Senate Investigating Intel Lies...
Tim Max - Sep 10, 2015 - The Daily Beast
Exclusive: Top Senators Investigating Cooked ISIS Intel
The heads of the armed services and intelligence committees all pledged to get to the bottom of a revolt by U.S. Military analysts, uncovered by The Daily Beast.
Leading congressmen from both parties said Thursday that theyre investigating allegations that intelligence on ISIS was being skewed to match the Obama administrations rosy depictions of the war against the terror group.
The news comes less than a day after The Daily Beast revealed that more than 50 analysts with the U.S. militarys Central Command formally complained that higher-ups were improperly interfering with ISIS intelligence reports. Top defense and intelligence officials also said theyre looking into the accusations.
The Senate Armed Services Committees chairman, Republican Sen. John McCain, told The Daily Beast, Were investigating
Our committee is looking at it, we have jurisdiction and oversight.
McCains counterpart in the House of Representatives, Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry, called the allegations troubling and said that his committee was also looking into them.
Accurate intelligence and unbiased analysis can often be a life or death matter and must remain free from political pressure, he added.
The staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee has already met with one of the whistleblowers who complained about the altering of intelligence reports to the Pentagons Inspector General, according to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the committee and its former chairwoman. The U.S. Central Command analysts filed a complaint in July.
Feinstein said the Defense IG probe could take up to a year, which she believed was too long.
Sen. Richard Burr, the committees chairman, said he was content to allow the Pentagon investigation to play out, and that no congressional action should occur until a report is finished. Im going to continue to let the IG work through it, because it has been referred to him, Burr said.Im trying to reach the chairman to see if he and I could sit down with this individual, Feinstein said, referring to a whistleblower who has met with the committees staff. This whistleblower, as far as Ive been told, seems credible.
Were going to have a [ISIS] status meeting in Armed Services next week, and Im going to be asking about it, added Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine.
The politicization of intelligence products would be a major issue, and these allegations need to be thoroughly investigated. The Intelligence Committee will take all appropriate action to ensure our nations policymakers receive unbiased analysis from the Intelligence Community, said House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes in a statement.
Added his Democratic counterpart, ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff, we do take seriously any allegations of the mishandling or manipulation of intelligence information for purposes other than getting to ground t***h. In the wake of the flawed intelligence prior to the Iraq War, we must make sure that all voices are appropriately considered and that assessments are never again politicized.
I think its deeply troubling and it needs to be investigated, Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte said. We need our intelligence analysts to feel comfortable playing it straight. Weve had, obviously, issues with faulty intelligence in the past and its just important that our decision makers to have good information.
The allegations of intelligence manipulation could have far-reaching consequences. Already, one senator is using the so-called CENTCOM intelligence revolt to push for a v**e explicitly authorizingor withholdingmilitary operations against the so-called Islamic State.
Sen. Kaine, who is a leading proponent of passing a new authorization for the use of military force, says the allegations of intelligence manipulation, if proven true, underscore the need for such a v**e.
Dont you see why we need to do an authorization for this war? Its spreading, its mutating. Theres new theaters of war that are engaged, Kaine told The Daily Beast. If what [the whistleblowers are] saying is right, theyre saying that its a more complicated, protracted, long-term war than maybe people were led to think. If thats the case, we ought to be doing an authorization.
Reports on allegations of cooked intelligence and sanitized reports had reverberations elsewhere throughout Washington on Thursday. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter reminded military leaders that they should give their candid assessment of the U.S. war effort.
Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook told reporters that Carter ordered Marcel Lettre, the acting Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, to remind top defense intelligence officials they should provide their unvarnished, t***sparent intelligence because that is what the secretary expects on a daily basis.
And Gen. Vincent Stewart, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, was asked about The Daily Beasts report and the IG investigation by Fox News Catherine Herridge, who was moderating a panel of intelligence agency directors in Washington. Analysts for the DIA working at U.S. Central Command were among those who lodged complaints.
Stewart declined to comment on the investigation, which he said continues. But in general, he said, We take great p***e in the idea of speaking t***h to power.
We p***e ourselves on our analytic rigor, Stewart said. It is not clean, it is not science.
He concluded by saying, The investigation will play itself out and determine if we did anything wrong.
with additional reporting by Nancy A. Youssef and Shane Harris
Is there any part of government that this administration hasn't tainted?
