, the margin was 3.6 points in either direction.
The poll questioned 1,500 registered v**ers by tele phone from Aug. 29 through Sept. 8. It was conducted by the Democratic firm Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research and the Republican firm American Viewpoint on behalf of the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences and the Los Angeles Times.
California Republicans have opted for the safe and predictable candidate in most p**********l e******ns, so their embrace of Trump
— even if it proves temporary — is notable.
Yet if Jeb Bush, the former Florida governor and an archetype of a candidate successful in California, is hoping that blue-state Republicans can rescue his campaign, the poll offers little comfort. He was in a tie for a distant third place with Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, each getting 6% support. Bush’s father and brother won a total of four p**********l primaries here — and George H.W. Bush was the last Republican to win the state in a general e******n, in 1988.
Bush, Cruz and the other conventional politicians in the GOP race are all falling to the strong outsider tide: 47% of v**ers in the poll sided with three candidates who have not held elective office: Trump, Carson and Carly Fiorina, the former Hewlett-Packard chief executive who lost a Senate race in California in 2010. Leaving aside the one-fifth of respondents who were undecided, well over half of those who had a favorite candidate chose a person who had never served in office.
Candidates competing against Trump have hoped that the New York real estate tycoon will find himself eclipsed as the gargantuan field of 16 GOP candidates inevitably narrows. For now, the poll indicated, that is wishful thinking.
When California Republicans were asked how they would v**e if they were choosing among Trump, Carson, Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio — the four candidates who led nationally when the poll was conducted — Trump strengthened his standing, with 27% of the v**e. Carson added 7 percentage points for a near-tie with Trump at 25%. Rubio and Bush eked their way into double digits, at 13% and 11% respectively.
In individual head-to-head competitions, Trump clocked Bush, 47% to 32%. But outsider Carson de  feated Trump, 43% to 32%.
“Right now we are all clearly watching the Donald Trump show,” said Dave Kanevsky of American Viewpoint, the Republican polling firm. But, he noted, even popular shows can find themselves canceled.
“Trump has a high floor,” Kanevsky said. “But he could potentially have a low ceiling against a non-Jeb Bush candidate.”
Indeed, 35% of Republican v**ers polled said they would never consider v****g for Trump — three times the percentage that felt that way about Carson. That would normally prove daunting, but in this year’s factionalized race, Trump was only fifth-highest on the list of GOP candidates shunned by their own party members in California.
Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul, who has hoped that his opposition to government spying and advocacy of changes in the criminal justice system would attract young and minority v**ers, was dismissed by half of Republicans surveyed.
Also highly unpopular were New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Bush, all of whom had alienated more than a third of GOP respondents. Lesser-known, and thus less polarizing, were Rubio and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.
The v**ers’ early verdict was perhaps most humbling for Fiorina. Just four years after she spent tens of millions to impress them, fewer than half of California Republicans surveyed would consider v****g for her, and 23% said they would never consider it.
As they do nationally, Trump’s California supporters represent something of a caucus of the aggrieved. They are younger and more male — he received support from 30% of male Republicans but just 18% of GOP women. His largest level of support came from men who did not attend college, 32% of whom sided with him. Generally speaking, they are among those hit the hardest by the shaky economy and opposed to immigrants in the country illegally.
But Trump’s current support is not limited to those v**ers: He won among w****s, minority v**ers (a small and conservative slice of the GOP in California), men, nonconservatives, the young, older v**ers, college graduates, the married and the unmarried.
Carson and Trump divided the party’s conservatives and women, and the retired doctor was narrowly behind in other categories. Some v**ers interested in Carson’s campaign described him as Trump without the bluster — an outsider lacking Trump’s downsides if also his fiery appeal.
Supporters of Trump and Carson had a far bleaker notion of California than other Republicans; only 5% of Trump backers and 8% of Carson v**ers said the state was headed in the right direction. Among supporters of other candidates,18% said the state was going in the right direction.
Roland Lizott, a Navy veteran who works in real estate management, said Trump was “talking a good game. ... He’s saying things a lot of people want to say.”
“Is he going to become president? I don’t believe so
— we already have enough nuts running the country,” Lizott said, laughing. He, too, said he was attracted to Trump’s stance on immigration, which includes deportation of immigrants here illegally and the construction of a southern border wall.
“They just need to start enforcing the laws in this state. Anytime you say anything about immigration you’re a bigot, and that’s not the case,” he said. “There’s a lot of people out here stressed about their jobs.”
Lizott, a resident of Rose-ville, northeast of Sacramento, said he was looking at a few candidates but liked Carson. “Think about it: He’s a brain surgeon,” he said. “He’s got to think of all the possibilities before he does something. He’s not going to go off half-cocked.”
If the Republican race presented a blizzard of possibilities, the Democratic p**********l contest oozed clarity.
Clinton, who with husband and former President Bill Clinton has cultivated California politically for more than two decades, led her nearest active competitor, Sanders, a political independent, 42% to 26%. Other Democrats were in the low single digits — if they registered at all.
Clinton’s victory in the 2008 p**********l primary was driven by turnout among women and Latinos, and the poll indicated those groups remained bulwarks of support. She beat Sanders by 24 points among women and 37 points among Latinos. Asian v**ers in the survey sided with her 41% to 20%, and pluralities of liberals, moderates and conservatives also were in Clinton’s camp.
Sanders’ strength in polls elsewhere has been driven by w****s and liberals, and those were his strongest backers in California as well. He earned 38% of liberals to 44% for Clinton and 33% of white v**ers to 36% for Clinton. He came closest to toppling her among independent v**ers who indicated they would v**e in the Democratic primary: 29% sided with Clinton and 28% with Sanders. (Democratic Party members went for Clinton 46% to 26%.)
“She has a very solid coalition of moderate-type Democrats and nonw****s that someone like Sanders or anyone from the left flank would have to overcome,” said Drew Lieberman of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner, the Democratic polling firm. “I don’t see a sign that there’s enough of a protest v**e out there to beat her in a head-to-head battle.”
Even when Biden was added to the candidate mix, Clinton remained relatively strong at 39%, compared with 23% for Sanders and11% for Biden. Biden pulled v**es equally from the two top candidates. The vice president was in the low double digits in almost every demographic category except for independent v**ers, where he won 14%, mostly at Sanders’ expense.
Some of Clinton’s v**ers have hurried to batten down the hatches, an approach common to tumultuous campaigns waged by both Clintons. Debra Sexton, a Democrat from C****a, supported Clinton in 2008 and believes she was a good secretary of State. She dismissed the furor over Clinton’s use of a private server for government email as “stupid political fodder.”
“The more they complain about her, the more that I’m going to support her,” said Sexton, a retired photography printer. “In all honesty, I don’t see them treating the other candidates the way they do her.” She attributed that to Clinton’s g****r and name.
But even Sexton expressed some worry about Clinton’s early, and rocky, efforts in the 2016 campaign.
“I wish she would relax a little more,” Sexton said. cathleen.decker 
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