iFrank Loc: San Antonio

The woman has a greater responsibility when she gets pregnant but technology in this time and age to kill or abort children before they're born and being able to see the death in progress if they please is an act of murder. Yes I understand that they might be reasons for abortions, but that is not the topic that I'm stating. As in 2 Kings 23:10, the people would burn the children to die and pass through the fire to a god named molech. ( This post was started by someone else while I was gathering this information but I couldn't find it to respond ). There is a deeper meaning that is more revealing about why it was done. The groves / trees is where people would go to have sex, they would carve a "symbol" as in the male sex organ image on the upright trees. Ezekiel 16:17 states images of men = the phallus, referring to the asherah. This word is 6253 in the Hebrew language. Also in Dueteronomy 12:3, groves is interpreted asherah. In Isaiah 57:8 the word remembrance - 2146 is symbol as in the male organ according to my study material and that's according to Christian scholars, for the people would crave that lifestyle is here in this time and age. Example, going to places then have sex and conceive a baby. People in the past would burn the children because maybe they didn't know who the father was. I can see that the past if not studied carefully has lead to be repeated like it is today. Those children in the past like today's unborn are innocent and to be killed in the fire or torn from limb to limb in today's abortion mills is simply barbaric. God help us.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Is it the woman's fault is she miscarries...has she sinned?

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

No, it quite understandable that some women miscarriage. It unfortunate but it happens.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...so if a woman rejects a fetus...is that not miscarrying...?

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

If a woman's body miscarriages a fetus then it's ok, if a woman gets a coat hanger or goes to an abortion clinic and have that person removed from her body then it's not. But that is not what the real question is about, is it? You must be pro abortion. I'm glad that when you were born you weren't aborted.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...If a homosexual raped your 11 year old daughter...you would force her to carry the child to term?

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

Read the post. I have no time for scenes that are made up from your mind. Be polite and don't be difficult.

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

This is a post for believers in Christ, not for people who are twice dead!

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

In what way am I being impolite. I'm not swearing at you, calling you names, at best I'm being sarcastic, but since you pointed it out, aren't you being difficult? I may be a troubled person looking for answers and this is way you treat me? Counsel much?

...and further, you offered this tidbit of historical anecdotal significance i.e.: ".People in the past would burn the children because maybe they didn't know who the father was. I can see that the past if not studied carefully has lead to be repeated like it is today. Those children in the past like today's unborn are innocent and to be killed in the fire or torn from limb to limb in today's abortion mills is simply barbaric. God help us..."...so I'm playing along and that's impolite?

Isn't it a lot easier to set the world straight, when you hold all the cards? How does feel to not hold all the cards? How does it feel to not really have all the answers. My suggestion is that you go pray...and if that doesn't work it's not my fault. If I were in your shoes I would really start wondering why God isn't helping me, instead arguing with some clown on the internet.

In any event:

What if your son had sex with his crazy school teacher and she wanted an abortion, do you have the right to stop her because your son is a minor? Could she, in fact, force you to pay for the abortion?

And then finally:

Why do we force young women to have a child, force her to get a job or she can't keep her benefits, and she can't raise the child properly, so the child grows up in a world that doesn't want them, and then they get shot in back because they mouth off to a cop...and that's okay...because they were a bad person? Abortion now or abortion later?

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

One maybe and your running off at the mouth, have you taken your medicine because you imagination is off the chain.

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Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I repeat my original response you spineless twit, you can look any of these circumstances on the internet, so now I am going to be impolite because clearly only one side of this conversation is intelligent and I own it....

In what way am I being impolite. I'm not swearing at you, calling you names, at best I'm being sarcastic, but since you pointed it out, aren't you being difficult? I may be a troubled person looking for answers and this is way you treat me? Counsel much?

...and further, you offered this tidbit of historical anecdotal significance i.e.: ".People in the past would burn the children because maybe they didn't know who the father was. I can see that the past if not studied carefully has lead to be repeated like it is today. Those children in the past like today's unborn are innocent and to be killed in the fire or torn from limb to limb in today's abortion mills is simply barbaric. God help us..."...so I'm playing along and that's impolite?

Isn't it a lot easier to set the world straight, when you hold all the cards? How does feel to not hold all the cards? How does it feel to not really have all the answers. My suggestion is that you go pray...and if that doesn't work it's not my fault. If I were in your shoes I would really start wondering why God isn't helping me, instead arguing with some clown on the internet.

In any event:

What if your son had sex with his crazy school teacher and she wanted an abortion, do you have the right to stop her because your son is a minor? Could she, in fact, force you to pay for the abortion?

And then finally:

Why do we force young women to have a child, force her to get a job or she can't keep her benefits, and she can't raise the child properly, so the child grows up in a world that doesn't want them, and then they get shot in back because they mouth off to a cop...and that's okay...because they were a bad person? Abortion now or abortion later?

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

I guess you should've been aborted. Maybe the doc should give you lithium or maybe give you some chemotherapy.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Lithium is used to treat manic depression, none of my responses would indicate the need for Lithium...do you have any idea what chemotherapy is for...idiot.

Seems like it's more important to you than me...mommy must have dropped you on your head a few, since she didn't have the guts to use a coat hanger AS YOU SUGGESTED.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Here is a list Female Teachers having sex with their students


Abbie Jane Swogger
Abbie Jane Swogger, 34: Teacher’s aide at Highlands Senior High School in Harrison, Pa., was arrested Feb. 22, 2008, for renting a hotel room where police found beer, marijuana, an open condom wrapper and at least four teenage girls and boys, including several of her 15-year-old son’s friends. Though categorically denying rumors she was having sex with students from the school, Swogger was quoted as saying, “I was stupid, very stupid. I already know I was and I can understand you looking at me wrong. It’s the biggest mistake I ever made in my whole life.” Police allege Swogger “asked or encouraged” two 15-year-old runaway girls to have sex with her. According to a police papers, Swogger admitted to having sex with a 17-year-old boy and asked police, “How serious is that?” The one-time exotic dancer resigned Feb. 25, 2008. Swogger accepted a 3- to-6-year jail term that included a 36-year probation on May 26, 2009. “I’m sorry I was not the role model I should have been. I’m really sorry,” she told the judge.