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
Tim Max - Sep 10, 2015 - The Daily Beast
Exclusive: Top Senators Investigating Cooked ISIS Intel
The heads of the armed services and intelligence committees all pledged to get to the bottom of a revolt by U.S. Military analysts, uncovered by The Daily Beast.
Leading congressmen from both parties said Thursday that theyre investigating allegations that intelligence on ISIS was being skewed to match the Obama administrations rosy depictions of the war against the terror group.
The news comes less than a day after The Daily Beast revealed that more than 50 analysts with the U.S. militarys Central Command formally complained that higher-ups were improperly interfering with ISIS intelligence reports. Top defense and intelligence officials also said theyre looking into the accusations.
The Senate Armed Services Committees chairman, Republican Sen. John McCain, told The Daily Beast, Were investigating
Our committee is looking at it, we have jurisdiction and oversight.
McCains counterpart in the House of Representatives, Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry, called the allegations troubling and said that his committee was also looking into them.
Accurate intelligence and unbiased analysis can often be a life or death matter and must remain free from political pressure, he added.
The staff of the Senate Intelligence Committee has already met with one of the whistleblowers who complained about the altering of intelligence reports to the Pentagons Inspector General, according to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the top Democrat on the committee and its former chairwoman. The U.S. Central Command analysts filed a complaint in July.
Feinstein said the Defense IG probe could take up to a year, which she believed was too long.
Sen. Richard Burr, the committees chairman, said he was content to allow the Pentagon investigation to play out, and that no congressional action should occur until a report is finished. Im going to continue to let the IG work through it, because it has been referred to him, Burr said.Im trying to reach the chairman to see if he and I could sit down with this individual, Feinstein said, referring to a whistleblower who has met with the committees staff. This whistleblower, as far as Ive been told, seems credible.
Were going to have a [ISIS] status meeting in Armed Services next week, and Im going to be asking about it, added Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine.
The politicization of intelligence products would be a major issue, and these allegations need to be thoroughly investigated. The Intelligence Committee will take all appropriate action to ensure our nations policymakers receive unbiased analysis from the Intelligence Community, said House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes in a statement.
Added his Democratic counterpart, ranking member Rep. Adam Schiff, we do take seriously any allegations of the mishandling or manipulation of intelligence information for purposes other than getting to ground t***h. In the wake of the flawed intelligence prior to the Iraq War, we must make sure that all voices are appropriately considered and that assessments are never again politicized.
I think its deeply troubling and it needs to be investigated, Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte said. We need our intelligence analysts to feel comfortable playing it straight. Weve had, obviously, issues with faulty intelligence in the past and its just important that our decision makers to have good information.
The allegations of intelligence manipulation could have far-reaching consequences. Already, one senator is using the so-called CENTCOM intelligence revolt to push for a v**e explicitly authorizingor withholdingmilitary operations against the so-called Islamic State.
Sen. Kaine, who is a leading proponent of passing a new authorization for the use of military force, says the allegations of intelligence manipulation, if proven true, underscore the need for such a v**e.
Dont you see why we need to do an authorization for this war? Its spreading, its mutating. Theres new theaters of war that are engaged, Kaine told The Daily Beast. If what [the whistleblowers are] saying is right, theyre saying that its a more complicated, protracted, long-term war than maybe people were led to think. If thats the case, we ought to be doing an authorization.
Reports on allegations of cooked intelligence and sanitized reports had reverberations elsewhere throughout Washington on Thursday. Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter reminded military leaders that they should give their candid assessment of the U.S. war effort.
Pentagon Press Secretary Peter Cook told reporters that Carter ordered Marcel Lettre, the acting Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, to remind top defense intelligence officials they should provide their unvarnished, t***sparent intelligence because that is what the secretary expects on a daily basis.
And Gen. Vincent Stewart, the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, was asked about The Daily Beasts report and the IG investigation by Fox News Catherine Herridge, who was moderating a panel of intelligence agency directors in Washington. Analysts for the DIA working at U.S. Central Command were among those who lodged complaints.
Stewart declined to comment on the investigation, which he said continues. But in general, he said, We take great p***e in the idea of speaking t***h to power.
We p***e ourselves on our analytic rigor, Stewart said. It is not clean, it is not science.
