V**ers say Obama needs Congress' ok for Iran Deal: 66% of likely v**ers say that although Obama has enough promised v**es from Senators that they would v**e for him in an attempt to...

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

66% of likely v**ers say that although Obama has enough promised v**es from Senators that they would v**e for him in an attempt to override a veto that the whole Congress should ok the "deal" as it is called to avoid Senate only approval. What we have seen this week is that the "Deal" is accepted although they have only 34% of Senators v****g with them. This has turned out to be the reverse of what was needed to approve that thing which is nothing but a treaty and requires approval not a few Senators who promise to go along with Obama.

The worst part of this one is that the Constitution calls for a 2/3 v**e by the Senate to approve a treaty so they started calling it a Deal which would require Congressional approval. As I understand it they thought that 51% in each house would be enough but there aren't enough v**es likely in either house to pass this a******n.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/iran/v**ers_say_obama_needs_congress_ok_for_iran_deal?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DailyNewsletter

badbobby Loc: texas

oldroy wrote:

66% of likely v**ers say that although Obama has e... (show quote)

they have enough democratic v**es to override the objections of the conservatists

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

badbobby wrote:

they have enough democratic v**es to override the objections of the conservatists

No v**e has been taken up to now. They just have 34 Dems who promise to v**e against an override when Obama has to do that. They are hoping they can forestall a v**e which they will lose since 60 v**es would do the trick. They want to show that no matter how Congress v**es they have the number needed to block an override of a veto by Obama. They have to v**e to force him to veto, IMO. Actually the Dems are trying to attain approval without a v**e. Pure politics is all that is involved.

skott Loc: Bama

oldroy wrote:

66% of likely v**ers say that although Obama has e... (show quote)

The problem is the law says differently.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

skott wrote:

The problem is the law says differently.

Please open up about the law you are talking about. Do you know about something I don't know from the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land? Please let me know what law you are talking about.

BTW, where have you been?

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

oldroy wrote:

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Well, it's kind of a moot point anyway. The other nations have made it clear that they will go ahead with the deal - regardless of what the US does. That includes China, Russia, France and Britain.

These other nations have publicly stated that they will NOT follow the US, should we repudiate the deal. So the only effect would be continued US sanctions, which is also moot, as most of the US business is done through foreign intermediaries - and the US businesses will not allow foreign nations to out compete them, when Iran starts buying "stuff" again.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

lpnmajor wrote:

Well, it's kind of a moot point anyway. The other ... (show quote)

US businesses who have been involved in the sanctions all along will get back to doing business even illegally? Of course, that would be illegal if the Congress doesn't accept this pile of Pelosi.

skott Loc: Bama

oldroy wrote:

Please open up about the law you are talking about. Do you know about something I don't know from the Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land? Please let me know what law you are talking about.

BTW, where have you been?

The law does not give the v**ers a say on treaties and or foriegn agreements. It is the president's and congress's job. We don't run the country by polls.
My wife got cancer. She seems to be winning this battle with both good science-based medicine and lots o prayers. So, I've been busy. Also, feels like I am talking to a couple of walls on here sometimes. No matter what the argument is and how wrong they are, they are just dug in.

skott Loc: Bama

lpnmajor wrote:

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I have actually personnally read the agreement. It does not ever give nukes to Iran. It also gets rid of all of their nuclear program that could be used to make weapons. It leaves them the part that allows them to make power and nuclear medicine, which my wife has just benifitted from. Why would we want to take that away from them?

Cool Breeze

oldroy wrote:

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Obama once again has given the Republican Obstructionists a 'black' eye! Let that be a lesson to you! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Cool Breeze

skott wrote:

The law does not give the v**ers a say on treaties and or foriegn agreements. It is the president's and congress's job. We don't run the country by polls.
My wife got cancer. She seems to be winning this battle with both good science-based medicine and lots o prayers. So, I've been busy. Also, feels like I am talking to a couple of walls on here sometimes. No matter what the argument is and how wrong they are, they are just dug in.

Using logic and common sense isn't going to convince these clowns! It's a waste of time!

CDM Loc: Florida

oldroy wrote:

66% of likely v**ers say that although Obama has e... (show quote)

Old; Not to be argumentative; but when has Barack Hussein Obama or his L*****t horde EVER, EVER exhibited concern for what the people think? Much less constitutional law?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

skott wrote:

The law does not give the v**ers a say on treaties and or foriegn agreements. It is the president's and congress's job. We don't run the country by polls.
My wife got cancer. She seems to be winning this battle with both good science-based medicine and lots o prayers. So, I've been busy. Also, feels like I am talking to a couple of walls on here sometimes. No matter what the argument is and how wrong they are, they are just dug in.

I always h**e to see news like you have about where you have been. My condolences to you and your wife.

The v**ers do have a say in approval of treaties in that they elect the Senators and the President. Now if we ever see this one brought up for a v**e in the Senate I wonder if they will get enough v**es (2/3) to approve it. As of now all they have is enough Senators promising not to v**e for an override of the sure as hell veto. The media and the Dems have been so seemingly happy that the v**e has been taken but it hasn't even been brought up for a v**e. We have to go through the process called for by the Constitution which involves Senate approval and then the veto, AND THEN THE V**E so many think has been taken. There is a process and it hasn't even started.

Yep, I am a wall when the Constitution is concerned because you folks haven't completely destroyed it yet.

Again, my sympathy to you and your wife on her problem.

Ricko Loc: Florida

Cool Breeze wrote:

Obama once again has given the Republican Obstructionists a 'black' eye! Let that be a lesson to you! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Coolbreeze-Not exactly !! Obama has given the country a black eye and I would surmise that includes you unless you are an i*****l a***n. Obama wants to coast and play golf for the next few months without having to make any tough calls. If this thing goes awry before the next e******n Obama will blame Kerry who is too stupid to know that he is the scapegoat. Life is glorious in the democrat c*****e c****e bubble!!! Good Luck America !!!

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

CDM wrote:

Old; Not to be argumentative; but when has Barack Hussein Obama or his L*****t horde EVER, EVER exhibited concern for what the people think? Much less constitutional law?

The answer to your question is NEVER, NEVER but Rasmussen wasn't asking that although the number of people who went along with the question was 66% so that is what I was riding with.