Abigail Holloway
Abigail Holloway, 33 The former gym teacher at the Christian prep school, Kings Academy (The Morning Wood Academy LOL), in Sunnyvale, Calif., was arrested March 5, 2009, at St. Mary’s Academy in Englewood, Colorado, where she was working, on charges stemming from an alleged sexual relationship with a female student lasting from 2001 to 2005. The girl, now a student at Whitworth College in Spokane, Wash., told a school counselor about the relationship that had occurred in California beginning when she was 13. During that time, according to the girl, she and Holloway were intimate “over 100 times.” “We have a very special relationship. It is a gift from God,” states an alleged e-mail from Holloway to the girl in March 2003. “Not many people are going to understand that, but we know in our hearts that God made us for each other!” Holloway is fighting extradition.

Adrienne Laflamme
Adrianne Hockett: Accused of having sex with a 16-year-old special-needs student in a Houston apartment she rented for the get-togethers. The boy has testified the pair would “have sex, drink beer and smoke weed.”

Adrienne Laflamme, 60: Science teacher at the Brevard County Juvenile Detention Center in Cocoa, Fla., was arrested June 25, 2008, for having a four-week heated affair with an inmate student, 17, within days of his release. The boy’s mother said the teacher regularly picked him up from their home to have sex at her own residence. Laflamme had sex with the student at least 15 times, including one threesome with a 14-year-old boy. She has been charged with 15 counts of unlawful sex with minors and one count of filing a false police report.


Alison Mosbeck
Alison Mosbeck, 33: History teacher at Dueitt Middle School in the Spring, Texas, school district was arrested Oct. 26, 2007, for allegedly having intercourse at least three times with one of her students, a 14-year-old boy. The mother of one of the students’ friends saw text messages from Mosbeck on the student’s cellphone and alerted authorities.

Alison Peck
Alison Peck, 23: Former teacher at Greenfield High School in Greenfield, Mo., was charged May 22, 2009, in Green County with statuatory rape after convincing two friends to help her spend a night at a motel in Springfield with a 16-year-old boy who used to be her student. Peck had already been charged in Dade County on May 14 with having sexual relations with the boy at a park in that county sometime between January and March. On the day after receiving that citation, she arranged with friends to meet the boy at the Springfield motel. On May 17, she was charged with statuatory sodomy and statuatory rape because the boy told the detective that he had liaisons with Peck at her home in Mount Vernon. Judges have set bonds of $2,500 in Dade County, $10,000 in Lawrence County, and $200,000 in Greene County and Leo has been issued a no-contact order, told to stay 1,000 feet away from the boy’s home and school and to surrender her passport.



Allenna Ward
Allenna Ward, 24: Minister’s daughter from Laurens County, S.C., was a second-year teacher at Bell Street Middle School in Clinton, S.C., when she was fired Feb. 28, 2007, for allegedly having sex with at least five boys. Some of the purported victims, ages 14 and 15, were students at Ward’s school. Authorities say the married woman had sex with the boys not only on campus, but also at a motel, in a park and behind a restaurant. On Sept. 6, 2007, Ward pleaded guilty to six charges – three second-degree criminal sexual conduct with a minor and three lewd acts on a minor. “Today, I publicly admit my guilt and would like to apologize. I sincerely apologize for the effects of my actions,” she told the court. On Feb. 19, 2008, she was sentenced to six years in prison.


Amanda Athey
Amanda Athey, 27: Charged Aug. 8, 2007, in Huntersville, N.C. with three counts of indecent liberties with a female student and one count of sexual activity with a female student. The relationship came to light when the girl’s father became suspicious of the Hopewell High School English teacher’s friendship with his daughter. She had told the father she was married to a man named Cal but after her arrest, it came to light she lived with another woman named Callie.

Amber Jennings, 31: Though Jennings was initially charged with having sex with a 16-year-old, the counts against the Sturbridge, Mass., woman were reduced to a single charge of disseminating harmful materials to a minor. She reportedly admitted e-mailing naked photos of herself to a former student. She received no jail time, only two years of probation after pleading guilty in September 2005.



Amber Marshall
Amber Marshall, 23: Northwest Indiana woman allegedly had sexual contact, including intercourse, with several students at Hebron High School, and turned herself into authorities, telling police she knew what she did was illegal.

Amira Sa’Di, 30: Clayton County, Ga., math teacher at Mundy’s Mill High School was arrested and charged with sexual assault of a student in November 2005. She reportedly remarked she didn’t think her relationship was inappropriate based on her Internet research, learning Georgia’s age of consent is 16.



Amy Beck
Amy Beck, 33: Teacher at David Starr Jordan Middle School in Burbank, Calif., surrendered to police March 8, 2010, apparently overcome by guilt, according to authorities. She allegedly had a sexual relationship with one of her male students, who was 14 at the time, from March to September 2009. Beck was charged with five counts, including four counts of unlawful sex with a person under 16 and one count of oral copulation with a person under 16. She faces up a maximum sentence of up to seven years in state prison.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

Paraguayan 11-year-old gives birth after pregnancy sparked abortion debate

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/13/paraguay-11-year-old-gives-birth-abortion