He concluded by saying, The investigation will play itself out and determine if we did anything wrong.
with additional reporting by Nancy A. Youssef and Shane Harris
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JFlorio wrote:
Is there any part of government that this administration hasn't tainted?
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I don't know what is going on, but I am NEVER surprised at stories like this one. There is not one single solitary soul in DC that I would even consider trusting. It's time all of them were sent home and forced to be humble for just once.
Tasine wrote:
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I don't know what is going on, but I am NEVER surprised at stories like this one. There is not one single solitary soul in DC that I would even consider trusting. It's time all of them were sent home and forced to be humble for just once.
Personally, I think I would trust Trey Gowdy. I believe if he hadn't had any opposition, he would have already got to the bottom of the B******i ordeal.
Gowdy, Cruz, Lee, Manchin, Menendez, Gomert, all have stood up to their party.
Peaver Bogart wrote:
Personally, I think I would trust Trey Gowdy. I believe if he hadn't had any opposition, he would have already got to the bottom of the B******i ordeal.
JFlorio wrote:
Gowdy, Cruz, Lee, Manchin, Menendez, Gomert, all have stood up to their party.
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I don't want people who stand up for "their party". Neither party represents me OR the US Constitution. I do, in t***h, have more faith in Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruz than any of the others. THEY don't act as much like good Republicans as they act like good Americans.......the two are not necessarily synonymous.
Pretty much what I said. The Washington elite have decided they know what's better for all of us whether we like it or not. Have you noticed on OPP that the more conservative posters will throw politicians we have v**ed for under the bus if they lie but liberals don't hold any of their politicians accountable. When they are caught lying they are the first to make excuses for them. Sickening.
Tasine wrote:
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I don't want people who stand up for "their party". Neither party represents me OR the US Constitution. I do, in t***h, have more faith in Trey Gowdy and Ted Cruz than any of the others. THEY don't act as much like good Republicans as they act like good Americans.......the two are not necessarily synonymous.
JFlorio wrote:
Pretty much what I said. The Washington elite have decided they know what's better for all of us whether we like it or not. Have you noticed on OPP that the more conservative posters will throw politicians we have v**ed for under the bus if they lie but liberals don't hold any of their politicians accountable. When they are caught lying they are the first to make excuses for them. Sickening.
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Oh, yes, I've noticed. The difference is that the Democrat Party OWNS its v**ers. Its v**ers are too ignorant to know lies when told them OR they appreciate the lying in order to keep the republicans out. Not a single moral bone exists in the Democrat Party........they are all liars, criminals, and sociopaths at heart. That is not true of those on the right, most of whom are discerning people, not married to the Republican Party - and h**ed by members of the Republican Party for leaving the Party. Weird, huh?
It is beyond time to toss all political parties who run the nation out with the bathwater , and take back what is OUR right.......citizens should be making the calls - NOT POLITICAL PARTIES.
Tasine wrote:
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Oh, yes, I've noticed. The difference is that the Democrat Party OWNS its v**ers. Its v**ers are too ignorant to know lies when told them OR they appreciate the lying in order to keep the republicans out. Not a single moral bone exists in the Democrat Party........they are all liars, criminals, and sociopaths at heart. That is not true of those on the right, most of whom are discerning people, not married to the Republican Party - and h**ed by members of the Republican Party for leaving the Party. Weird, huh?
It is beyond time to toss all political parties who run the nation out with the bathwater , and take back what is OUR right.......citizens should be making the calls - NOT POLITICAL PARTIES.
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Tasine wrote:
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Oh, yes, I've noticed. The difference is that the Democrat Party OWNS its v**ers. Its v**ers are too ignorant to know lies when told them OR they appreciate the lying in order to keep the republicans out. Not a single moral bone exists in the Democrat Party........they are all liars, criminals, and sociopaths at heart. That is not true of those on the right, most of whom are discerning people, not married to the Republican Party - and h**ed by members of the Republican Party for leaving the Party. Weird, huh?
It is beyond time to toss all political parties who run the nation out with the bathwater , and take back what is OUR right.......citizens should be making the calls - NOT POLITICAL PARTIES.
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I agree with both your post on this... Don D.
Don G. Dinsdale wrote:
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I agree with both your post on this... Don D.
:thumbup: :D :D Appreciate your comments, Don.
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