How could God allow this to happen ?
Sep 12, 2015 16:46:09 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
Who does your "GOD" tell you to k**l?
No one. He does, however, allow me the right to defend myself and others.
Sep 12, 2015 16:53:04 #
Grugore wrote:
Like I said. I never claimed to be perfect. Everyone Christian fails God on a daily basis. That's because we are still sinners. There is also a huge difference between what the Bible teaches and what the Koran teaches. Islam is evil at it's core. It has no socially redeeming values.
I am concurring with jeffh****r that not ALL Muslims are dedicated to or endorse jihad.
Just as not every Christian is dedicated to Peace on Earth and loving ones enemies.
Sep 12, 2015 17:02:06 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
You better read that bible again fella! I'm pretty sure your old God buddy tells you k**l people for a whole bunch of silly reasons(75)!
You are mistaken.
Sep 12, 2015 17:10:33 #
Sep 12, 2015 17:57:58 #
Grugore wrote:
Love the sinner, condemn the sin, Grugore. You're a better man than me. I still h**e them. I can't help it. Does that make me a hypocrite? I think it simply makes me human. Is it really wrong to h**e such evil people? Not for my own sake, but for the destruction and misery they cause others. Is it wrong to rejoice when ones enemies are brought to destruction?
I watched several talks at university forums by a former Muslim who is now a Christian with degrees in medicine, philosophy, and theology. He explained in great detail, how empty was the heart and the lack of fulfillment in Islamic worship. He noted the many Muslims, especially the women, who have, and are, abandoning Islam and finding salvation in Christ.
Even so, yes, there are those hard-core Islamic Jihadists who are enemies of all that is decent and good, and must be destroyed.
Sep 12, 2015 18:05:34 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Love the sinner, condemn the sin, Grugore. br br... (show quote)
I don't h**e all muslims. Only those who delight in doing evil. God h**es them too, from what I've read of Scripture. I believe it would be OK to h**e those who God h**es.
Sep 12, 2015 18:14:50 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
I repeat:You better read that bible again fella! I'm pretty sure your old God buddy tells you k**l people for a whole bunch of silly reasons(75)!
Grugore, you are dealing with a reprobate mind that cannot possibly presume to be an authority on the Word of God. "read the bible again"? OK. Let's do that. Just remember, Text without context is pretext.
It is clear throughout the Bible, particularly the OT, that when a tribe, a culture, a people defy God's commandments and worship idols, erect altars to false gods, sacrifice their children in the fire, ens***e their own and others, execute the mentally ill, the r****ded, the lepers, and wage war on and plunder and rape their neighbors, they will invoke the wrath of God.
Every Hebrew priest, prophet and king had to deal with their people's fall from grace. For those who failed to heed the warnings, Justice was severe. And for those who took the warnings to heart and repented, the blessings were great.
The stories of Ahaz, Manasseh and Josiah told in 2 Kings and 2 Chronicles are probably the most famous examples.
Although Jesus did not mention the evil kings, He did expound on the one unforgivable sin for which Ahaz and Manasseh were guilty.
In the Valley of the son of Hinnom near Jerusalem is a site known as Gehenna. In those days, Gehenna was Jerusalem's trash dump. It was here that Manasseh built the golden idols upon which he had the children burned. At night, in the crimson light of the fires, the people danced, blew their horns and beat their drums to drown out the screams of the burning children.
He (Manasseh) sacrificed his children in the fire in the Valley of Ben Hinnom, practiced divination and witchcraft, sought omens, and consulted mediums and spiritists. He did much evil in the eyes of the Lord, arousing his anger.
2 Chronicles: 33
Those who accuse God of being a wrathful, murdering, violent monster are totally ignorant of Biblical t***hs and have no business pretending they do.
Sep 12, 2015 18:19:07 #
Grugore wrote:
I don't h**e all muslims. Only those who delight in doing evil. God h**es them too, from what I've read of Scripture. I believe it would be OK to h**e those who God h**es.
But vengeance is reserved for the Lord. You are commanded to love your enemies.
Sep 12, 2015 18:32:02 #
Singularity wrote:
But vengeance is reserved for the Lord. You are commanded to love your enemies.
But I am not commanded to let them k**l me, or others, in the name of their false God. And it is not vengeance I seek. It's justice.
Sep 12, 2015 18:33:02 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
murder (Exodus 21:12), kidnapping (Exodus 21:16), ... (show quote)
But only if one repents.
Sep 12, 2015 18:36:39 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
Like Hitler? He probably repented just before he died and now he's in heaven waiting for you to join him :oops: hahaha
Hitler committed suicide. He was defiant to the end, and probably insane. There was no repentance from him.
Sep 12, 2015 18:43:55 #
Grugore wrote:
"Millions of Muslims from around the world will converge on the holy city between September 21-26."
That would be a great time to nuke the bastards. I think that would really take the wind out of their Jihad. Imagine what it would mean to Christians if Jerusalem was nuked. I believe it wold have the same effect on Islam. It would be proof that they worship a false God, since he can't protect his "holy city".
That would be a great time to nuke the bastards. I think that would really take the wind out of their Jihad. Imagine what it would mean to Christians if Jerusalem was nuked. I believe it wold have the same effect on Islam. It would be proof that they worship a false God, since he can't protect his "holy city".
They worship the same god that Jews and Christians worship They just call him Allah rather than Yahweh
Sep 12, 2015 18:46:07 #
Sep 12, 2015 18:46:58 #
Nickolai wrote:
They worship the same god that Jews and Christians worship They just call him Allah rather than Yahweh
No. They do not. What a silly thing to say. Totally preposterous.
Sep 12, 2015 18:58:34 #
Jeffh****r wrote:
Idk but like you said, he was probably insane, so he meets the criteria :lol:
I see that you are not interested in having an honest discussion. Bye bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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